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Seems folk are sick of the old timers hanging on in Wash DC. A fresh face with some youth still in his bones is rather up lifting. The Reb just didn't get behind Rudy or Mitt till it was to late. Now there stuck. For the Dems seat of power is fighting hard to hang on. I think there about to lose to young and up coming force. You can see it with the 18 to 30 year old voters. I'm glad to see them finaly stand up. Now lets see if they show up for Gen Election.
 

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Seems folk are sick of the old timers hanging on in Wash DC. A fresh face with some youth still in his bones is rather up lifting. The Reb just didn't get behind Rudy or Mitt till it was to late. Now there stuck. For the Dems seat of power is fighting hard to hang on. I think there about to lose to young and up coming force. You can see it with the 18 to 30 year old voters. I'm glad to see them finaly stand up. Now lets see if they show up for Gen Election.

does george mcgovern ring a bell ?

the youth(i was one of them) at that time loved this guy also but when the issues were discussed & the amnerican voters saw how liberal he was...he got trounced.well stakes are higher now,& i think the voters will see also that obama is too liberal for today's world....but the results will be closer than nixon vs. mcgovern..
 

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does george mcgovern ring a bell ?

the youth(i was one of them) at that time loved this guy also but when the issues were discussed & the amnerican voters saw how liberal he was...he got trounced.well stakes are higher now,& i think the voters will see also that obama is too liberal for today's world....but the results will be closer than nixon vs. mcgovern..

This Iraq mess is more like Vietnam then we think. No one has a plan to get out. Obama says he will start to withdraw immediatley, Hillary 60 days, McCain, follow the Bush plan. reminds me Nixon having a secret plan to end Vietnam which turned out to be to follow Johnsons plan. But our senators are looking into whether some big headed pitcher put a needle in his ass or if Belichick cheated. This is a disgrace.
 

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I would agree with you from what I know about him he is far cry from his father. On the drugs--I have no prob with what he did in his early years--in fact give him a plus for admission and correcting problem.

on side note from politics- on the apple thing.

When I was growing up my parents always wanted to know who the parents were of those I was hanging out with or dating. Never thought much of it at the time but could later in life. Uncanny how many aquire both physical and ethical traits of parents.

Would say Obama has done very good job of over coming a very poor hand that he was dealt-no question--but can also see lots of similiarities of another pres we had that looked quite the same in many respects during same period of life--so I tread a little causiously on long term outlooks.

are you talking about bush or clinton.... unlike clinton,to my knowledge there are no reports about Obama not being true to his wife.... Unlike bush, he has had no run ins with the law because of drugs or drinking. Obamas father left his mother when he was 2yrs old to attend Harvard. Smart family anyways....... His grandparents raised Him from the 5th grade on.
 

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are you talking about bush or clinton.... unlike clinton,to my knowledge there are no reports about Obama not being true to his wife.... Unlike bush, he has had no run ins with the law because of drugs or drinking. Obamas father left his mother when he was 2yrs old to attend Harvard. Smart family anyways....... His grandparents raised Him from the 5th grade on.

Was comparing similiarities to Clinton--
both from disfunctional families--both intelligent and excelled as students--both extremely motivation speakers--both making their fortunes via politics and book writing--appears carbon copies to me up to this stage of Obama's life.
 

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This Iraq mess is more like Vietnam then we think. No one has a plan to get out. Obama says he will start to withdraw immediatley, Hillary 60 days, McCain, follow the Bush plan. reminds me Nixon having a secret plan to end Vietnam which turned out to be to follow Johnsons plan. But our senators are looking into whether some big headed pitcher put a needle in his ass or if Belichick cheated. This is a disgrace.

Ya know Stevie--this time we might have this thing won before you all have chance in your track meet to defeat --now wouldn't that be a damn shame for Clinton/Obama/Reid/Pelosi and your party----and Al-Qaeda

"Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki proclaimed on Friday that Al-Qaeda had been routed in Baghdad thanks to a security plan launched a year ago, and would soon be defeated throughout the country.
"Thank God, we destroyed the cells of Al-Qaeda. They have been chased out of Baghdad and this has opened the way for their defeat throughout Iraq," Maliki said at a ceremony marking the launch on February 14 last year of the Baghdad security plan, known as Operation Fardh al-Qanoon (Imposing Law).

"Today our forces are locked in battle against outlaws in Nineveh and we are chasing them," he added, referring to the northern province where Iraqi officials say Al-Qaeda has regrouped after fleeing Baghdad.

Maliki on January 25 announced a "decisive battle" against Al-Qaeda in Nineveh province, and sent troop and police reinforcements to the provincial capital Mosul, which the US military says is the last urban stronghold of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

The prime minister thanked "all those who helped make the security plan a success and who saved the country from the miserable situation it was in due to Al-Qaeda's violence and terrorism."

To mark the anniversary of the launch of Fardh al-Qanoon, he laid a wreath at the monument to the Unknown Soldier in Baghdad at a ceremony attended by the defence and interior ministers and other Iraqi officials.

The launch of Fardh al-Qanoon coincided with the start of a "surge" of an extra 30,000 US troops in Iraq, which has helped reduce the number of bombings in the capital, while the streets are no longer theatres for violent clashes between insurgents and the security forces.

The decrease in violence is being experienced elsewhere as well, with US and Iraqi officials saying that attacks across the country are down 62 percent since June while the number of Iraqis -- civilians and security force members -- killed in January 2008 was 541 against 2,087 in the same month in 2007.

But recent attacks in Baghdad, including twin blasts in the city centre which targeted a meeting of tribal leaders and killed 19 people, have shown just how fragile the security situation is. "
 

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Was comparing similiarities to Clinton--
both from disfunctional families--both intelligent and excelled as students--both extremely motivation speakers--both making their fortunes via politics and book writing--appears carbon copies to me up to this stage of Obama's life.

Of course you were; silly me ... I'm not the smartest guy around but wouldn't you think you are over simplifying things. (CARBON COPY ???????) Would have to say it matters that Obama has been published before he ran for President. On the family stuff, there are differences : Clinton lived with his stepfather who was a abusive drunk durring his formable years, Obama lived with his grandparents, by all accounts in a loving setting. Obama dosen't bring a long list of questionable personal and political character flaws with him like Clinton did. Obama seems to rate the highest on the "normal scale" if you compare him to Clinton & Bush 43.... If Rebulicans looked at Bush and asked the same questions about him, I don't think he would be our President. Obama seems to be more socially adjusted, more of a self made man and intellectually superoir to Bush .
 
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"Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki proclaimed on Friday that Al-Qaeda had been routed in Baghdad thanks to a security plan launched a year ago, and would soon be defeated throughout the country

"Thank God, we destroyed the cells of Al-Qaeda. They have been chased out of Baghdad and this has opened the way for their defeat throughout Iraq,"


Lemme get this straight. There was no AQ presence in Iraq before we invaded. Then there was, as a result of our invasion. Now they're being chased out of Baghdad.

This is kind of akin to the pride that we take in getting oil production almost back to pre shock and awe levels.

As stated a hundred times, AQ never had a shot in hell of taking over Iraq, despite the shrill fearmongers statements.

AQ is Sunni and the Shia will rule the country, probably with an iron fist, in the end. Period.

Some still have no concept that AQ is not, and never has been, the longterm problem that Iraq will face.

It makes for good 'copy' for the pro Iraqi occupation people to invoke 'AQ' every chance they get, in yet another futile attempt to wind the Iraq debacle back to 9/11.
 

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I wish Kosar would post more often. He has such a competent and user-friendly way of disecting DTB's deceptive spins.
 

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I wish Kosar would post more often. He has such a competent and user-friendly way of disecting DTB's deceptive spins.
Yep The AQ that been killed there are just myths--wonder why UBL and Al-Zarchwi have been coming out with all the propaganda on how important win is there :shrug:

--only one hope left for them--and thats we don't finish job prior to November if switch in leadership.

While on the spin tangent--
Let me ask you the same question again that is always followed by slience--

We do yo think is :00hour harder for a liberal pres--yourselves or AQ?
 

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Yep The AQ that been killed there are just myths--wonder why UBL and Al-Zarchwi have been coming out with all the propaganda on how important win is there :shrug:

--only one hope left for them--and thats we don't finish job prior to November if switch in leadership.

While on the spin tangent--
Let me ask you the same question again that is always followed by slience--

We do yo think is :00hour harder for a liberal pres--yourselves or AQ?

If we stay there much longer they will win. That is their plan to make us go broke and implode. That is why they push up the propaganda everytime it looks like we might leave.
 
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