USC? The dynasty?
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Thought I would just fill you in on the things we talk about in the real world, not usc-fantasyland.
A number of polling organizations also provide a final ranking of Division I-A football teams at the end of each season. Below is a year-by-year history of Division I-A football national champions as determined by the BCS championship game and these polling organizations. More information on national poll rankings is available in the Division I-A section of the NCAA Divison I-A/I-AA Football Records Book.
2006
Florida: BCS
2005
Texas: AP, BCS, Berryman, Billingsley, Colley Matrix, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FW, Massey, Matthews, NFF, Sagarin (ELO-Chess), Seattle Times, Sporting News, USA/ESPN, Wolfe
Southern California: Harris
2004
Southern California : AP, BCS, Berryman, Billingsley, Colley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News, FW, Massey, Matthews, NFF, NY Times, Sagarin, Seattle Times, Sporting News, USA/ESPN, Wolfe
2003
LSU: BCS, Billingsley, Colley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, Massey, NFF, Sagarin, Seattle Times, USA/ESPN
Oklahoma: Berryman
Southern California: AP, Eck, Matthews, NY Times
2002
Ohio State: AP, BCS, Berryman, Billingsley, Colley, DeVold, Eck, FACT, FB News, FW, Massey, NFF, NY Times, Seattle Times, Sporting News, USA/ESPN, Wolfe
Southern California: Dunkel, Matthews, Sagarin
It's a good debate. They may have strict academic requirements but they get "freebies" where they can slide a certain number by. Carolina was the same way...and no, I'm not comparing Stanford's academics to UNCs, but they are similar in that they won't bend academic standards for their athletes.
I still think app st is a bigger upset. The players they are able to recruit isn't comparable to a stanford. Boone, NC vs. palo alto, ca. :142smilie
USC HAS BEEN (read those words) THE BEST TEAM SINCE 2002????? wHAT HAVE THEY GOT TO SHOW FOR IT? Best team that played nobody MAYBE!!! Life is good!!! 
Got to love being right!! 1 national Championship for Pac 10 2 for SEC since 2002
Got to love being right!! 1 national Championship for Pac 10 2 for SEC since 2002
you're an idiot. it is that bad. and its not black white red or whatever its just bad. why do girls at sorority rush have to be escorted by security going house to house. your school is in a chit neighborhood. thats just the facts. i'm sure the tough guys scamper when you rolll through the hood, but for us regular joes i wouldn't walk through there at night on a non game night with people around. sorry for your loss. not really
NOW you tell me...:mj07:
Yes, it was quite quiet during and after that game, wasn't it? I'd have found a cold beer or two for you had I know you were in town for the game. I've had season tickets for years--sit on the 45 yrd line half way up the West stands now.
Next time the Hooisers are in town the first dozen beers are on me....
Nothing shrill about this. Just facts. In 2002, Ohio State was the first, and to date, only, team that went 14-0, capping it off with a victory against an 'invincible' Miami team that had won 31 or 32 games in a row.
USC lost 2 games that season.
But USC was better?
Ok.
I talk to a business associate daily who lives in the LA area, graduated from there, has had USC season tickets for 25 or something years, and is a huge fan.
He confirms your analysis of that area and has mentioned it a million times.
NOW you tell me...:mj07:
Yes, it was quite quiet during and after that game, wasn't it? I'd have found a cold beer or two for you had I know you were in town for the game. I've had season tickets for years--sit on the 45 yrd line half way up the West stands now.
Next time the Hooisers are in town the first dozen beers are on me....
We have a kid from my hometown of Greenfield that plays for IU.... Josiah Sears.... scored two TDs that day and had the infamous fumble that Lewis scooped up and ran 70 yards for a TD.
I didn't even think to post on here that I was going to the game for any MJers in the area. We tailgated in the public parking lot off Hawkins Drive. Got in town around 6AM your time and tailgated until about half hour before kickoff. Had a lot of fun with the Hawk fans around us.
I went to high school with the OC for IU.
Next time we travel your way, I'll let you know and the next twelve will be on me!
Its a plan! We tailgate a little farther away from Kinnick than where you were at, but its only a 10 minute walk from our spot to the stadium. The Hooisers are looking alright this season, hope they finish strong and get a Florida bowl game.
Thanks my friend. I'm heading up to East Lansing next week, then we have Penn State at home, then we've got a group going to Wisconsin, come back for Ball State. I'll miss the trip to Northwestern, but will be back in town for the final home game against Purdue.
It seems so strange for me to see 7 or 8 college football games this year and not have any of them be Alabama! :shrug:
I would love it for this IU's senior class to get to a good bowl game. They've had to go through a lot the past few years.
Starbucks in the Coliseum? Do you actually know anything about/ever been to the coliseum? There is plenty to critize about that stadium, but it has to do with a LACK of modernization.
As for the area, USC's crime rate is lower than UCLA's. The campus and immediate neighborhood around USC are about as safe as you can get in LA proper. It is multi-ethnic though, so you need to not be afraid of black and brown people. If you are the type of person who crosses the street to avoid walking by a black person, yeah, it would be a nightmare down there. Or, if you are stupid enough to hop in your car at night, drive a couple miles south of USC - can't fathom why you would want to do that, well, then you are in a different world and not too smart. But that is life in the big city. One caviat is, that your risk of violent crime does jump if you run into one of our football players named Sanchez and Maulaluga after dark.
As for USC, they are still in the running despite the loss, given other teams stumbling and still having Cal & Ore on the schedule for sure. But, the problem is that Booty sucks. He cost SC both losses last year and was responsible for this year's. People have figured out that if you get you hands up at the line of scrimmage, you will tip his passes, if you pressure him, he will make bad decisions. With him starting, SC is in for at least another loss if not 2 or 3. Carroll built this team based on best player plays regardless, but with Booty he has a blind spot and this team is going nowhere unless Booty gets the hook. He is a one man wrecking crew and should be deported back to Louisiana.
From College Football News....
Stanford beats USC 24-23
Move over Appalachian State; Stanford just one upped you.
ASU was a two-time defending national champion with a history of winning, and an excellent system in place, when it shocked the world with an upset over Michigan to begin the season. But as improbable as that was, it turns out Michigan just isn?t all that great. Also, if there?s usually going to be a big upset, it?ll come in the season opener when the supposedly superior team doesn?t have time to jell. After all, there aren?t any preseason games to use as tune ups.
There was no excuse for USC this week.
It had four games to get everything together. It had a huge, dominant win at Nebraska, and a blowout over Washington State, to get all the kinks worked out. It had a second-half letdown against Washington to be scared straight coming into this week. Sure, it was just Stanford, and all the Trojans had to do was show up and go through the motions, right?
That?s how it should?ve been, and that?s certainly how USC played in the second half. Still, there?s no excuse. USC?s third teamers are more talented than Stanford?s first team. The Cardinal didn?t have its starting quarterback, T.C. Ostrander, after he suffered a seizure this week. This is US-freakin?-C. This place gets its backups drafted by the NFL.
This is USC, you know, the program that had 31 players drafted in the last five years. The program with a BCS national championship, four BCS wins in five years, and had lost all of two regular season games in the last 45. The program that won 35 straight homes games, with the last loss coming to Stanford in 2001. The program was a 38 point favorite this week over the Cardinal. The juggernaut of juggernauts, with a talent-level that was unparalleled, thanks to a who?s who of blue-chip, five-star recruits.
Even superstars tend to screw up.
After the fact, the line on the ASU-Michigan game would?ve likely been Michigan -28ish, give or take a few points. Temple?s 1998 win over Virginia Tech was considered the gold-standard of upsets, winning 28-24 despite being 36.5 point underdogs. And now there?s this.
To understand just how big an upset this is, you have to remember where Stanford was at last year. This was being called the worst Pac 10 team in league history, setting records for futility on offense, and ineptitude on defense, cranking out just 127 points on the year and only coming up with one win. The program hasn?t had a winning season since 2001, and was coming into the game after getting outscored 141 to 51 in three Pac 10 games.
But against USC, the offense took advantage of every opportunity. USC QB John David Booty chose to air mail too many key throws, the Trojan defensive backs couldn?t handle the big Stanford receivers, and now the college football world has been turned upside down.
Yes, your world as you know it has changed, and this one win, this one Tavita Pritchard-to-Mark Bradford fourth-and-goal ten-yard touchdown pass will have a trickle down effect that could make this an extremely interesting next several months. And part of that, to come full-circle, might have something to do with Appalachian State.
Does this win mean Cardinal head coach Jim Harbaugh is the favorite over LSU head coach Les Miles for what?s assumed to be an open Michigan job at the end of this year, or at least in 2009? Does this ruin USC?s aura of invincibility, that wasn?t stripped away by losses to Oregon State and UCLA last season. Does this mean Ohio State is in the national title picture yet again, and does this open the door for a slew of unknowns, like Missouri, Kansas or South Florida, to possibly come up with a dream season?
Oh, this will be a fun next six weeks. Thanks, Stanford..
Who are the big winners from USC's loss?
1. Ohio State: Now the Buckeyes, after the win over Purdue, basically know they can win out and end up in New Orleans.
2. Oklahoma: When it comes to one-loss teams, the OU loss to Colorado doesn't look as horrible now.
3. South Florida & Cincinnati: The Big East has eliminated one of the two key unbeatens out of the way.
4. Hawaii: Hawaii?! The Warriors have to go unbeaten, and have to blow away Washington, but USC's loss certainly doesn't hurt.
5. Boston College: This is starting to become the underground hot team. Now it has to start actually playing teams with a pulse, and will start to get more national attention.
Stanford beats USC 24-23
Move over Appalachian State; Stanford just one upped you.
ASU was a two-time defending national champion with a history of winning, and an excellent system in place, when it shocked the world with an upset over Michigan to begin the season. But as improbable as that was, it turns out Michigan just isn?t all that great. Also, if there?s usually going to be a big upset, it?ll come in the season opener when the supposedly superior team doesn?t have time to jell. After all, there aren?t any preseason games to use as tune ups.
There was no excuse for USC this week.
It had four games to get everything together. It had a huge, dominant win at Nebraska, and a blowout over Washington State, to get all the kinks worked out. It had a second-half letdown against Washington to be scared straight coming into this week. Sure, it was just Stanford, and all the Trojans had to do was show up and go through the motions, right?
That?s how it should?ve been, and that?s certainly how USC played in the second half. Still, there?s no excuse. USC?s third teamers are more talented than Stanford?s first team. The Cardinal didn?t have its starting quarterback, T.C. Ostrander, after he suffered a seizure this week. This is US-freakin?-C. This place gets its backups drafted by the NFL.
This is USC, you know, the program that had 31 players drafted in the last five years. The program with a BCS national championship, four BCS wins in five years, and had lost all of two regular season games in the last 45. The program that won 35 straight homes games, with the last loss coming to Stanford in 2001. The program was a 38 point favorite this week over the Cardinal. The juggernaut of juggernauts, with a talent-level that was unparalleled, thanks to a who?s who of blue-chip, five-star recruits.
Even superstars tend to screw up.
After the fact, the line on the ASU-Michigan game would?ve likely been Michigan -28ish, give or take a few points. Temple?s 1998 win over Virginia Tech was considered the gold-standard of upsets, winning 28-24 despite being 36.5 point underdogs. And now there?s this.
To understand just how big an upset this is, you have to remember where Stanford was at last year. This was being called the worst Pac 10 team in league history, setting records for futility on offense, and ineptitude on defense, cranking out just 127 points on the year and only coming up with one win. The program hasn?t had a winning season since 2001, and was coming into the game after getting outscored 141 to 51 in three Pac 10 games.
But against USC, the offense took advantage of every opportunity. USC QB John David Booty chose to air mail too many key throws, the Trojan defensive backs couldn?t handle the big Stanford receivers, and now the college football world has been turned upside down.
Yes, your world as you know it has changed, and this one win, this one Tavita Pritchard-to-Mark Bradford fourth-and-goal ten-yard touchdown pass will have a trickle down effect that could make this an extremely interesting next several months. And part of that, to come full-circle, might have something to do with Appalachian State.
Does this win mean Cardinal head coach Jim Harbaugh is the favorite over LSU head coach Les Miles for what?s assumed to be an open Michigan job at the end of this year, or at least in 2009? Does this ruin USC?s aura of invincibility, that wasn?t stripped away by losses to Oregon State and UCLA last season. Does this mean Ohio State is in the national title picture yet again, and does this open the door for a slew of unknowns, like Missouri, Kansas or South Florida, to possibly come up with a dream season?
Oh, this will be a fun next six weeks. Thanks, Stanford..
Who are the big winners from USC's loss?
1. Ohio State: Now the Buckeyes, after the win over Purdue, basically know they can win out and end up in New Orleans.
2. Oklahoma: When it comes to one-loss teams, the OU loss to Colorado doesn't look as horrible now.
3. South Florida & Cincinnati: The Big East has eliminated one of the two key unbeatens out of the way.
4. Hawaii: Hawaii?! The Warriors have to go unbeaten, and have to blow away Washington, but USC's loss certainly doesn't hurt.
5. Boston College: This is starting to become the underground hot team. Now it has to start actually playing teams with a pulse, and will start to get more national attention.
Stanford entered the game as a 41-point underdog. In terms of point spreads, the six-touchdown margin makes the Trojans' collapse the biggest upset in history as far as the sports books are concerned.
Clearly the fact that USC came into the game as the top ranked team in the coaches' poll and Stanford came in ranked behind six I-AA teams in this week's Sagarin ratings only adds to the shocking result.
Clearly the fact that USC came into the game as the top ranked team in the coaches' poll and Stanford came in ranked behind six I-AA teams in this week's Sagarin ratings only adds to the shocking result.
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I think another way to look at is matching the teams up against each other.
From my viewpoint, USC would beat Michigan handily 9 out of 10 times this year.
Also from my standpoint, Stanford and App St. are probably a toss-up on a given night. Stanford may have a 6-4 edge and a very outside shot of 7-3.
So from looking at it like this, I think the Stanford over USC upset is larger.
From my viewpoint, USC would beat Michigan handily 9 out of 10 times this year.
Also from my standpoint, Stanford and App St. are probably a toss-up on a given night. Stanford may have a 6-4 edge and a very outside shot of 7-3.
So from looking at it like this, I think the Stanford over USC upset is larger.
Miami was better than OSU and UM won that game in my mind. The Back Judge who was an OSU alum tossed a bogus flag that essentially gave OSU the game. Check out the 02' Cane roster. It looks like the 06' Pro Bowl. That would eliminate USC for 02'. For what its worth, I thought LSU was the best team last year. Set a line on match-ups between the top teams. I trust LV- obviously underdogs do win games, but if they played 10 times......
