u.s. athletes told to cool it at the olympics...

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NEW YORK ? American athletes have been warned not to wave the U.S. flag during their medal celebrations at this summer's Olympic Games in Athens, for fear of provoking crowd hostility and harming the country's already-battered public image.
The spectacle of victorious athletes grabbing a national flag and parading it around the stadium is a familiar part of international sporting competition, but U.S. Olympic officials have ordered their 550-strong team to exercise restraint and avoid any jingoistic behavior.


The plan is part of a charm offensive aimed at repairing the country's international reputation after the deepening crisis in Iraq and damaging revelations of the mistreatment of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. forces at the Abu Ghraib prison.
"American athletes find themselves in extraordinary circumstances in Athens in relation to the world as we know it right now," said Mike Moran, a veteran former spokesman for the United States Olympic Committee who has been retained as a consultant to advise athletes how to behave.
"Regardless of whether there is anti-American sentiment in Athens or not, the world watches Americans a lot now in terms of how they behave and our culture. What I am trying to do with the athletes and coaches is to suggest to them that they consider how the normal things they do at an event, including the Olympics, might be viewed as confrontational or insulting or cause embarrassment."
Four years ago at the Sydney Olympics, members of the victorious American 400-meter relay team were widely condemned for strutting with the U.S. flag after their gold medal presentation. American officials, mindful of the country's precarious standing in world opinion, are desperate to avoid any repeat.
"Unfortunately, using the flag as a prop or a piece of apparel or indulging in boasting behavior is becoming part of our society in sport because every night on TV we see our athletes ? professional, college or otherwise ? taunting their opponents and going face-to-face with each other," Mr. Moran said. "We are trying for 17 days to break that culture.
"What I am telling the athletes is, 'Don't run over and grab a flag and take it round the track with you.' It's not business as usual for American athletes. If a Kenyan or a Russian grabs their national flag and runs round the track or holds it high over their heads, it might not be viewed as confrontational. Where we are in the world right now, an American athlete doing that might be viewed in another manner."
Mr. Moran added that the behavior of British athletes could face similar scrutiny in Athens, though the British Olympic Association insists there are no plans to ban them from celebrating with the Union flag.
"It's up to every athlete how he or she wishes to celebrate their Olympic success, and there are no plans to issue any instructions," a spokesman for the association said. "We are confident that every athlete will celebrate in a responsible way."
The USOC's anxiety at overexuberant displays of jingoism is a far cry from scenes at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, where the American flag became the defining symbol of the Games.
A different environment awaits the American team in Athens, where officials are anxious to replace apple pie with humble pie.
Americans were booed at the World Athletics Championships in Paris last year largely because of Jon Drummond's histrionic protest at his disqualification from a heat of the 100 meters. Also, at an Olympic soccer qualifying match in Mexico earlier this year, the American team was subjected to sustained razzing by a section of the crowd, including chants of "Osama, Osama!"
"We're not the favorite kid in the world right now," conceded Bill Martin, the USOC's acting president. "We are sensitive not only to the security issue, but to jingoism in its raw sense. That is why we are sending people around to educate the athletes as to the appropriate behavior."


f-ck `em.....it`s o.k. for mexicans to chant osama....but,it`s not o.k. to wave the flag?.....

again i say....f-ck em....if the athletes can`t enjoy their victory because the world hates americans,then f-ck `em.....

if the athletes are in that much f-cking danger...if they can`t wave the flag.....can`t enjoy the games....then,don`t go....

if the world really hates us so much,let`s cut back on some of this aide while we`re at it....

if there`s real potential for danger(and i don`t for a minute believe that the greeks can control a rowdy Lady Footlocker much less something of the magnitude of the olympics.),then i say err on the side of safety....not only will our athletes be in jeopardy,but our being there will increase the chances of some terrorist activity...i ,for one,would hate to see another israeli wrestling team type incident mar the games....

and while we`re playing the bad guy again,these radical muslim f-cks get another pass...

these monsters ruin the world...and we get the bad rap...

i`m pretty sick of the tail wagging the dog...

but pull whatever funding comes out of the u.s. for the olympics(if it`s possible)..i`m pretty sure the i.o.c prompted this crap....they shouldn`t benefit if we pull out.......we can use the money here for schools or something meaningful....

f-ck `em...
 
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i agree shut the borders down, keep immigrants out, shut off aide to other countries. lets see how long it would take for the world to cry about that. One day. I'd give it 5 minutes in this forum. Someone would cry foul.

Its a no win situation for the U.S. period. We can do nothing right in other countries eyes. We either don't help them enough or they hate us when we do. I would just love to see economic impact that would happen if we just cut off all trade and everything for one day with anyone outside the U.S. The world markets would fall into a tailspin. Most would probably disagree with this but we effect so much that happens in the world.

Sad to say but I hope our athletes do not go to the Olympics with the way Greece is handling the situation we may have another Munich on our hands. It may be the Americans who would be the victims this time.
 

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....could very easily see another Munich with the state of things being the way they are in the middle east....

...I always found it ironic that there is always like 6 billion dollars in the budget for Israel, yet states always talk about budget problems and tax hikes or job cuts being the answer......

Here in Nebraska they are talking about closing two of the regional centers....yet where do you put all the mental cases that these places deal with on a day to day basis? Obviously you can't just turn them loose on the public and/or put them in some halfway house......

.....maybe if we close the centers then we should ship the patients over to Israel and watch something go down like we'd see in one of the Halloween movies.....just give them all hockey masks and call it Halloween XIX.....

.....doubt I'll ever see the day when we get some honest politicians elected that get back to basics, that start taking care of it's own people in thier own country....and quit worrying about the standard of living in some other SOVEREIGN country.......I guess the days of the no-nonsense politician are over....
 

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.....doubt I'll ever see the day when we get some honest politicians elected that get back to basics, that start taking care of it's own people in thier own country....and quit worrying about the standard of living in some other SOVEREIGN country.......I guess the days of the no-nonsense politician are over.... [/B]


dont ever think I will see the day when we can get some honest politicians elected that get back to basics and start letting us take care of ourselves instead of being babied by the government
 

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"Somehow, we still believe in one nation under God. We still believe that we are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We think we live in a great country-that"city on a hill." We love America, and put our hands over our hearts when "The Star Spangled Banner" is played. And it drives them crazy. It makes them angry, bitter, and belligerent..."
-Laura Ingraham - "Shut Up and Sing"


Before the war in Iraq, the war on terror crippled the terrorist infastructure...then we went to Iraq. Personally, I'm not opposed to it, but I do realize the other side's case. Regardless, many on the left claim they are "as American" as those on the right...what ever happened to patriotism then? Standing by your country. It's the first ammendment that protects half of these people from just saying what they want. Anyways, in regards to the Olympics...I don't know that it will be another Munich. Very hard to tell...If a major terrorist event happens, I mean it will piss the world off, as many countries take this much more serious than we do, due to the lack of professional sports leagues. (If you catch the SC segment on USA Basketball today, worth 5 mins.)
However, I disagree 110% that we should not wave the flag, etc. The olympics are a time of pride, representing ones country....if we cannot do that, then why should we even go?

Marco, understand your points on Israel. The worst part is anytime one brings this up, they come across as being anti-semetic.
 
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