US gaming probe rocks top banks

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The Sunday Times - Business
By: Jenny Davey
January 21, 2007


THE US Department of Justice has ordered the world?s biggest investment banks, accountants and law firms to hand over all e-mails, telephone records and papers connected with internet gaming firms as part of an investigation into illegal online gambling in America.

HSBC, Dresdner Kleinwort, Credit Suisse and Deutsche Bank are known to be among the banks that have been issued with subpoenas ? official requests for information ? as part of a worldwide hunt to build a case against those who benefited from illegal online gambling.

Britain has been the fundraising centre for many internet gambling companies, with a number of international operators listing their shares in London.

Fortunes were made by the founders of internet gaming stocks, including Party Gaming, 888.com and Betonsports.com, and advisers pocketed huge fees.

The Department of Justice first issued subpoenas in October, only days after George Bush sounded the death knell for America?s $6 billion (?3.2 billion) internet gambling industry by signing legislation banning all related transactions. But until now the investigation has been kept secret.

According to City sources, the subpoenas have continued to arrive over the past few weeks.

It is thought that some investors in online gambling companies, including Party Gaming and 888.com, have also been hit with requests for information.

One source said: ?To say the situation is sensitive is the understatement of the decade. The problem is, even if you know you have done nothing wrong, you have no powers of resistance.?

He added: ?You can quickly go from being a bystander to a target, so even if you are bomb- proof, you have to assume you are subject to hostility.?

The source went on: ?The Department of Justice has taken a shotgun, not a rifle approach in relation to lots of gaming companies and has just asked everyone to hand over all the information they have.?

The request could force banks and other advisers or former advisers to the gambling companies to hand over hundreds of thousands of e-mails and files to American investigators.

Another City source familiar with the circumstances said: ?There is no doubt at all that this situation is escalating. This has definitely got legs.?

Another source described it as one of the biggest ?fishing expeditions? ever undertaken by the Department of Justice.

Vast riches were made by the founders of internet gambling companies, including Party Gaming and 888.com. Party Gaming floated with a value of ?5 billion in the summer of 2005, propelling it straight into the FTSE 100 index ahead of British household names such as British Airways and ICI. Its four founder shareholders ? Anurag Dikshit, Vikrant Bhargava, Ruth Parasol and her husband, Russ DeLeon ? took out ?797m and valued their remaining shares at about ? 3.3 billion. Meanwhile, 888.com, which floated in September 2005 valued at ?590m, created another batch of dotcom millionaires, this time among the company?s Israeli founders. Avi and Aharon Shaked received more than ?10m from selling a quarter of their 70% stake.

The probe by the Department of Justice will spark outrage in Britain, coming so soon after the extradition of the so-called NatWest Three to America.

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FUK YOU BUSH..Fkkn cocksukers.ban horse racing and lotto ,atlantis city and vegas to muthafukers...we the people of this once great country have been getting fuked in the ass for 6 years now ,its a fkn disgrace and i acnt believe we have done nothing about it..whats next???..............btw catch the name of this guy in this story................................Its four founder shareholders ? Anurag Dikshit, Vikrant Bhargava, Ruth Parasol and her husband, Russ DeLeon ....DIKSHIT:mj07:
 

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Hey,

All the Bush backers on here!

This is your hero! Fawking loser instigates the biggest foreign policy blunder in the last 50 years, runs up a gigantic deficit and this is what he has his justice department doing? I thought there were terrorists hiding behind every door. How do your federales have time to chase bookies and save the world from Sports betting. This is the worst administration in our lifetime
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Rodger and Moe could you kindly post this stuff in the political thread because there are a few clowns like Saint who wont mind his own business and will get offended if you post something like this in the discussion thread. Thanks pals.
 

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Sponge,

Let's move it over there. I want to hear the responses from this idiot's backers. Sean Fagface Mc hannity will brainwash people into thinking he's a conservative hero. The guy is a disaster.
 

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Rodger and Moe could you kindly post this stuff in the political thread because there are a few clowns like Saint who wont mind his own business and will get offended if you post something like this in the discussion thread. Thanks pals.

I just farted and it stinks.

Blame bush :em38:

Boo-hoo, no more gambling. Get over it. Return to the people and things that were probably neglected from the habit.
 
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I just farted and it stinks.

Blame bush :em38:

Oh is this why you felt it was your business to police the thread? Gotcha another cluless naive gullible Bush fan. You people are priceless.
 

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Boo-hoo, no more gambling. Get over it. Return to the people and things that were probably neglected from the habit.

Certainly an interesting perspective from someone that has 3,542 posts on a sports gambling website.
 

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Certainly an interesting perspective from someone that has 3,542 posts on a sports gambling website.

Touche!

How do you think I know those things? I never said it didn't apply to me too :SIB I'm sure most everyone here would admit the same, or else they'd be lying to themselves.
 
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Oh is this why you felt it was your business to police the thread? Gotcha another cluless naive gullible Bush fan. You people are priceless.

Never said I was a bush fan, you chose to imply that.

Politically naive? Sure am, can't fault he fact that I'm 27. I can read all I want about the historical past but most knowledge on that front comes from experience.

Educationally naive? It's not even worth it to have to defend myself on that one :mj07:
 
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Saint,

No one is going to stop betting. Tony on the streetcorner gets the business now!
 

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Saint,

No one is going to stop betting. Tony on the streetcorner gets the business now!

I respectfully disagree. Sure, a lot of bettors will go with a local.

But there is also a contingent of players that are like myself, and never wanted to be bothered with having to meet a local and everything that it entails. I think it was yyz or scott atlanta that touched upon this recently.

I'm sure there will be ways around everything because there's too much money involved to stop it. I do believe the casual better (which I consider myself) will learn to live without it.
 

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I had a local for years then lost it, picked up Pinnacle last July.....now they are gone and look who is back in action... my local book (at this point I have two locals), nothing will stop this business. I have had no problems at all with either of my locals, most of my friends thought I was the crazy one for using an online book, I just like to have more options. Right now I'm looking for a third local, you would be surprised at the # of differences in spreads with locals. Good luck to all.
 

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The only problem with the locals is the limit on timing of your bets. 10:30 lines for college sucks.
 

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I don't put much action on NCAA games so this is not a factor. Both of my locals have web sites and the lines are usually up when I'm looking for them.
 

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The only problem with the locals is the limit on timing of your bets. 10:30 lines for college sucks.

Oh rodger that is so true. It evens the odds so much more when you can bet anytime you want. The key is getting a local who uses an online service.
 

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I don't put much action on NCAA games so this is not a factor. Both of my locals have web sites and the lines are usually up when I'm looking for them.

Mcvegas this will be the new crackdown. They shoved it down our throats about terrorism being the problem but they will go after this eventually with another bullshit reason. I have to find me one of those bookies that gives the lines out of the newspaper. I love those guys but they don't last very long.
 

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Not sure how they will crack down on them, I guess they will try to find a way if they want.
 
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