USC game is a joke

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dlvlsu said:
Look at LSU record against Notre dame!! lol Whipped your ass twice in same year Get you some boy!!


Why don't you get your facts straight BOY. You have never beaten us twice in one year... :mj07:

ND VS. LSU ND leads series 5-4

1998 ND wins 39-36
1997 ND wins 24-6
1997 ND loses 9-27
1986 ND loses 19-2
1985 ND loses 10-7
1984 ND wins 30-22
1981 ND wins 27-9
1971 ND loses 28-8
1970 ND wins 3-0

Nice try jackass
 

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Nice try dumb ass yes it did happen beat you at LSU then Played in Independence bowl!! I was at both games!!
 

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Are you this stupid???? Those are FACTS you have never beat us twice in one year. Where you so stoned you didn't know you lost the game :mj07: .

We have only played you twice in one season 1997. We won one and lost the other... You have got to be the biggest retard on the site.
 

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ok gotcha thanks for telling me that Seen your picks etc for awhile must be for loosers to huh Everybody has a right to there opinion bottom line is cash in the pocket. Not worried about who did what etc thanks for the fades keep it up!!
 

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just in case anyone cares....saragin has the sec ranked 4th as a conference below the big-10, acc and.............. the pac-10?

what?
oh the humanity?
the guy must be an idiot?
doesnt he know that the sec is the greatest and that the pac-10 sucks?

oh well he's wrong and the hillbillies from the sec are right, just ask em!
 

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Why is it that anybody who supports the SEC at this site can't come up with an argument supporting their opinion? All you see is.........

"SEC IS SUPERIOR"

"PAC IS WEAK"

"SEC BEATS EACH OTHER UP IN CONF. PLAY"

All one liners with nothing, i repeat NOTHING supporting their opinion.

Lets make a mythical argument up but on extreme levels.

What if the SEC scheduled all div. 2 schools and went undefeated in OOC. What would you learn about the SEC?

What if the SEC scheduled all BCS teams in OOC play and won all the games. What would you learn about the SEC?

Think about it.
 

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The SEC and the Big Ten do beat up on each other...In each of those conferences there are 3 or 4 solid teams...That doesn't hold true in any other conference maybe you could argue the ACC but not the Big 12, Pac 10 or the Big East...Those conferences are a joke bring em East and see how good they do
 
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I am sorry but your 2 posts are worthless. You just threw out your opinion. Big whoop. Everyone can have an opinion. An intelligent person states their opinion and then supports it. You didn't do that.

The MAC, Mt. West, and Sun Belt conferences are superior to the ACC top to bottom.

See how worthless that statement is? But what if that person says, I GUARANTEE IT! Does that add credibility? Now if someone makes that statement and explains why they feel that way, then you may have an argument.

If I say..........

"USC will beat Texas by 100 because the Big 12 sucks and Texas plays in the Big 12"

How does that sound? That is exactly how you come across.
 

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Yeah its my opinion, but its all hypothetical anyways how could I prove my point without having those teams within those conferences I'll get back to you after the bowls and then give you my hard evidence assuming the match ups are right...here is a quick example of teams beating up on each other OSU beats Mich but losses to Penn St...Penn St losses to Mich but beats OSU..this is really apparent in the SEC. LSU losses to Tenn...Gerogia beats Tenn but losses to Florida...Aburun beat Gerogia and Bama but losses to LSU...honestly I could go on and on within the SEC but you can't and won't realize that because your blinded by USC's winning streak because my "opinion" speaks nothing but truth
 
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gjn23 said:
just in case anyone cares....saragin has the sec ranked 4th as a conference below the big-10, acc and.............. the pac-10?

what?
oh the humanity?
the guy must be an idiot?
doesnt he know that the sec is the greatest and that the pac-10 sucks?

oh well he's wrong and the hillbillies from the sec are right, just ask em!

Scooter's "Strong Sagarin Plays" did go 0-4 last week! :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
 

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thom24ad said:
Yeah its my opinion, but its all hypothetical anyways how could I prove my point without having those teams within those conferences I'll get back to you after the bowls and then give you my hard evidence assuming the match ups are right...here is a quick example of teams beating up on each other OSU beats Mich but losses to Penn St...Penn St losses to Mich but beats OSU..this is really apparent in the SEC. LSU losses to Tenn...Gerogia beats Tenn but losses to Florida...Aburun beat Gerogia and Bama but losses to LSU...honestly I could go on and on within the SEC but you can't and won't realize that because your blinded by USC's winning streak because my "opinion" speaks nothing but truth

I said post something supporting your opinion. You stated your opinion without an ounce of support. To me, that is worthless. Second, why do you think TN, Georgia, LSU, FL and AUBURN are so great? Because the media tells you they are? Because they always start the season ranked? Why? YOU talked about them beating each other. Since they beat each other, that makes them and the SEC superior? How did they all do against BCS competition outside the conf.? That is a way you can tell how strong they are. What do you learn through conf. play? You only can compare them to OTHER SEC teams. How can you compare them to "non" SEC teams? Explain that! I don't understand your logic. I can do the exact same thing you did with NON BCS conferences. Does that make them superior to the SEC?
 
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listing those games is plenty support of teams beating up each other within the conference...your just not used to that reality in the lower conference of the Pac-10...and have you seen any of those SEC games...how could not say LSU Georgia and Auburn aren't good teams...wheres your support for that buddy...I know those teams are good by watching them every week, no media influence here...We both know preseason ranking don't mean shit look at Iowa and ND../ND wasn't ranked before the season but I consider them still a good team..I'll be able to compare the conference after this season bowls and then I bring you concrete evidence...when its all said done we'll tally up wins for each conference after the bowls and we'll see who the best conference is...I tell you one thing for sure it wont be the Pac-10
 
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thom24ad said:
listing those games is plenty support of teams beating up each other within the conference...

Why? Because you said so? :rolleyes:

and have you seen any of those SEC games...how could not say LSU Georgia and Auburn aren't good teams...wheres your support for that buddy

Is there any way for me to judge how good these "SEC" teams are through OOC? I mean, you are basing your opinion on these SEC teams only through SEC play. Sorry if I offend but that is STUPID! How can you possibly compare the SEC to any other conf. only through conf. play? THAT MAKES NO SENSE! So using your rational, I could use the same argument to support the MOUNTAIN WEST, MAC, SUN BELT! Just focus on conf. play. Right? :rolleyes:

You are doing that for the SEC. Only focusing and juding these SEC teams through conf. play. So how do you come to the conclusion the SEC CONF. PLAY is so tough? Because you said so? Because you seen it through your own eyes? :mj07:

when its all said done we'll tally up wins for each conference after the bowls and we'll see who the best conference is...

You do know the SEC is a 12 team conf. who gets more bowl bids than the Pac 10 who is a 10 team conf. I do know I can judge the strength of the pac 10 outside of conf. play. YOU CANNOT DO THE SAME WITH THE SEC! Oh wait you can. SEC has a losing record against BCS competition this year! :mj07: Explain that? Oh wait, SEC beats up on each other in conf. play and you seen it through your own eys, so we all must agree SEC is superior. Even though there is no evidence to support your opinion. :mj10:

It is just too damn easy debating with you SEC supporters. For so many years people agreed with your garbage the SEC is so vastly superior etc. But when someone steps up to the plate on the other side, NONE of you peeps have anything to back up your OPINION! I LOVE IT! :clap:
 
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You SEC faithful are truly pathological. What PROOF -- beyond bluster and assertion about the stratospheric supremacy of your conference -- can you bring to the table? Stats -- as any rational person knows -- are subjective. Wasn't UConn's D ranked in the top ten in the nation last time I checked?

I grew up in Virginia, which means: 1) I'm far from anti-South; and 2) I'm intimately familiar with the smell of bullshit like AU2001 and DLVLSU are serving up on this thread. They are merely a couple of dipshit peckerwoods. Actually, no, I take that back -- morons like this give dipshit peckerwoods a bad name.

Doubtless, Scott4USC (god bless his indomitable enthusiasm) can be a bit grating and predictable with his "analyses" of his beloved Trojans. But in his favor, explain to me two sets of data from this year:


Alabama vs Arkansas -- 24 - 13
Georgia vs Arkansas -- 23 - 20


USC vs Arkansas -- 70 - 17


Whom exactly, possessing half a brain and an ounce of objectivity, do you think you can actually convince that Alabama or Georgia would beat USC?

I happened to be at the Coliseum for the USC/Fresno State game. Far from AU2001's denigrating blather about FS, the Bulldogs in fact put on a clinic (at least in the first half) on high percentage/short gain passing offense. I assure everyone here -- they were no f*cking joke. The attack and execution were absolutely relentless and top notch.

Unlike the dim-witted haters here, many of the professional sports writers who were present at the game are arguing that Fresno State's performance proves that they are a top ten program -- and deserve the respect they have been fighting for rather heroically the last 7 or 8 years.

One would expect that you underdogs from down south would see a kindred spirit in Fresno State. Instead, you are so blinded by your inferiority complex and your need to hate that you unfairly diminish their achievement.
 

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archiedebunker said:
Whom exactly, possessing half a brain and an ounce of objectivity, do you think you can actually convince that Alabama or Georgia would beat USC?

Of course they could beat USC. All SEC fans think that. They see how tough their conf. is through their own eyes! Facts are often not enough for the delusional (SEC FANS)!

All teams USC beat have something wrong with them. USC always has it so easy. Don't forget that. That is why USC was supposed to lose each of their last 3 BCS bowl games.

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I happened to be at the Coliseum for the USC/Fresno State game. Far from AU2001's denigrating blather about FS, the Bulldogs in fact put on a clinic (at least in the first half) on high percentage/short gain passing offense. I assure everyone here -- they were no f*cking joke. The attack and execution were absolutely relentless and top notch.

Pat Hill is an excellent coach and had his team prepared to beat USC. What many people don't realize is Carroll made the right halftime adjustments like he always does. USC dominated for most of the 3q scoring 21 straight pts and the USC D dominating FSU offense. MOST CFB HC's can't adjust during the game. Most CFB teams would give up at that pt as USC was truly dominating. Pat Hill made the right adjustments. He changed his offense and stopped attacking what USC was taking away. That opened up some running lanes for his offense and they started having success. Major props to Pat Hill and his team for not panicking. It must go on record FSU was going against an injury depleted D. :)

I have no idea why Kansas St. doesn't go grab this guy. He is one of the best HC's in the country.
 

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Okay Scott, here's the million dollar question...who the best conference in college football?...and please support your answer
I'm all about the big ten but I do know when there is a better conference when I see it...obviously you lack such a judgement...cant wait to see your answer and "support"
 
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Okay Scott, here's the million dollar question...who the best conference in college football?...and please support your answer
I'm all about the big ten but I do know when there is a better conference when I see it...obviously you lack such a judgement...cant wait to see your answer and "support"

I am not going to spend much time researching so I'll just offer my "quick" opinion on the subject. If you disagree, then I'll bring out the ammo! :)

I have a lot of respect for the Big 10 for playing quality OOC. So I might have to put them #1.

I like the ACC and they also play quality OOC. Prob. put them #2.

#3 is tough betwen the Pac 10 and SEC. I have to give the nod to the Pac 10 because the average SOS for the Pac 10 is #28. Average SOS for SEC is #56. There isn't much of an argument to made for the SEC. Nobody here on MJ's has ever made one. Take a look at who Sagarin has rated in his top 30. Pac 10 has won 11 games against Sagarin top 30 teams. SEC has won 5 games against Sagarin top 30 teams. Remember, Pac 10 is only a 10 team conf. while SEC is 12 teams. :) Also look at the difference between home games played in the Pac 10 vs home games played in the SEC. :)

#4 would be the SEC but I don't think there is big separation from #3 and #4. But there really is no argument supporting the SEC being ranked higher than the Pac 10. At least I have not seen one and I could not come up with one myself. I would not say the Pac 10 is superior to the SEC but maybe slighly better based on evidence.

#5 is the Big 12 with huge separation from the other 4 conferences. This is a bad bad bad conf. Very bad. Last year the Big 12 was the 5th best conf. and we saw how that prepared OU for the BCS Title game. This year I feel the Big 12 is a lot worse than it was last year.

#6 Big East
 
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