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How can you not take that shot!!!!!!!!:shrug:

Passes it because he was scared.....jackass


so much for a nice moneyline bet
 

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How can you not take that shot!!!!!!!!:shrug:

Passes it because he was scared.....jackass


so much for a nice moneyline bet

maybe he didn't want to shoot foul shots. Plus the shot before that he hit the side of the backboard.
 

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Trey goes in hes a genius; makes it we have OT and they prob lose; the paradox is LJ had nothing to do with shot but no one says anything about Marshall :shrug:

my gawd, people everywhere using 20/20 to roast the kid (and Im not a LJ fan per se) ... IMO he made a ballsy play and went for the rd. win ... give him credit instead of ripping him ... this is our society, the glass always half empty
 

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Trey goes in hes a genius; makes it we have OT and they prob lose; the paradox is LJ had nothing to do with shot but no one says anything about Marshall :shrug:

my gawd, people everywhere using 20/20 to roast the kid (and Im not a LJ fan per se) ... IMO he made a ballsy play and went for the rd. win ... give him credit instead of ripping him ... this is our society, the glass always half empty

You have to slam that thing down and hope for overtime. He had a wide open shot. Im starting to think that this kid is having so much pressure put on him that its affecting his game. They should just let him play and stop all this ridiculous hype. He is no Jordan and never will be. To me his game has gone backwards. Like magic just said its four years now its time to stop talking and start doing.
 

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at same age MJ was losing in chitown ... plus LJ being poor ft shooter might've played into it ... MJ couldnt get over hump for a long time with Bulls ... when we judge a 21/22 y-o in terms of "never will bes" we are not using sagacity
 

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at same age MJ was losing in chitown ... plus LJ being poor ft shooter might've played into it ... MJ couldnt get over hump for a long time with Bulls ... when we judge a 21/22 y-o in terms of "never will bes" we are not using sagacity

Ok, SOMEBODY has to give you props for your use of the word sagacity so it may as well be me. :142smilie All kidding aside, I completely agree with you. I think kicking it out to Marshall for the WIDE OPEN three was the right play there. Cleveland was the inferior team playing on the road, and Marshall is a very good 3-point shooter. You have to go for the win there.

Even if Lebron takes the shot and makes it (and it wasn't as easy a shot as people are saying it was), Cleveland still would have needed a stop on defense just to force OT. Then if the game did go into OT they probably would have lost. Again, weaker team on the road in the playoffs is probably not going to steal the game in OT. I think the percentages of Marshall making a wide open three, then getting a stop on D to win the game are better than the other scenario outlined above.
 

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lbj is a great player, he likes to share the ball and is not a selfish player, for example "kobe", i would take lbj over kobe as a teammate anytime, no questions ask.

lbj is just an around player talented player, that was the right thing to do in that situation with all with what everyone mentioned above.
 

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lbj is a great player, he likes to share the ball and is not a selfish player, for example "kobe", i would take lbj over kobe as a teammate anytime, no questions ask.

lbj is just an around player talented player, that was the right thing to do in that situation with all with what everyone mentioned above.

You guys are crazy he had a very easy layup. He has to take it. Now if he had to force it a bit i would agree with you but this was an easy shot. You cant chance a three in that spot if you have an easy layup and it was easy. I do agree tho this shithole team would be better off taking a shot at a three and ending the game but when you are that open you have to lay it in.
 

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lbj is a great player, he likes to share the ball and is not a selfish player, for example "kobe", i would take lbj over kobe as a teammate anytime, no questions ask.

lbj is just an around player talented player, that was the right thing to do in that situation with all with what everyone mentioned above.

Your right he is better than Kobe, Magic Oscar,Jordan, and Wilt combined. Keep listening to the brainwash hype they keep shoveling on commands from Stern..
 

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You guys are crazy he had a very easy layup. He has to take it. Now if he had to force it a bit i would agree with you but this was an easy shot. You cant chance a three in that spot if you have an easy layup and it was easy. I do agree tho this shithole team would be better off taking a shot at a three and ending the game but when you are that open you have to lay it in.

You act like he had a clear, uncontested path to the hoop or something. I don't know how you can say that would have been an easy layup. Yes he was driving to the hoop, but he had Prince directly on his right and Wallace coming over to help out. Considering how long Prince is I think it's just as likely he gets his shot blocked in that situation than it is he makes it. Not saying it would have been a low percentage shot, but considering he had a good 3-point shooter wide open in the corner with a chance to win the game, I certainly can't fault him for his decision.
 

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if he went up with the layup he would have been mugged. the detroit players would gladly put him on the line to shoot two. the odds of him making two free throws under pressure are about 50 percent at best. he's just not clutch.....yet....maybe he will be one day.

if the three goes in he's a hero

if it misses he gets questioned

and if he misses one of the free throws which there is a huge probability he will he's a goat.

he chose to roll the dice and not be a goat.

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I must have had a bad angle along with Barkley and Magic who both agree with me. If they make the three sure its great but man look at that play again. He had the angle and a easy layup. Barkley and Magic were stunned he passed it. If Prince goes up to block it he breaks his arm on the bottom of the rim.
 

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Of course Barkley and Magic are going to say that. They have the "Lebron is a star and the best player on his team so he always has to take the last shots in the clutch" mentality. If it was someone like Kobe or Nash I might agree. Those guys have proven they can make big shots and if they get fouled they will make their FTs. Lebron has proven repeatedly that he is not a reliable guy in the 4th quarter of games and he is certainly not a good FT shooter at the end of games.

The reaction I heard today was very mixed. Some thought he should have shot the ball and a lot of others thought the pass was the right play. Marshall was wide open and that's a shot he should make. He just made 6 threes the other night at NJ. It's not like it was Ilgauskas standing out there. Like pt and BDB have said, if Marshall simply makes that wide open shot people would be talking about the great drive and dish by Lebron today, not second-guessing the fact that he passed to a wide open Marshall. I still think playing for the win on the road is the right play considering Detroit is the better team. You certainly can't assume Cleveland would outplay Detroit in OT on their homefloor. Just my opinion...
 

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i didnt say he was better than the players u mention, especially not jordan, but i said a better "teammate" (keyword) than kobe. i would rather have kobe to take my last shot as a coach, but as a teammate im taking lbj or jordan
 

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first of all, I think he did have a pretty easy shot on that drive...but how can you fault him for passing to a wide open teammate (thats a pretty good 3 pt shooter) for the win? hit and you steal one on the road...miss and you still have another chance....

but comparing him to Jordan or any of the greats is ludicrous imo...check out Jordans 4th year in the league:

fg.535, ft .841, rpg 5.5, apg 5.9, spg 3.16, bpg 1.6, ppg 35

not only in the numbers, but being clutch and overall persona...Jordan was just very likeable....I couldn't say I have any favorite player in the NBA these days...I think they all suck...I can't even watch a full NBA game anymore it sucks so bad...
 

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Of course Barkley and Magic are going to say that. They have the "Lebron is a star and the best player on his team so he always has to take the last shots in the clutch" mentality. If it was someone like Kobe or Nash I might agree. Those guys have proven they can make big shots and if they get fouled they will make their FTs. Lebron has proven repeatedly that he is not a reliable guy in the 4th quarter of games and he is certainly not a good FT shooter at the end of games.

The reaction I heard today was very mixed. Some thought he should have shot the ball and a lot of others thought the pass was the right play. Marshall was wide open and that's a shot he should make. He just made 6 threes the other night at NJ. It's not like it was Ilgauskas standing out there. Like pt and BDB have said, if Marshall simply makes that wide open shot people would be talking about the great drive and dish by Lebron today, not second-guessing the fact that he passed to a wide open Marshall. I still think playing for the win on the road is the right play considering Detroit is the better team. You certainly can't assume Cleveland would outplay Detroit in OT on their homefloor. Just my opinion...

Glen i see your side but you make it sound like a three is a high percentage shot. I know one thing if this was Jordan he takes that ball slams the fuker and then helps up Prince and Rasheed and anyone else that got in the way. I also know that if Marshall made that three it would have gone down as the greatest assist in playoff history just because it was Lebron. According to the NBA that is. I will tell you what Lebron better get it done soon because the NBA has another love child on the way and his name is Glen Oden. I hear all the bullshit already as when Shack came into the league. Great character guy, A winner. Same shit with Shack and these guys get to do what they want like in fouls. Shack while just running over people and fouling about 15 to 20 times a night was always shoved down our throats as one of the greatest of all time. A guy this big who can't make foul shots, throws up bricks, and at 7'-2 never lead the league in rebounding won a couple of suspect titles in my world.
 
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at the risk of looking 20-20, let the games begin ...

can the CAVS win one in Deet?

I'd say yes, :shrug:

Great series, games coming down to 2 evenly matched teams each game
 

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it would be nice if the cavs make it to the finals and win it then we can really start praising lebron as the BIGGEST THING SINCE MAGIC :SIB
 

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it would be nice if the cavs make it to the finals and win it then we can really start praising lebron as the BIGGEST THING SINCE MAGIC :SIB

If i own this team that is exactly where i would put him and that is at point guard. Its tough with all the pigs he has around him but his game reminds me the most of Magics. He handles the ball well and he shoots like Magic. How he throws up brick after brick and then he hits a long tough fade away which is strange. And get Hughes away from him because he stunk in Philly and he is killing the Cavs all playoffs. He shots to much and his defense is average at best. His court awareness is a lot like Magics.
 

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people keep saying LJ has no help, but that hydra frontline of ilgawks, hair bear bunch, doc gooden, and the deputy has its functional merit ..
 
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