HSF Degen Record....14-9 (+2.8 u) (always - 120)
Rather an inauspicious start to the degenerate high school football thread but things should be getting better and as more games get played the more we will know.
Thurs.
5 pm
Valor Christian -14
Pine Creek 53'
Hmmm, again Valor gets air time as the returning 5A State Champs are 3-0 thus far but have an interesting match-up this week. Last week was easy pickings as Eagles giving 28 points was comical and allowed my open parlays to get a nice W. Hopefully we get to add to it tomorrow night.
I'm feeling pretty confident in this pick too and wouldn't be shocked to see Pine Creek to pull off their first W over the 5A power. Pine Creek is no slouch and their HC Todd Miller is definitely saying all the right things to get his troops motivated. Last year saw Pine Creek drop out of the 4A State quarterfinals getting upended by Skyline 22-21 which noone saw coming. A test of a great program is the ability of the HC to go back to the drawing board, but he does so with a ton of returning talent. He admitted that he allowed some sloppiness last season which caught up to the Eagles (yes another Eagles team) in the State playoffs. Eagles have manhandled their early competition (3-0)but make no mistake, I'm not basing my pick on the early returns, but rather on the fact that Pine Creek has had this one circled since summer passing league.
Pine Creek Eagles carry their own impressive dynasty record going 164-33 overall and 90-7 in league. They have pretty much dominated their League running the table from 2013-2018 (with minor hiccup in 2011)they won 2011-2006. Captured three 4A Champ between 2013-2016. HC Todd Miller has 4 State Titles and is favored to win another this year. Program is bottom heavy with returning talent. Eagles are the current #1 ranked 4A Colorado Team and from what I can gather the players actually believe they are the best in the state. That obviously remains to be seen and I'm sure 6A powers like Cherry Creek and Pomona would disagree but they do return 17 starters and the possibly the best overall RB David Moore III, a 3 star talent. The Sr is only (5'8" 177lbs)which is the knock on him but he is only 600 yards shy of 6,000 career rush yards and is the first player in Pine Creek lore to have started all 4 years on the Varsity. Several Div 1 programs are starting to gain interest. He has compiled 58 TDs in 3 years and already has a State Championship Ring which his pals want too. Thus far he's rushed for 390 yards in 3 games w/5 TDs.
Returning QB Gavin Herberg is a 2 year starter and although he has only 15 completions this season, 9 of those were for scores. Lead WR Eddie Kyle returns and has already snatched 4 TDs. Sr Max Lofy doubles duty as WR/CB is heading to Wisconsin, and their TE Reese Rowan is returning from an injured 2018. Team has a kicker (Luke Wieland) that will be playing in College next year, but only had 3 FGs last season mainly because Eagles finish drives. With 17 returning starters and an OL that is monstrous, this could be the year.
Valor was giving way too many points last week and I think +14 is a gift too. No doubt Valor won't get walked over but I capped this game at a pick so feeling pretty comfortable with the extra points. Valor won last year 28-7.....P. C. will have to contend with Super Soph RB Gavin Sawchuck who has compiled 304 rush yards (avr 5.8 ypc). QB Cole Bott has been efficient in McCaffreys system, but I always wonder about the durability of a QB who stands 6'7" and weighs 185 lbs. His numbers are decent at 34 of 59 comp for 509 yards passing (57.6%). I will give McCaffrey credit as the numbers are fairly even averaging 178.7 ypg passing and 183 rush ypg.
It's hard not to like Valor with their 8 State Titles since starting a Varsity program in 2009. This game definitely comes down to RB G Sawchuck vs RB D Moore III. This match pits the #1 4A team against the #1 ranked 5A team. I like the confidence that Pine Creek exudes I think HC Todd Miller learned a valuable lesson about his team in 2018 and like he was quoted "we had lipstick on the pig"... So think he will have this Sr experienced squad ready to go and Valor travels to Colorado Springs this year.
3 unit play on Pine Creek +14
1 unit on the Under 53'*Think the ground game is going to be alive and well here.
Rather an inauspicious start to the degenerate high school football thread but things should be getting better and as more games get played the more we will know.
Thurs.
5 pm
Valor Christian -14
Pine Creek 53'
Hmmm, again Valor gets air time as the returning 5A State Champs are 3-0 thus far but have an interesting match-up this week. Last week was easy pickings as Eagles giving 28 points was comical and allowed my open parlays to get a nice W. Hopefully we get to add to it tomorrow night.
I'm feeling pretty confident in this pick too and wouldn't be shocked to see Pine Creek to pull off their first W over the 5A power. Pine Creek is no slouch and their HC Todd Miller is definitely saying all the right things to get his troops motivated. Last year saw Pine Creek drop out of the 4A State quarterfinals getting upended by Skyline 22-21 which noone saw coming. A test of a great program is the ability of the HC to go back to the drawing board, but he does so with a ton of returning talent. He admitted that he allowed some sloppiness last season which caught up to the Eagles (yes another Eagles team) in the State playoffs. Eagles have manhandled their early competition (3-0)but make no mistake, I'm not basing my pick on the early returns, but rather on the fact that Pine Creek has had this one circled since summer passing league.
Pine Creek Eagles carry their own impressive dynasty record going 164-33 overall and 90-7 in league. They have pretty much dominated their League running the table from 2013-2018 (with minor hiccup in 2011)they won 2011-2006. Captured three 4A Champ between 2013-2016. HC Todd Miller has 4 State Titles and is favored to win another this year. Program is bottom heavy with returning talent. Eagles are the current #1 ranked 4A Colorado Team and from what I can gather the players actually believe they are the best in the state. That obviously remains to be seen and I'm sure 6A powers like Cherry Creek and Pomona would disagree but they do return 17 starters and the possibly the best overall RB David Moore III, a 3 star talent. The Sr is only (5'8" 177lbs)which is the knock on him but he is only 600 yards shy of 6,000 career rush yards and is the first player in Pine Creek lore to have started all 4 years on the Varsity. Several Div 1 programs are starting to gain interest. He has compiled 58 TDs in 3 years and already has a State Championship Ring which his pals want too. Thus far he's rushed for 390 yards in 3 games w/5 TDs.
Returning QB Gavin Herberg is a 2 year starter and although he has only 15 completions this season, 9 of those were for scores. Lead WR Eddie Kyle returns and has already snatched 4 TDs. Sr Max Lofy doubles duty as WR/CB is heading to Wisconsin, and their TE Reese Rowan is returning from an injured 2018. Team has a kicker (Luke Wieland) that will be playing in College next year, but only had 3 FGs last season mainly because Eagles finish drives. With 17 returning starters and an OL that is monstrous, this could be the year.
Valor was giving way too many points last week and I think +14 is a gift too. No doubt Valor won't get walked over but I capped this game at a pick so feeling pretty comfortable with the extra points. Valor won last year 28-7.....P. C. will have to contend with Super Soph RB Gavin Sawchuck who has compiled 304 rush yards (avr 5.8 ypc). QB Cole Bott has been efficient in McCaffreys system, but I always wonder about the durability of a QB who stands 6'7" and weighs 185 lbs. His numbers are decent at 34 of 59 comp for 509 yards passing (57.6%). I will give McCaffrey credit as the numbers are fairly even averaging 178.7 ypg passing and 183 rush ypg.
It's hard not to like Valor with their 8 State Titles since starting a Varsity program in 2009. This game definitely comes down to RB G Sawchuck vs RB D Moore III. This match pits the #1 4A team against the #1 ranked 5A team. I like the confidence that Pine Creek exudes I think HC Todd Miller learned a valuable lesson about his team in 2018 and like he was quoted "we had lipstick on the pig"... So think he will have this Sr experienced squad ready to go and Valor travels to Colorado Springs this year.
3 unit play on Pine Creek +14
1 unit on the Under 53'*Think the ground game is going to be alive and well here.
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