u.s. anti-doping agency offered landis a deal to implicate armstrong

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ALBUQUERQUE, New Mexico — "Floyd Landis claims the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency’s lead attorney approached his lawyer offering “the shortest suspension they’d ever given an athlete” if Landis provided information that implicated Lance Armstrong for doping.

At a news conference Thursday to preview his upcoming arbitration hearing, Landis said he made the Armstrong allegations public not because he planned to use it as evidence when testimony begins Monday, but to show the lengths USADA will go to in prosecuting athletes.

“It was offensive at best,” Landis said. “It speaks to the character of the prosecution""


i`m not the least bit surprised...more smear tactics...i`m waiting for word that sheryl crow is turning lance in for using more than one t.p. square(i`ve heard that he was an absolute robber-baron when it came to toilet paper:yup )...

why in the world would the "UNITED STATES" anti-doping agency be hot to bring down a man who is arguably the most accomplished athlete in u.s. cycling history? ...

the long arm of "la republique"?......

this is madness......this country is now driven by madness.....

any other american heroes we can tear down?...first, they don't permit stories of heroism to come out of iraq or afghanistan (and make every effort to squelch those that did come out), then they try to delegitimize arguably the top individual sports star of the past decade.....

it must be that this pathetic generation is so friggin' wrapped up in the notion of tearing down accomplishment, and "leveling the playing field"....p.c. at it's finest....

thankfully tiger woods is part black...that`s what is probably keeping him from being audited...
 

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Weasel, you make great sense. I often say that Tiger has to be the cleanest guy alive for no one to have published anything bad about him. Mitt Rooney was just asked in some interview if he had pre-marital sex! The guys been married for a thousand years to the same woman but that ain't good enough. Yet, if you look at We love to tear people down in this country. Rosie O'Donnell, Alec Baldwin, GW you are right I am sick of it.
 

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why in the world would the "UNITED STATES" anti-doping agency be hot to bring down a man who is arguably the most accomplished athlete in u.s. cycling history? ...
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Because most of the cycling community knows his accomplishments haven't been clean. I'd leave him alone at this point though. He's done such a great job not getting caught that he's earned his freedom.

I like your notion that just because someone wants to make things right, it means they are anti-American.
 

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Cyclists are against freedom.

Couldn't resist, Smurf. You crack me up every time you post that...

And, I agree...if Floyd Landis said it, it MUST be true...

:rolleyes:
 

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The best cyclist of all time was from your state, Chadman.

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Actually, credible rumors have it that Armstrong was intricately involved in the series of controlled demolitions at the WTC in September, 2001.

You heard it here first.

Sheryl Crow, at the time, had knowledge of these terrible actions and attempted to foil this evil inside job. Unfortunately when she came to find out about the plot, only hours before, the only possible remedy was to encircle several key support beams with ample quantities of hygienic tissue paper. It was at that point that she decided that it was too much to give up and was unwilling to make the ultimate sacrifice, so the devastating tragedy unfolded as what we now know as history.
 

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Because most of the cycling community knows his accomplishments haven't been clean. I'd leave him alone at this point though. He's done such a great job not getting caught that he's earned his freedom.

I like your notion that just because someone wants to make things right, it means they are anti-American.

"most of the cycling community"....lol

the guy has one fricking nut and chemo brain and they("the cycling community") can`t lay a glove on him short of bribery.....

btw....one lousy ball left.......and that`s still one more than lemond has...

a bitter little man
 
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And the guy also dumped his wife who stood by him throughout his recovery in exchange for the for the very same Sheryl Crow hippie bitch who you now mock. Having cancer doesn't make him a saint or mean he rode clean. I admire his strength to pull through the way he did. But he's basically a jerk (always has been) and most likely cheated. ...Then again, most of the top riders were cheating for several years. Like I said, they should probably leave him alone at this point. They never caught him all this time, so they need to admit defeat. I guess they felt like detectives with Landis - letting plea bargain in exchange for a bigger fish to fry. Sounds pretty pathetic on their part.

Not sure what your problem with Lemond is. He's an American champion who survived his own harrowing incident. Are you calling him a bitter little man or me?
 

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Sounds like you've been watching the peloton for a while, smurph. I tend to concur re armstrong being a jerky type...sorta comes through in his book "It's Not About The Bike." He admits that in his early years he wouldn't follow race tactics/advice from team managers, etc...he knew better...and had to learn that stuff the hard way...by losing.
 

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Yet, if you look at We love to tear people down in this country. Rosie O'Donnell, Alec Baldwin, GW you are right I am sick of it.

yep Stevie GW picks and chooses who should be torn down. Now if these two you mention were in that 28 percentile like Weasel he probably want to marry both of them.
 

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. Yet, if you look at We love to tear people down in this country. Rosie O'Donnell, Alec Baldwin, GW you are right I am sick of it.

spongy...yes,you...i just couldn`t compare a has been child abusing actor and an america hating,beat you over the head with my bull-dykeness slovenly "thing" that can neither control what goes into or out of the opening in the lower part of it`s head to one of america`s greatest sportsman,who just happens to have lousy taste in women(i.e. 1-ply crow)....


and i certainly wouldn`t take ar182 jr`s word on lance armstrong`s guilt or innocence....he who calls a guy that couldn`t carry armstrong`s jockstrap(with only one gonad in it...i believe crow got the other one in the break-up) across the street "the greatest american cyclist"....

the euro`s historically dominated cycling...lemond winning twice was considered very good...but an aberration....

then armstrong shatters lemond`s feats and also shatters the idea of european cycling dominance....

then landis wins and the euros are ready to cut their wrists(the french/italians/spanish)...

see,in france, its o.k. to riot, torture, burn cars, etc., just don't win the t.de.f. 7 times in a row, cause that hurts their pride....

since the moonbat species in our country is of the same ilk as the euros,voila...... the self-hatred....

when armstrong completed his tour de france feat,everyone forgot about lemond....and that`s why he`s such a bitter little pill....

7 years in a row.....and no evidence of wrongdoing...they should kiss armstrong`s ass for creating such interest in the sport...but,i wouldn`t hold my hand over a candle waiting for that apology...

there....tied up neatly with a bow....

btw...we`re in full on american bashing mode here...where are eddie and his sock puppet spy-the-web?
 
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How is preferring Greg Lemond over Armstrong considered America-bashing? He won 3 tours by the way, not 2 ...and last I checked he was also American. I'm simply not a fan of Armstrong. I think he's a jerk and he most likely cheated. ...How is Lemond being a "bitter pill"?

Landis got CAUGHT cheating. He's no champion.

..And how the hell would you know the similarities between an American 'moonbat' and a European one when you never leave your damn bomb shelter?

Oh well, this is a pretty ridiculous topic. I'm certainly not about to defend O'Donnell or Baldwin. I said my peice about Armstrong and Lemond and you've predictibly processed it into something apocolyptic. Everything ends up in the same garbage heap with you. No discussion, just paranoid name-calling and illogical overblown statements.

...Hey man, how's the terrorist school bus driver hunt going?
 

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How is preferring Greg Lemond over Armstrong considered America-bashing? He won 3 tours by the way, not 2 ...and last I checked he was also American. I'm simply not a fan of Armstrong. I think he's a jerk and he most likely cheated. ...How is Lemond being a "bitter pill"?

...Hey man, how's the terrorist school bus driver hunt going?

you "think" he most likely cheated?.....:SIB ..that`s mighty white of you,my liberal friend....

you guys have become overly sensitive....what name calling?...ar182 jr?....that`s no insult....

the generic "moonbat" comment?....sheesh...

c`mon....

btw...here`s an interesting read.....in regards to the pooh-poohing of every jihadi plot we circumvent.....


Fortress America's gate is open

May 13, 2007
MARK STEYN
""Most terrorists seem like bumbling losers if they're caught before the act: That's certainly true of the Fort Dix jihadists who took their terrorist training DVD to the local audio store to be copied. It was also true of the Islamists arrested in Toronto last year for plotting to behead the prime minister, one of whose cell members had a bride who wanted him to sign a prenup committing him to jihad. The Heathrow plotters arrested while planning to blow up U.S.-bound airliners included a Muslim convert who'd started out as the son of a British Conservative Party official with a P. G. Wodehouse double-barreled name and a sister who was a Victoria's Secret model and ex-wife of tennis champ Yanick Noah.
But then Mohammed Atta and the 9/11 gang would have seemed pretty funny if you'd run into them in that lap-dance club they went to before the big day where the girls remembered them only as very small tippers. Most terrorists are jokes until the bomb goes off.

So, when we're fortunate enough to catch them in advance, it's worth pausing to consider what they tell us about the broader threat we face. According to genius New York Times headline writers, "Religion Guided Three Held In Fort Dix Plot." You don't say. Any religion in particular?

Well, the trio were Muslims, but Albanian Muslims -- i.e., they weren't Arabs and didn't have names like Mohammed and Abdullah (though their accomplices did). Even if Amer- ica were minded to profile, it's harder to profile against chaps with names like "Shain Duka" (Fort Dix) or "Rich- ard Reid" (the shoebomber) or "Jer- maine Lindsay" (a July 7 Tube bomb- er) or "Muriel Degauque" (a Belgian lady who self-detonated in a suicide attack on U.S. forces in Iraq) or "Jack Roche" (an Australian arrested for plotting to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Canberra).

Second, the young Duka brothers are "radical Muslim" sons in a family of otherwise "moderate Muslim" oldsters. That, too, fits a pattern of de-assimilation, of young Western Muslims far more implacable and hostile than their parents and grandparents. The London bombers were British subjects born and bred, radicalized in the vacuum of contemporary multiculturalism. One of the Toronto plotters had a father-in-law who was the pharmacist at the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry base. The Princess Pats have done sterling work in Afghanistan, and pop supports their mission. But his daughter doesn't, and she named his grandchild after a Chechen terrorist killed by the Russians.

Third, what then radicalized so many Western Muslims? Answer: in many cases, the Balkans. When Yugoslavia collapsed 15 years ago, Jacques Poos told the Americans to butt out: "The hour of Europe has come!" he declared confidently. Poos was the foreign minister of Luxembourg, a country as big as your hot tub, but he chanced to be holding the European Union's rotating "presidency" at the time and, as it happened, the Americans were very happy to butt out. "We don't have a dog in this fight," said then-secretary of state, James Baker.

Well, the hour of Europe came and went, and a couple of hundred thousand corpses later the EU was only too happy for Americans to butt back in again. So NATO bombed Christian Serbs in defense of Albanian Muslims, and a fat lot of good it did if the Duka brothers are any indication.

In theory, Baker was right. But out there in the Balkans, if you're one of the dogs in the fight, great-power evenhandedness can seem pretty one-handed by the time you hear about it. Don't take my word for it. Here's Osama bin Laden: "The British are responsible for destroying the Caliphate system. They are the ones who created the Palestinian problem. They are the ones who created the Kashmiri problem. They are the ones who put the arms embargo on the Muslims of Bosnia so that 2 million Muslims were killed."

Whoa, hold up there: How come a list of imperial interventions wound up with a bit of non-imperial non-intervention? Because, for serious nations, even not taking sides is seen as, in effect, taking sides. What was the single biggest factor in the radicalization of British Muslims? Omar Sheikh, convicted in Karachi for the kidnapping and beheading of Daniel Pearl, is British -- a Westernized non-observant chess-playing pop-listening beer-drinking London School of Economics student, until he was fired up by the massacres of Bosnian Muslims. And, while Europe dithered as the mountain of corpses piled up, Saudi money poured in, transforming the relatively mild Balkan Islam into something far more virulent. Look at the change in Muslim architecture in the region over the last 15 years: They build Wahhabist mosques now. Unlike the State Department complaceniks, the Islamists understand there is no stability.

Tough, you say. So what? Washington still has no dog in these fights. It's time to hunker down in Fortress America. Which brings me to the fourth lesson: What fortress? The three Duka brothers were (if you'll forgive the expression) illegal immigrants. They're not meant to be here. Yet they graduated from a New Jersey high school and they operated two roofing companies and a pizzeria. Think of how often you have to produce your driver's license or Social Security number. But, five years after 9/11, this is still one of the easiest countries in the world in which to establish a functioning but fraudulent identity.

Consider, for example, the post-9/11 ritual of airline security. You have to produce government-issued picture ID to the TSA official. Does that make you feel safer? On that Tuesday morning in September, four of the killers got on board by using picture ID they'd acquired through the "undocumented worker" network in Falls Church, Va. Half the jurisdictions in the United States issue picture ID to people who shouldn't even be in the country, and they issue it as a matter of policy. The Fort Dix boys were pulled over for 19 traffic violations, but because they were in "sanctuary cities," any cop who suspected they were illegals was unable to report them to immigration authorities. Again, as a matter of policy.

"""""""""""""""""On one hand, America creates a vast federal security bureaucracy to prevent another 9/11. On the other hand, American politicians and bureaucrats create a parallel system of education and welfare and health care entitlements, main- taining and expanding a vast network of fraudulent identity that cor- rupts the integrity of almost all state databases. And though it played a part in the killing of 3,000 Americans, leaders of both parties insist nothing can be done to stop it. All we can do is give the Duka brothers "a fast track to citizenship."

The Iranians already are operating in South America's Tri-Border area. Is it the nothing-can-be-done crowd's assumption that the fellows who run armies of the "undocumented" from Mexico into America are just kindhearted human smugglers who'd have nothing to do with jihad even if the price was right? If you don't have borders, you won't have a nation -- and you may find "the jobs Americans won't do" covers a multitude of sins."""""""""""""" ?Mark Steyn 2007
 

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you "think" he most likely cheated?.....:SIB ..that`s mighty white of you,my liberal friend....
Same as Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, ...and things like OJ killing Nicole. Basic logic and peices of evidence point to the conclusion.

You never answered my questions.
 
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