U.S. Soldiers charged w/abuse of Iraqi POW's

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4 U.S. soldiers deny charges of abusing prisoners of war
They are accused of punching, kicking and breaking bones of Iraqis at a camp

by MATT KELLEY
WASHINGTON - The military has charged four U.S. soldiers with abusing prisoners of war in Iraq. The soldiers and their families deny the accusations.

The four military police from a Pennsylvania-based Army Reserve unit are accused of punching, kicking and breaking bones of prisoners at Camp Bucca, the largest U.S.-run POW camp in Iraq.

The soldiers, charged this month, are the first U.S. troops known to face charges of abusing prisoners during the Iraq conflict.

The military's investigation continues, said Lt. Cmdr. Nick Balice, a spokesman for U.S. Central Command. Balice confirmed four soldiers had been charged as part of that investigation but said he could not release their names.

The soldiers say their actions were in self-defense when Iraqi prisoners attacked them.

"A few of my MPs were assaulted by the enemy prisoners, and we had to use force to regain control, all justifiable," one of the accused, Staff Sgt. Scott McKenzie, e-mailed to relatives five days after the May 12 incident.

The four are not jailed but have been given restricted duties, separated from each other and assigned to a base in Kuwait, away from the rest of their unit. Military authorities told the four this month to quit talking about the case, relatives said.

Family members say they are worried about the stress on the four soldiers.

"If one of them commits suicide, if one of them gets killed, somebody has to answer for that," said Carol Graff, mother of accused Master Sgt. Lisa Girman.

The soldiers are awaiting an Article 32 hearing, a military proceeding where prosecutors lay out evidence of a crime and a commander decides whether to convene a court-martial. At least three other soldiers from the 320th Military Police Battalion also are being investigated, relatives said. The unit is based in Ashley, Pa., a suburb of Wilkes-Barre.

"I can't believe they're treating the soldiers this way," said Linda Edmondson, mother of accused Sgt. Shawna Edmondson. "All they did was go help transport prisoners, and they are charged with this."

Pentagon officials say American soldiers scrupulously follow international guidelines for humane treatment of detainees.

Some released Iraqi prisoners have complained of rough treatment such as being kept in tightly bound plastic handcuffs and blasted with loud music and strobe lights. The London-based human rights group Amnesty International said last month it has gathered evidence indicating the United States violated international law by subjecting Iraqi prisoners to "cruel, inhuman or degrading" conditions.

U.S. military authorities are investigating the death last month of an Iraqi prisoner at a camp run by U.S. Marines in south-central Iraq near Nasiriyah. British authorities are investigating the deaths of two prisoners under their control and separate allegations of torture and mistreatment of prisoners by British troops.

American authorities also are investigating whether Iraqis committed war crimes such as torturing and murdering captured members of the Army's 507th Maintenance Company, Pfc. Jessica Lynch's unit, which was ambushed in Nasiriyah in March.

The four accused members of the U.S. Army's 320th Military Police Battalion face up to five charges each of assault and mistreating prisoners. McKenzie, 37, and Girman, 35, also face charges of making false statements and obstruction of justice.

Edmondson, 24, is charged only with assault, mistreatment and dereliction of duty. Spc. Tim Canjar, 21, also is charged with making false statements.

The most serious charges, making false statements and obstruction of justice, will each carry a possible prison term of up to five years. Dereliction of duty and mistreating prisoners carry penalties of up to a year in prison, and assault carries a penalty of up to six months in jail.
 

gardenweasel

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sounds like

sounds like

these guys may end up as sacrificial lambs to the politically correct crowd....

it looks good around the world for us to throw a few of our own to the wolves in the name of fair treatment of the enemy...

these poor s.o.b.`s are just average guys like you and me from reserve units thrown into a bad situation.....like hellah...

our guys are over there getting picked off day by day by these pigs........and i`m sure these guys are just looking to cover their asses,do their duty and get the hell home....

if it was me,i`m watching my own back....and if prisoners get a little rough,i`m gonna make sure i do what i have to do to not jeopardize my own well being....if it means f-cking up a few enemy prisoners,so be it....

surely,these poor s.o.b`s don`t want to be there....get the hell off their backs.....
 

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I agree totally, gardenweasel....hard to believe anyone really wants to be there especially saying we lose 1-3 troops a day for liberating a bunch of ingrateful pricks.

Mr. Ass :moon:
 

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mr a

mr a

that`s without a doubt,the best internet handle i`ve seen on the net.....no frills.....lmao.....takes a tough man to carry that moniker...

of course,i`m a little biased....my handle at another site is sphincter:D ;)
 
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