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I was answering a question to TRUMP TIGHT. If you did not like my answer, you do not have to reply to it. You do not even have to open up the thread! I leave Sat. for New Orleans!

I replied to your post earlier in this thread and politely corrected the errors and explained where I disagree with you.

I agree that the Pac 10 could be the 5th strongest conf. this coming season. I predict the Pac 10 to finish between #3-#5. Who knows, its a long season and predicting conf. strengths is a crap shoot. Last year people felt the Big 12 would have been a top conf. and it clearly was the 5th strongest. Much easier to judge conf. strengths after the season and last year it was the ACC, SEC, Pac 10/Big 10, and Big 12. No doubt about it!
 

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1. Let me get the crayons out for you on this one: I have REPEATEDLY told you in at least 2 different posts, what these games are called, and you have REPEATEDLY failed to acknowledge it. You look at it like it's a one way street - it's NOT. These games are called- "HOME AT HOME SERIES" That means that each team plays "AT HOME" against said opponent, and then travels to the other teams home to reciprocate.

ALL OF THE TEAMS YOU LISTED ABOVE WILL GET THE OTHER TEAM AT THEIR HOME - IT IS NOT JUST THE PAC-10 TEAMS TRAVELING, AND NOT GETTING THEM BACK AT THEIR HOME - DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY IN BIG TIME DIV 1 FOOTBALL. There might be one team on that list that doesn't get a game back at their home because of a scheduling conflict OR a buy out - but I'd be very surprised to see it.

I agree with that! I completely understand how teams schedule. Often it is home and home or 2 for 1. Sometimes it is 1 and done like USC vs V-Tech. Not sure why you brought that up.


I never said OU played a poor SOS. I thought OU schedule was fine. Never commented on it. I only commented on how OU tried to buy out UCLA. Never said OU schedule was bad. NEVER! You are putting words into my mouth and trying to start an argument.

You CONSTANTLY twist the facts to fit into your little world. This is why people can't stand you. And like I said - I will not respond to any more of your crap again. Consider it done. Respond away or don't - I don't really care. I would however LOVE to meet you one day. I don't think you've ever had one of these conversations face to face with another living male - not the way that you speak on here. If we were standing in the same room - you wouldn't say the things you're saying on here now. Keep that in mind the next time you put something down in print

I do not understand what I said that pissed you off? I was not trying to start an argument. I was merely explaining to you why USC's goal is to win the Rose Bowl along with the other Pac 10 teams.? My explanation made sense. It is unfortunate my post pissed you off but I think you took my comments the wrong way. You also accused me of saying things or implying things that I never said or implied. That is why I do not understand why you are so angry?

I'll be in New Orleans Sat-Tues. and I already booked my flight and hotel for Orange Bowl. Maybe we can meet up when OU plays USC in the Orange Bowl. Wouldn't that be nice! I am not arguing with you or anyone, I am having a discussion. You should not be pissed at me. I did not insult you. Hopefully we can resolve the issue, if not, then good luck this college football season. Best of luck to your Sooners!
 
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Scott please STF up about OU not scheduling the rubbers

It makes absolutely no sense for OU to do so.

However, it certainly makes sense for USC to want to play OU.

How can this be?

Hmmmmm ........

Well .....

The only argument I can think of is SOS.


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Can you agree Scott that USC would want to schedule OU more than OU would want to schedule USC?

1. If yes. Why?

2. If no, then quit blaming it on OU and STF up
 

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Scott please STF up about OU not scheduling the rubbers
It makes absolutely no sense for OU to do so.
However, it certainly makes sense for USC to want to play OU.
How can this be?
Hmmmmm ........
Well .....
The only argument I can think of is SOS.

The BCS took out SOS! Might have to find another argument. It is well known that USC is a program who likes to play fierce OOC competition. That is why USC has the #1 SOS since 1990! So my question was why doesn't OU want to play? Is it because they want to take the easier road to a NC? Trumpt Tight answered it. I am not accusing of OU playing a weak schedule. USC vs OU would have been great for USC, OU and for all of College Football. It would not have been great for USC or OU chances in getting into the NC game. The question is, where do you put more weight on?


Can you agree Scott that USC would want to schedule OU more than OU would want to schedule USC?

1. If yes. Why?

2. If no, then quit blaming it on OU and STF up

Yes I can agree to that because USC was the team that asked to play the game!!

That was my question and Trump Tight gave me my answer. He along with OU would rather play an "easier" schedule to get into the National Championship game. (playing USC would make it a harder schedule and I am not accusing OU's current schedule being weak or strong or anything)

I think differently and I like to play tough opponents and I loved it when USC played the #1 SOS 2 years ago. USC ended up losing 2 games that year by 7pts and 3pts but who cares. Would I rather have played weak 1a opponents and get to the title game? NO. It is just a different type of philosophies. I used OU wanting to get UCLA off the schedule as an example of OU "not" wanting their schedule too tough. UCLA was not even a team to be feared last year and OU even had UCLA coming to Norman. I thought OU schedule last year was very formidable and the BCS ranked it very high! Asking a team to play another year because you think your schedule is too tough is absurd to me. Just my opinion.

My question is, as a Trojan fan I would love to see USC play OU this year in the season. If USC loses it could cost USC a chance at the title game but I DO NOT CARE! It seems like OU fans do care. THAT IS WHERE I ANSWER TRUMP TIGHTS ORIGINAL QUESTION AS TO WHY USC's GOAL IS TO WIN THE ROSE BOWL!

There is a difference in philosophies. Trump Tight asked why does USC or the Pac 10 say their goal is to win the Rose Bowl. Well when you go and schedule these elite teams as a "conf." you will have many teams in your "conf." come into conf. play already with 1-2 losses.

I do not understand why posters here get offended by this. I am not making up anything. I have presented my opinion and I backed it up and explained it with factual data supporting my opinion/philosophy. You agree? Did I make up anything in this post?

Here is a quote to look at by Tump Tight who is an OU fan.

You're damn right I want OU to do what ever they have to do at all costs to get to the National Championship game - THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME - THE RUNNER-UP BOWL DOESN'T MEAN CHIT! IT SUCKS TO PLAY FOR SECOND PLACE -

Now i do NOT share the same feelings. I do NOT want USC (team I root for) to do whatever they have to at all costs to get to the National Championship game. I along with majority of USC fans want our program to go out and try and schedule the best. It shows that USC has done this since USC has played the #1 SOS since 1990!!! Now do you understand? I was bummed when OU, Miami, and Michigan all declined to play USC. USC did not need to play those teams to bolster their SOS because SOS is not calculated in the BCS anymore. USC would be better off playing 4 weak 1a opponents and going undefeated!

Is Trump Tights opinion wrong? NO. Is mine? NO. It is a difference in philosophies and this helps EXPLAIN why the Pac 10 might not have so many National Championships in the last 15+ years. 9 of the 10 Pac 10 teams have played a top 15 SOS in the country since 1990! That might explain why so few teams from the Pac 10 go undefeated which is the #1 criteria in making it to the NC game. In addition to the BCS screwing the Pac 10 multiple times. (not accusing it of cheating)

I think I have laid it out very nice and easy to read. If you have any questions, I gladly will answer them. If you agree or disagree with me, that is fine with me. This post was not a who's philosophy is right or wrong, it is a post explaining both philosophies on how to do things. Understand? NOBODY should be offended by this post and I did not insult anybody.

*If you do not like what I posted or are not interested, there are 50+ threads to look at on the front page. This is only 1 of 50 threads in the CF Forum.
 
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Actually Scott, I was the one whom started this thread so if you cant say something that makes any sense then please feel free to not contribute!


No you did not correct my errors, you instead threw out a bunch of unsubstantiated information that is biased toward your beliefs.

*If you do not like what I posted or are not interested, there are 50+ threads to look at on the front page. This is only 1 of 50 threads in the CF Forum

If the above quote is your way to try to appease Jack when you continue to make irrational rants then I don't think it's going to work. The reason I don't think it will work is because of the other 50 posts you have contaminated about 95% of them with either comments about USC, PAC 10, SOS, SEC playing no one, therefore no matter what thread anyone opens they are going to have to deal with your garbage. For example someone posted earlier this week that Georgia had lost a RB and all the comments in the thread pertained to that issue but then you enter the thread and contaminate the thread with comments about USC! Why would you do that when this was thread about Georgia football? If you really want to solve the bitterness that is engulfing you then you should either: 1) follow the theme ofthe thread, leave out comments about USC or the PAC 10 unless that thread has anything to do about them, 2) If you want to post about USC and the information is useful and not rah-rah then start a thread, 3) if you want to start a thread and cheer-lead for the Pac10 then either start the thread in the category "Dumpster" or do a google search for a USC fan board!
 

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Ok, you've answered YES to my question. You claim "not due to SOS" and "the BCS took it out" then turn around and talk about easier schedules. You make no sense and all you do is ramble and babble (as usual) about the same ole stuff. You are a certifiable broken record with broken logic.

Keep shooting for the Rose Bowl and your rubbers will make it 3 out of 4 years more than likely. Every year except when it is the NC game.
 

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For example someone posted earlier this week that Georgia had lost a RB and all the comments in the thread pertained to that issue but then you enter the thread and contaminate the thread with comments about USC! Why would you do that when this was thread about Georgia football?
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Here is the link to the UGA thread you are referring too MASTER CAPPER! Lumpkin (UGA) possibly out for season

I have exactly one post in that thread. Here it is below.
Scott4USC post below.....
What a bummer for Georgia. The good news is it is at a position where young kids can step up. As a young inexperienced player, the running back position is one of the easiest positions to be effective in college football. Many high school stars can start right away and be effective at the RB position. UGA fans just gotta hope these young replacements hold onto the ball.

UGA is fortunate enough to have an experienced OL and QB. Therefore these new RB's won't be counted on too much for picking up the blitzes.

UGA should be fine IMO especially the way Richt recruits! Good luck to UGA this season and hopefully no more serious practice injuries!

Please enlighten me where I talk about USC, Pac 10, etc??? Next time you accuse me of something please get your facts straight Master Capper! I also do not need any advice from you, especially when you make false accusations towards me! You need to stop worrying about me and focus on COLLEGE FOOTBALL MATERIAL! I do not need to be part of a soap opera with you!


Actually Scott, I was the one whom started this thread so if you cant say something that makes any sense then please feel free to not contribute!

I guess you could tell me exactly what I said that didn't make any sense. Should I take your word for it like you accused me of contaminating the UGA RB thread?

No you did not correct my errors, you instead threw out a bunch of unsubstantiated information that is biased toward your beliefs.

Yes I did, read my post again that I replied to you in page 1 of this thread.

If the above quote is your way to try to appease Jack when you continue to make irrational rants then I don't think it's going to work. The reason I don't think it will work is because of the other 50 posts you have contaminated about 95% of them with either comments about USC, PAC 10, SOS, SEC playing no one, therefore no matter what thread anyone opens they are going to have to deal with your garbage.

Too bad you couldn't find a legit example. Are you going to continue to make false accusations towards me? Or are you going to talk about COLLEGE FOOTBALL?

If you really want to solve the bitterness that is engulfing you then you should either: 1) follow the theme ofthe thread

TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE! This was a USC PREVIEW thread and in page 1 of this thread YOU (MASTER CAPPER) posted about SEC and Pac 10. TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELF! I along with everyone else in this thread talked about USC and then BBK posted about what an OU player talked about USC and then I posted that OU should focus on winning their conf. and getting to title game. Then you chimed in and talked about SEC vs Pac 10 in a long post. Take your own advice Master Capper!

Have a nice day Master Capper!
 

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Scott,

While I may have been wrong about the Georgia thread and I should of looked at which thread you injected your partisan USC and Pac 10 illogical rants which by now have become a everyday occurrence and have made me tired of your same comments over and over and perhaps that led to my error! Please in the future create your own threads to harass, heckle and harangue others about the PAC 10 and USC, football season is approaching and you will not change my mind or others here about the PAC 10. My opinion still stands that they are the 5th best league and not nearly as good as the four above them and my opinion seems to be in the majority of the rest of the country. In the future please keep your comments and suggestions in your own threads then I will not have to wade through all of the same bullshit each time I want to see what a solid capper such as Kdogg, Avalanche or Trumptight have to say! I don't think that should create a problem for you, please feel free to post as many inflammatory threads that you want and I can promise you that I will not intervene. It was fun playing with you during the summer but now it's time for real cappers to get to work to make our jack!
 

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Avalanche said:
. . . You claim "not due to SOS" and "the BCS took it out" then turn around and talk about easier schedules.



Point of information: Avalanche - During the time that usc approached OU to play them - Strength of Schedule was still a factor in the BCS formula. That formula was changed less than 2 months ago. ;)
 

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Hasnt this guy been banned already god almighty give it a rest; I have never seen such a loser that ould spend this much time on replies; get a life lucas it truly is sad
 

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Well, I haven't been on here since college BBall and I can see nothing has changed. Scott is still posting his fan rants on a site that is supposed to help people win money. MJ, I hope you do what you need to do to stop this BS, because I hope to continue to see good cappers like MC and others do their thing.
 

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Scott4USC what do you have to say abou trump tight's point? At the time USC wanted to schedule a real team like Oklahoma BCS SOS --WAS-- a factor. You have NO argument against this. Open mouth, insert foot (or Pete Carrol in your case).

Scott, can you go into hibernation please for like 10 years. Thanks in advance.
 

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Point of information: Avalanche - During the time that usc approached OU to play them - Strength of Schedule was still a factor in the BCS formula. That formula was changed less than 2 months ago.

Yes you are right and I made the mistake. I forgot the BCS changed its rules after USC approached OU. You were right and I was wrong. Thanks for correcting me.

Skipper

What is it about this thread that irritates you? It is 1 thread of 50 on madjacks. Just curious what was said in this thread that irritates you. Remember, on the front page it says
"Flying Pigskins Forum (NCAA)
NCAA Football Picks and Discussions."

If you do not like what is being talked about inside this thread, there are 49 other threads to choose from to participate in. You also could try posting a new thread of your own as well! Not sure what you accomplished by complaining about this thread where COLLEGE FOOTBALL is being discussed.

Master Capper

I guess asking for an apology for falsely accusing me of something that I did not do is too much to ask.
 
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Scott,

You are just arguing for the sake of arguing. I am not going to respond after this because I am not going to argue with you. I have better things to do.

Your biggest problem is that no one will take you seriously if you keep this up. Sometimes in life you just have to say that you need to change your ways, take a hint!!

GL2U though in your gaming efforts!!
 

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Scott,


No worries for me, I asked you to cease posting in any threads that I start and asked you to please start your own but as I told Jack earlier in the day that I would be amazed if you stopped! I guess I was right on the money and you do not have the restraint to cease and go on your way! What you fail to realize is that no one here gives a rats ass about allegations that you throw out about USC, PAC 10, SEC or any other of your numerous non-gambling subjects! There are way too many good handicappers that use this board to actually make money during the college season and trade off and educate other cappers on facts, trends, etc...that pertain to gambling, they do not havethe energy or the time to wade through the horse-shit that you pollute the threads with each day! Skipper, hit the nail on the head, all you set out to do is argue for the sake of arguing, you should take the logic he gave you and maybe in the long run you could actually contribute! At this point Jack has told me that he will be removing your post from anyones threads that does not want your garbage polluting the thread!
 

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Definition of a Hypocrite

: a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he does not hold.


YOU JUST POSTED.....
What you fail to realize is that no one here gives a rats ass about allegations that you throw out about USC, PAC 10, SEC or any other of your numerous non-gambling subjects! There are way too many good handicappers that use this board to actually make money during the college season and trade off and educate other cappers on facts, trends, etc...that pertain to gambling, they do not havethe energy or the time to wade through the horse-shit that you pollute the threads with each day!

ON THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS SAME THREAD YOU POSTED.......

You can sit there and talk about how tough UTEP is, or Northern Arizona, or New Mexico State, or Indiana, or Idaho, or San Diego State, or Colorado, or Northwestern, or Illinois, or Virginia Tech the PAC 10 plays; but the actual FACTS of the matter are completely known while you say those are tougher than the SEC plays - looking at PART OF THE PICTURE when the WHOLE PICTURE IS COMPLETELY KNOWN.

2003-2004 PAC 10 Official Final BCS Strengths of Schedules (LINK provided at the beginning of this Post.) shows that IN FACT, the PAC 10 had 2 of the toughest Top 24 Strength of Schedules, while the SEC had 7 of the toughest Top 22 Strength of Schedules in the nation.

LSU was just one of 6 SEC teams with a tougher Strength of Schedule IN FACT than Southern Cal at SOS # 13 last year for LSU, which is why the SEC LSU played in the National Championship Game and why of course Southern Cal with SOS worse than 6 of the SEC teams did NOT as we all recall your Southern Cal opponents on your ENTIRE SCHEDULE IN FACT : # 76 Brigham Young 4-8, # 50 Hawaii, # 35 Berkeley who you LOST to, # 69 Arizona State 4-7, # 67 Stanford 4-7, # 47 Notre Dame 5-7, # 51 Washington without a winning record EITHER, # 88 Arizona 2-10, # 59 UCLA also with a LOSING RECORD, and # 31 Oregon State. And, you did NOT even play # 37 Oregon.

The ENTIRE PAC 10 was NOT RANKED with but 2 teams of the ENTIRE PAC 10 CONFERENCE ranked in the Top 30 of the Final Official BCS Rankings (LINK PROVIDED IN THIS POST AT THE END.), while the SEC had by DIRECT COMPARISON 7 of the Top 27 Teams in the Final Official BCS Rankings.

LINK AT END OF THIS POST :

2 of the Top 30 Final Official NCAA BCS Rankings Teams 2003-2004 PAC 10
7 of the Top 27 Final Official NCAA BCS Rankings Teams 2003-2004 SEC

FACTOID, according to THE Authority we ALL AGREED would DETERMINE this FACTOID - the BCS we ALL play for.

Southern Cal played 3 games the entire season against Top 30 teams in the Final Official BCS Rankings and you LOST a game. How did that make you BCS # 1 ? It did NOT; that is how it did ? NOT. LSU is # 1 in the Official NCAA BCS.

Try to put any SPIN on this you want, but the bottom line is that a schedule of whom it is you play in a season are ALL THE GAMES and are the teams IN FACT that you DO PLAY against. You just wish you could CHANGE THE SUBJECT to some subpart of that STINKY SCHEDULE Southern Cal played last year OR that STINKY SCHEDULE Southern Cal PLAYS YET AGAIN THIS SEASON.

In our conference, we have a Championship Game which we ALONE STARTED in college football here in the SEC, and that is a huge push for our TOP TEAM ? such as how LSU jumped past Southern Cal IN FACT because of the STINKY STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE Southern Cal played preventing it from EVEN BEING IN THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

It is ALSO how Oklahoma was in the BCS National Championship Game and NOT Southern Cal TOO; for they TOO played a tougher SOS than Southern Cal.

As we ALL RECALL completely.

And, you know it.

Now, this year, Southern Cal plays a season of # 64 Strength of Schedule according to THESE WebPages where you post this post right here where you are :

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2004/sos/index.htm

Who gives a crap about out of conference schedules (Like Southern Cal?s LAST YEAR or THIS YEAR are diddle-e-squat when they are NOT.), when IN CONFERENCE, you had IN FACT :

# 88 Arizona
# 69 Arizona State
# 67 Stanford
# 59 UCLA
# 51 Washington
# 37 Oregon
# 35 Berkeley
# 31 Oregon State

Your whole ENTIRE CONFERENCE SUCKED IN FACT. Not to mention Southern Cal?s out of conference slate of :

# 76 Brigham Young
# 50 Hawaii
# 47 Notre Dame

This is called a schedule for an ENTIRE SEASON and any spin you dream up will STILL LEAVE YOU ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN because of your STINKY STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE of THESE OPPONENTS of Southern Cal IN FACT.

Southern Cal played a lousy Strength of Schedule last season in total ? not some crap about the PAC 10 plays harder SOS than the SEC does out of conference ? just as Southern Cal is doing AGAIN NOW THIS UP-COMING SEASON.

While the SEC played IN FACT 7 of the Top 22 Strength of Schedules including out of conference and IN CONFERENCE according to the Final Official BCS SOS (YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SCHEDULE, AND NOT PART THEREOF ? ) and 6 SEC teams of which were IN FACT tougher schedules than Southern Cal's IN FACT was, the PAC 10 played 2 of the Top 24 Strength of Schedules by comparison.


2 of the Top 24 Strength of Schedules in Final BCS SOS Rankings PAC 10
7 of the Top 22 Strength of Schedules in Final BCS SOS Rankings SEC

FACTOID.

According to THE Authority on this TOPIC too - NOT YOU saying "The PAC 10 plays tougher out of conference schedules than The SEC does." PAC 10 SOS find IN FACT 6 SEC teams HARDER than Southern Cal's LAST YEAR and now this year

ALL 12 SEC TEAMS HAVE A TOUGHER SOS THAN SOUTHERN CAL IN FACT HAS 2004.

The ISSUE remains SOUTHERN CAL?S LOUSY # 64 Strength of Schedule NOW YET AGAIN THIS UPCOMING YEAR ? not that the SEC had IN FACT 7 of the Top 22 SOS last year while the PAC 10 had but 2 of the Top 24 SOS last year by direct comparison IN FACT.

Thank you for posting an ENTIRE THREAD ABOUT THIS throughout the summer while I worked, so that I could NOW reply to IT about the sorry SOS of Southern Cal LAST YEAR AND NOW AGAIN THIS YEAR.

EVERY YEAR because the PAC 10 SUCKS compared to the SEC, and YOU and EVERYONE ELSE with p-jealousy about The SEC, knows it.

You bring ALL THE WRONG ATTENTION TO SOUTHERN CAL trying to paint some FALSE IMPRESSION that the PAC 10 plays tougher SOS than the SEC as you did IN THAT SUBJECT POST YESTERDAY while I worked. The actual OFFICIAL NCAA BCS STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE RANKINGS (Link provided in this post at the beginning of this post.) are COMPLETELY KNOWN TO ALL.

Southern Cal can make NO CLAIM to being # 1 this up-coming year while you play but 1 Top 25 team, and it Berkeley who BEAT YOU LAST YEAR.


The SEC is the TOP CONFERENCE and NOT JUST because LSU is # 1 Official NCAA BCS National Champions, but because there were 7 SEC teams who played in fact according to the BCS the Top 22 Strength of Schedules while the PAC 10 had 2 of the top 24 SOS (LINK at begining of this post.) AND because the SEC had IN FACT 7 of the Top 27 in the Final Official NCAA BCS Rankings while the PAC 10 had but 2 of the Top 30.

Now, tell me AGAIN how Southern Cal is NOT PLAYING A STINKY STRENGTH of SCHEDULE for the 2nd YEAR IN A ROW NOW THIS YEAR ?

I MISSED THAT ?

http://www.geocities.com/rtell/bcsc.html

This thread was titled USC PREVIEW, and everybody was talking about USC, and then YOU brought up that long post about SEC vs Pac 10!

*Maybe you should concentrate on talking about college football and stop worrying so much about me!
 
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