Week 13

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YTD: 67-65-3 (-1.05)

Plays:
PACK Pick (-105) 5 Units;)
Oklahoma -19 (-105)
OK/TT OVER 75.5 (-108):eek:
OSU +7 bought hook (-115)

Leans:
Tennessee
Purdue
Pack/MD Over 55
TCU
Boise St
Bowling Green
Rice
Oreg St

promise not to paste as much info as last week, but will update injuries and good articles if i find any


glta


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I see you leaning to the Boilermakers again. You are now officiallly a Boiler Backer. :D I can see the Boilers naming the score in this game. I would love to see an Oklahoma type :moon: whippin. 77-0 sounds SWEEEEEEEEEEET.



POTFH
 

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boilermaker said:
I see you leaning to the Boilermakers again. You are now officiallly a Boiler Backer. :D I can see the Boilers naming the score in this game. I would love to see an Oklahoma type :moon: whippin. 77-0 sounds SWEEEEEEEEEEET.



POTFH


call me a boiler backer then;)

added plays:
Purdue -24.7 (-107)
UNC -6 (-106)
Pack/MD OVER 55 (-108)

should be a great weekend!!!:p
 

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joytoy:

that line looks very sharp, especially since vegas hung 7/10ths of a point on your purdue (-24.7) line. :D :joke:

in all seriousness, seems like a tough game for purdue to refocus for, no? :shrug: boilers with a heartbreaking loss and now they gotta get back up for their (term used loosely, but they still are considered) a rival. maybe indy will catch purdue a little uninspired after such a demoralizing loss to osu? indy sucks, but just wondering where purdue's head is at
 

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gman2 said:
joytoy:

that line looks very sharp, especially since vegas hung 7/10ths of a point on your purdue (-24.7) line. :D :joke:

in all seriousness, seems like a tough game for purdue to refocus for, no? :shrug: boilers with a heartbreaking loss and now they gotta get back up for their (term used loosely, but they still are considered) a rival. maybe indy will catch purdue a little uninspired after such a demoralizing loss to osu? indy sucks, but just wondering where purdue's head is at
:D :D ...yep....pinnacles very sharp;) ....i will let Ron chime in, but POTFH!!!:p ....really see this game kind of what Purdue did to the "fighting" illini..especially with it being THE rivalry....no holding back..will take out the frustration out on Indy.....am no Big 10 specialist, but i do follow a few teams around the nation...

gl on your plays this week buddy!;)
 

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Nov 17, 2003
Week 13: ACC Football Preview
By ACC Press Release




Three conference matchups highlight this weekend's four-game schedule.



NOTING THE ACC: Florida State captures 11th ACC title with 50-44 double-overtime win over NC State ... five ACC teams eligible for post-season play with two weeks left to play ... three conference matchups highlight a four-game Week 13 schedule ... NC State's Philip Rivers has thrown a touchdown pass in 11 straight games and is second on the NCAA career total offense list (12,801) and third in passing (12,733) ... Maryland's Nick Novak moves into seventh on the ACC career scoring list with 302 points ... NC State's Jerricho Cotchery has at least one reception in 37 straight games and is ninth on the ACC's career receiving yardage list with 2,846 yards ... Virginia's Alvin Pearman has 42 catches over his last four games ... Duke's Chris Douglas needs only 223 yards to become the league's all-time leader in all-purpose yardage ... Clemson's Charlie Whitehurst sets school single-season passing record with 3,013 yards ... Georgia Tech quarterback Reggie Ball is fourth on the ACC's freshmen total offense list with 2,040 yards ... Maryland's Ralph Friedgen winningest third-year coach in ACC history with 28 wins.
GAME PREVIEWS - Saturday, November 22

Georgia Tech (6-4, 4-3 ACC) at Virginia (5-5, 3-4 ACC)
JP; 12:00 noon
Scott Stadium (61,500)

THE GAME: Virginia and Georgia Tech renew acquaintances for the 26th time ... the Cavaliers have won six of the last 10 games against Tech, but the Yellow Jackets lead the series 13-11-1 ... the two teams have split the last eight meetings ... UVa is 6-2-1 against GaT in Charlottesville ... six of the seven meetings have been decided by eight points or less.





LAST YEAR: Georgia Tech led 23-0 at the half and despite a second-half comeback effort by the Cavaliers, won the game 23-15 ... Yellow Jacket RB P.J. Daniels led all rushers with 21 carries for 95 yards ... Virginia QB Matt Schaub threw for 372 yards on 41 of 58 passing attempts.

THE COACHES: Chan Gailey is 13-10 in his second year at Georgia Tech and 37-21 in five years overall ... Al Groh is 45-56 in his ninth season as a head coach, including a 19-16 mark in his third year at Virginia.

Fast Facts:

UVa's Matt Schaub ranks 14th in the ACC career charts for passing yardage with 6,661 ... Schaub also ranks 17th in total offense with 6,718 yards.
Yellow Jacket sophomore P.J. Daniels leads the ACC in rushing with 103.4 yards per game.
Virginia's Almondo Curry has four interceptions this season which currently ranks him second among ACC leaders.
Tech's James Butler leads the ACC in interceptions this season with five in ten games.
GaT's senior wide receiver Jonathan Smith ranks second in the ACC with 92.5 receiving yards per game.
Duke (3-8, 1-6 ACC) at North Carolina (2-9, 1-6 ACC)
1:05 p.m.
Kenan Stadium (60,000)

THE GAME: North Carolina holds the upper hand in this long-time rivarly since these two arch rivals first met on the gridiron in 1888 ... the Tar Heels have beaten the Blue Devils 13 straight times and lead the series 50-34-4, including a 26-16-2 mark in Chapel Hill ... the 13-game UNC win streak is the longest winning streak in series' history ... Duke's last win in the series was a 41-0 shutout in Chapel Hill in 1989 ... the ACC series total does not include an 1889 game in Durham that both schools claim as a forfeit victory.

LAST YEAR: North Carolina's Dan Orner connected on a 47-yard field goal as time expired to boost UNC past Duke, 23-21 ... Tar Heel QB Darian Durant was 21 of 35 for 262 passing yards ... the Blue Devils were led by Alex Wade who rushed for a game-high 138 yards.

THE COACHES: Duke interim head coach Ted Roof is 1-3 entering his fifth ball game ... John Bunting is 13-23 in his third season at North Carolina and 51-37-2 in eight years overall.

Fast Facts:

North Carolina's Michael Waddell ranks third nationally in kickoff returns (29.43).
Duke's Chris Douglas currently ranks second in the ACC for career all-purpose yardage with 5,606 ... Douglas also ranks eighth in the ACC career kickoff return charts with 1,759 yards.
UNC QB Darian Durant has recorded 6,979 yards of total offense ranking him 15th in the ACC career charts ... Durant also ranks 11th in ACC career passing efficiency (138.31).
Blue Devil junior Senterrio Landrum ranks second in the ACC and sixth nationally, averaging 28.54 yards per kickoff return.
Maryland (7-3, 4-2 ACC) at NC State (7-4, 4-3 ACC)
ABC; 3:30 p.m.
Carter-Finley Stadium (51,500)

THE GAME: The Terrapins and the Wolfpack will meet for the 60th time in a series that has gone uninterrupted since 1954 ... Maryland has won the last three meetings but NC State has won eight of the last 12 to take a 28-27-4 lead in a series that was first contested in 1909 ... the Wolfpack own a 15-13-3 edge in games played in Raleigh.

LAST YEAR: In a tight game through all four quarters, Maryland's Nick Novak kicked a 26-yard field goal with 34 seconds remaining to claim the 24-21 victory ... NC State QB Philip Rivers threw for 297 yards on 24 for 40 passing attempts.

THE COACHES: NC State's Chuck Amato is 32-16 in his fourth season as a head coach ... Ralph Friedgen is 27-8 in his third season at Maryland.

Fast Facts:

Wolfpack WR Jerricho Cotchery extended his string of games with at least one catch to 37 straight ... Cotchery moved into ninth place on the ACC's all-time receiving yardage list (2,846).
Pack QB Philip Rivers ranks second in the NCAA career total offense list with 12,801 yards ... Rivers is also third in the NCAA's all-time passing list with 12,733 yards.
Terp PK Nick Novak currently ranks seventh in the league record book with 302 career points ... Steve Suter has 989 career punt return yards placing him fifth in the ACC charts.
The Terps lead the ACC and rank fourth nationally in scoring defense allowing just over 14 points per game.
Clemson (7-4, 5-3 ACC) at South Carolina (5-6, 2-6 SEC)
ESPN2; 7:00 p.m.
Williams-Brice Stadium (80,250)

THE GAME: A full house and a national TV audience are expected for this game, as the two Palmetto State rivals clash for the 101st time in a series that has gone uninterrupted since 1909 ... this is the third-longest active series in Division I-A, trailing only Kansas-Nebraska (1906) and Minnesota-Wisconsin (1907) ... Clemson has won six of the last eight and 10 of the last 14 and leads the rivarly 60-36-4.

LAST YEAR: Clemson concluded its 2002 regular-season campaign with a thrilling 27-20 victory over South Carolina ... Tiger QB Charlie Whitehurst threw for 287 yards and was 27 for 38 ... Aaron Hunt connected on two field goals and three extra points for the Tigers in the seven point victory.

THE COACHES: Tommy Bowden is 54-28 in seven years as a head coach, including a 36-24 mark in five seasons at Clemson ... Lou Holtz is 243-126-7 as a head coach, including a 27-31 record at South Carolina.

Fast Facts:

Tiger QB Charlie Whitehurst has thrown for over 200 yards in 13 of his 16 career starts.
Clemson's Derrick Hamilton has recorded 4,431 all-purpose yards for his career ranking him 17th in the ACC charts.
Tiger placekicker Aaron Hunt ranks ninth in the ACC career scoring charts (297).
Clemson ranks 18th in the nation in passing offense with 285.4 yards per game ... the Tigers also rank second nationally in kickoff returns (27.85) and are tied for sixth with South Carolina in fewest fumbles (five lost).
 

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the teams attitude after the loss to FSU

the teams attitude after the loss to FSU

FSU Loss Doesn't Dampen Pack's Resolve
NC State's sets its sights on season finale against Maryland.


Nov. 16, 2003




By Tony Haynes

Raleigh, N.C.-On the charter flight back from Tallahassee on Saturday night, NC State football coach Chuck Amato watched and listened. He was taking the temperature of a football team that had just seen its ACC title hopes go up in smoke with a hard-fought double overtime loss to 13th ranked Florida State. What Amato saw was a young yet maturing football team that will be ready to prepare itself for another important battle. When Maryland visits Carter-Finley Stadium next Saturday at 3:30, the Wolfpack (7-4, 4-3) will be playing for a strong bowl invitation that would no doubt accompany a second place finish in the league standings.

"NC State hasn't finished second in the ACC for a long, long time and that would still be an outstanding season," Amato said. "I kind of felt on the plane that they were loose again, so they've finally gotten over [the Florida State loss] to a certain degree. Hey, it's the last game, it's home and the last game for our seniors. There are a couple of them - Jerricho [Cotchery] and Philip [Rivers] - that we owe those kids to have a great game and hopefully go away with a win. It's not going to be easy because we're running into a hot Maryland football team."





Saturday's game promises to bring even more emotion than usual for the reasons Amato mentioned. Rivers, in particular, will certainly be the major focus in his final home game at Carter-Finley. Brilliant throughout his storied career, the ACC's leading passer has somehow taken his own lofty standards to even new heights in NC State's last two games. Against Virginia and Florida State, Rivers completed 57-of-72 passes (79 percent) for 832 yards, eight touchdowns and no interceptions. And lets face it: he hasn't exactly put those numbers up against the sisters of the poor.

Can he keep it up?

"I hope so," Amato said. "A lot depends on the running back. I think that's a big factor in all this."

The running back, T.A. McLendon, left Saturday night's game in the third quarter with what was described as a bruised shoulder. More information on his status will likely be available on Monday.

With a win against the Terps, NC State would pretty much assure itself of either a return trip to the Gator Bowl or perhaps even an invitation to the Atlanta, Georgia Peach Bowl, which will be played on January 2nd of 2004. Now that Florida State has clinched the automatic BCS invitation that goes with the ACC title, the Gator Bowl is next in line to decide which school it will bring to Jacksonville, Florida for New Year's Day.

"We're probably involved with every conference bowl tie-up there is, from the Gator to Boise (the Humanitarian Bowl)," Amato said. "It all depends on what happens in this game and what happens in all the other games still left in the league."

NC State is one of three league teams with three losses, joining Georgia Tech (4-3) and Clemson (5-3). Maryland currently sits alone in second place with a 4-2 mark.

In reflecting back on Saturday night's second overtime period against Florida State, Amato said he had no regrets on his decision to go for a first down in fourth and one at the 16-yard line instead of kicking a field goal. The fourth down play in question resulted in an incomplete pass, meaning the Pack came away with no points on its possession in the second extra period. Florida State went on to score a touchdown to win the game 50-44.

After NC State scored a touchdown to pull within 44-43 in the first overtime period, Amato was asked by his offensive coaches if he was interested in going for the win right there and then with a two-point conversion.

"They always ask me whenever we score," Amato explained. "I didn't even hesitate. I thought about it going into the overtime. The obvious thing there is to go for one and let's go to another overtime and see what happens. I didn't have any reservations about going for one. I thought we had a chance in the red zone to maybe hold them to a field goal. In the red zone, it seemed like we had a better chance of stopping them because there wasn't as much field; we could press them a little more and you didn't have to worry about that 80-yard touchdown pass."
 

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Plays:
PACK Pick (-105) 5 Units
Oklahoma -19 (-105)
OK/TT OVER 75.5 (-108)
OSU +7 bought hook (-115)
Purdue -24.5 (-107)
UNC -6 (-106)
Pack/MD OVER 55 (-108)

Added Teaser:nono: :

Wager Type: FB Mixed 13pt 4 Team Teaser (4 team) ties push
Wager Status: Pending
Risk / To Win Amount: 130.00 / 100.00 (USD)
Date Accepted: 18-November-2003
Time Accepted: 2:36:54 PM (Pacific)

1
Wager Type: Spread
Outcome: Pending
Sport/Period: NCAA Football / Game
Teams: Pittsburgh U vs Temple
Game Date: 22-November-2003
Wager Line: Pittsburgh U -2 -104

2
Wager Type: Spread
Outcome: Pending
Sport/Period: NCAA Football / Game
Teams: Purdue vs Indiana
Game Date: 22-November-2003
Wager Line: Purdue -11.5 -107

3
Wager Type: Spread
Outcome: Pending
Sport/Period: NCAA Football / Game
Teams: Maryland vs NC State
Game Date: 22-November-2003
Wager Line: NC State +12 -102

4
Wager Type: Spread
Outcome: Pending
Sport/Period: NCAA Football / Game
Teams: Oklahoma vs Texas Tech
Game Date: 22-November-2003
Wager Line: Oklahoma -6.5 -107
 

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Here's to You, 'Philip'
By Matt Lail

Columnist StateFans.com


What else can be written about Philip Rivers that hasn't been already?



Everyone knows what he has or will have accomplished as NC State's quarterback when his college career finally ends. Here is just a very small sampling:

- An NCAA-record 50 straight starts
- Second all-time in NCAA passing yards (With over 12,700, he'll finish his career second behind Ty Detmer)
- 90 career touchdown passes (seventh in NCAA history)
- Two straight wins over Florida State (and a 2-2 record against the Noles)
- A 3-1 record vs. UNC
- And perhaps his most memorable moment, last season's 28-6 whipping of Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl.

Florida State Coach Bobby Bowden, a man who has seen his share of remarkable signal-callers in his time, stated that Rivers is a better quarterback than Dan Marino or Danny Wuerffel. NC State Coach Chuck Amato calls Rivers the best player ever to don the Red & White, and he's probably right. Rivers is perhaps the most beloved football player in NC State's history, surpassing the likes of Torry Holt and Roman Gabriel along the way. In fact, Rivers is probably more on par in NCSU athletics lore with basketball legend David Thompson - a player that even opposing fans will rave about having watched for years to come.

The love that Wolfpack fans feel for Rivers is due to a myriad of reasons, and not solely based on his on-the-field accomplishments. Fans love his unashamed deep Southern accent. They love that he's a family guy who married his high school sweetheart. They love that he's a family guy who puts his football "family" above himself and enjoys being just one of the guys. Fans feel that, despite that fact that he grew up in Alabama, Philip Rivers is one of them; he could just have easily "growed up" in Goldsboro, Rocky Mount, Clemmons, Flat Rock or anywhere else in North Carolina. To Pack fans, Rivers isn't Rivers - he's 'Philip.'

Despite having better numbers than basically ever other "leading" Heisman candidate out there, Rivers' chance at college football's top award probably went out the window (unfairly) after the Pack's overtime loss at Ohio State on September 13. But that in no way diminishes what Rivers has meant to NC State football and NC State University. Pack fans know how great he has been. If he's not the best player in ACC history, he's got to be among the top three or four - and that's without winning an ACC title, a Heisman Trophy and by earning just one league Player of the Year award (which is sure to be his this time around).

On Saturday, Rivers and the rest of the State seniors will make one last appearance at Carter-Finley Stadium. If the world were fair, Rivers would pass for 400 yards and a handful of touchdowns, while running for another as the Pack rolls to victory. But, as we have seen throughout the Rivers Era, sometimes life isn't fair; instead of a final game against a patsy, Rivers will face a determined and talented Maryland Terrapins team in his last regular-season college football game. A loss would not be unheard of, though a win plus one final outstanding performance could land "Philip" in New York for the Heisman presentation. He at least deserves the trip.

While NC State hasn't exactly produced a multitude of Heisman-caliber players in the past, you'd be hard-pressed to find a group of fans that wants one of their own to win the award more than State fans do this year. And that's not because they want Philip Rivers to have a jinxed and cursed NFL career, but because they genuinely want something great to happen to a genuinely great person and player. To Pack fans, no one is more deserving of the sport's top honor.

It seems that very few know exactly what the criteria is for Heisman voting. Regardless, if it's for the best individual player in college football or the player who is most important to his team, Philip's impact should not be overlooked. But it will be, and when it's all said and done, No. 17 will just say "shucks," smile and then call to congratulate the winner. Then he'll probably get back to playing with his daughter.

'Now' ACC Standings

1. Florida State: ACC = 'Always Chopped Conference'.
2. NC State: Once again, the Wolfpack comes up just short - literally - to a national power.
3. Maryland: Terps have their eyes on Jacksonville - but must first go through Raleigh.
4. Clemson: Tigers don't look like the same team that was thumped by Wake Forest just a couple of weeks ago.
5 (tie). Georgia Tech and Virginia: Though schizoid, Tech has been a nice surprise this season, while UVa must be the most disappointing team in the ACC.
7. Wake Forest: Jim Grobe had Coach of the Year honors locked up just a few weeks ago. But then again, Wake seemingly had a bowl bid locked up too.
8 (tie). Duke and North Carolina: Saturday, Kenan Stadium, Chapel Hill: for all the marbles.

'Later' ACC Standings

1. Florida State
2. Miami
3 (tie). NC State and Virginia Tech
5. Maryland
6. Clemson
7 (tie). Boston College, Georgia Tech and Virginia
10. Wake Forest
11 (tie). Duke and North Carolina

This Week's Predictions:

Duke at North Carolina: Duke has two major things going for it which could result in a win over the hated Tar Heels: Motivation (the players want Interim Coach Ted Roof to get the full-time gig) and Revenge (Duke hasn't defeated UNC in a dozen years). More importantly, the Devils may actually have the better team. But then again, that's like saying Moe was the more annoying Stooge. Duke 17, North Carolina 10

Georgia Tech at Virginia: Georgia Tech should have more motivation to win, but Charlottesville is a difficult place to get a road 'W.' Virginia 27, Georgia Tech 21

Clemson at South Carolina: On one side, you have perhaps the best college football fans in the nation. Gamecocks fans repeatedly fill Williams-Bryce Stadium - even though the Fightin' Chickens are rarely that good. On the other side ... well, let's just say that many Clemson boosters may get their wish, and Tommy Bowden may be gone after this season - despite a win over Florida State and an upper-echelon finish in the ACC and a fifth straight bowl trip. Clemson 38, South Carolina 27

Maryland at NC State: This one was many folks' preseason ACC Game of the Year. And it may be, but it will be tough to top Florida State's win over NC State last Saturday. Philip Rivers has never beaten Maryland, and Ralph Friedgen (as UM's coach) has never lost to NC State. Nothing lasts forever. NC State 44, Maryland 38

Also ... Miami 28, Rutgers 14
Virginia Tech 27, Boston College 10


Prognostication Record This Year (as far as picking the correct winner goes): 50-18
 

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A Wolfpacker's Perspective
By Christopher Brewster

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I AM NOT A SENTIMENTAL GUY by nature. To me, ?Beaches? is a slap-stick comedy and ?Bambi? is a promotional video for the NRA, but this Saturday will be an emotional day at my house.



As every college football fan knows, this Saturday?s game against Maryland will showcase Philip Rivers? final performance within the grateful confines of Carter-Finley stadium.
For four years- the entire Chuck Amato era- we have watched Philip play QB for the Wolfpack; Rivers will be starting his NCAA record 50th consecutive game against the Terps. That?s just stupid how ironman that is. Philip has gone an entire presidential term without missing a start. My paperboy hasn?t even been able to get my paper to me 50 consecutive days in a row. For four wonderful years it has been a foregone conclusion as to who would be under center when the Pack took the field. We have one more regular season game to say that.

But this Saturday also marks the final game for another Wolfpack legend, wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery. Cotchery has been as clutch as any receiver in college football and deserves that kind of recognition. Jerricho has caught a pass in 37 consecutive games (and that streak will extend to 38 consecutive games somewhere around the 14:52 point in the first quarter this Saturday if we get the ball first). At the start of the season there was a lot of talk as to who would be the team's leading receiver and go-to-guy with all the talented newcomers, but once again, at the end of the season there is no question?it?s Jerricho Cotchery.

The Rivers/Cotchery tandem will be forever etched in my mind with the fond likes of ?Fire and Ice? and ?Whittenberg and Lowe,? etc. And as sorry as I am to see it coming to an end, I?m almost just as proud to be able to say, ?back when I saw Rivers and Cotchery play at N.C. State?? They are what college football is all about. And their legend will grow bigger with every single ounce of hops I ingest in the upcoming years, too. By 2010 Rivers will have played QB with a blue ox by his side and Cotchery will have been faster than ten steam-engines. I still tell anyone who?ll listen about the time Levar Fisher rode his horse, Widow-Maker, into Doak-Campbell and led the Wolfpack to a victory over Florida State.

I don?t know Philip Rivers personally, but I feel like I do after cheering for him for four years. So on Saturday, around 7:00 EST, I will raise my O?Douls (I?m still on medi-freakin?-cation) and give a tearful salute to the greatest player in ACC history and his favorite target (and to the other Wolfpack seniors, as well).

NOW TO PUT SOME LAME ARGUMENTS TO BED. Philip Rivers doesn?t deserve to be on the fringe of Heisman trophy discussions, he deserves to be the focal point. Arguments can be made for Oklahoma quarterback Jason White (he?s the QB of the best team in the country) or for Pittsburgh wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald (he?s the most talented athlete in the country) but to make a case for Ole Miss QB Eli Manning or Texas Tech QB B.J. Symons is ludicrous.

The facts speak for themselves: Philip Rivers is 2nd in the nation with a 169.8 rating, 2nd in the nation in passing yards (3740), 2nd in the nation in passing efficiency (72.3%). Rivers completes 72.3 percent of his passes. I can?t even get 72.3 percent of a forkful of peas into my mouth. Philip has also thrown 29 touchdowns to 6 interceptions.

Jason White leads the nation with a 174.4 rating, but is 8th in passing yards and is 12th in completion percentage (65.1). He has 36 touchdowns to 6 interceptions.

John Lee Malvo has a stronger case than Eli Manning. Manning is the 18th rated passer (149.8), 14th in passing yards (2881) and has a 62.8 completion percentage. He has thrown 23 touchdowns to 8 interceptions. Manning?s numbers are good but pale in comparison to Rivers?. If you replace Manning?s name on his jersey with Trumble or Johanson, he comes no closer to the Heisman trophy than a defensive tackle for Boise State.

And finally we have B.J. Symons. Symons has the 13th best passer rating with 155.0, but leads the nation with an astounding 5106 passing yards (due to Texas Tech?s dominant running game and stifling defense, to be sure) but he only completes 64.9% of his passes. He?s thrown a mind-blowing 47 touchdowns to go with a plethora of interceptions (16). He has also thrown 613 passes this season (double of most quarterbacks). Symons isn?t a quarterback, he?s a pitcher.

As you can see, the numbers don?t lie. Rivers should not only be invited to New York as a Heisman finalist, but he should be given the award along with a packet of Sweet And Low and an apology from the media for not giving him more praise.

THE OTHER ARGUMENT THAT MUST BE PUT DOWN is whether or not TCU deserves a BCS bid if they go undefeated. Anyone who believes they do is either an idiot or a malcontent and either way should not be listened to. Here?s TCU?s schedule: Tulane, Navy, Vanderbilt, Arizona, Army, South Florida, UAB, Houston, Louisville (#25), Cincinnati, Southern Miss and SMU.

Well congratulations to TCU for beating those powerhouses. I?m surprised they don?t have any vocational schools on their schedule (or is UAB a vocational school?). Vanderbilt and Arizona are the Dukes of the SEC and the Pac 10, disrespectfully. N.C. State caught a lot of crap for playing seven bowl teams last year, imagine if we played TCU?s schedule and were undefeated at this point (which I would whole-heartedly expect to be, mind you). We would be laughed at. And rightfully so. And so should TCU. TCU deserves the Las Vegas Bowl or the Motor City Madman Bowl, or whatever Conference USA gets and should shut up about it.

If TCU can be rewarded for being undefeated against those jokers, than NCSU should drop out of the ACC, join the Sunbelt Conference and open some serious whoopass on the masses. Why play contenders when you can feast on pretenders?

Now Marshall and Northern Illinois are exceptions (kind of) to this. Marshall goes on the road each year to play teams like Miami, Tennessee, Kansas State, N.C. State, etc and NIU played Alabama and Maryland this year, so at least they?re trying. They still have the Buffalos and the directional colleges (Northern, Southwest, Eastern, etc) on their schedule, but they partially make up for it with the tougher games.

But even this doesn?t make it right to include these schools into the BCS mix. Granted, you want to win every game on your schedule but some teams are definitely harder than others. So if you only play one or two ?tough? games a year, they become your Super Bowl and you play the game of your life. Whereas Maryland is NIU?s shot at the national stage, NIU is Maryland?s ?gimme? game. Maryland has to worry about the Florida States of the world next week, whereas NIU has to prepare for the fierce Western Michigans in their future. It?s not equal and that needs to be recognized. Strength of schedule is there for a reason and if Kansas State catches flack for their schedule (which includes Texas and Oklahoma, etc), imagine if they played Bowling Green?s.

Before I go, I want to give one final ?thank you? to Philip Rivers and the other Wolfpack seniors for all they?ve given to N.C. State and for making my Saturdays (and occasional Thursdays) something to look forward to. Good luck, guys. Now take it to Maryland and let?s go bowling!

Stay safe and stay tuned?
 

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Pack must beat Terps to go Gator




BY AL FEATHERSTON : The Herald-Sun
afeatherston@heraldsun.com
Nov 18, 2003 : 11:43 pm ET

RALEIGH -- Gator Bowl president Rick Catlett didn't hedge when asked about Saturday's N.C. State-Maryland game at Carter-Finley Stadium.

"I would view that as an elimination game as far as we are concerned," Catlett said.

Peach Bowl president Gary Stokan will be on hand to watch the Pack play the Terps, but his bowl won't be able to make its choice until the Gator makes up its mind. That could be as early as Sunday, which would allow the Peach selection to be as early as the bowl's scheduled meeting Monday.

"Rick, [Tangerine Bowl executive director] Tom Mickle, the ACC and I are all working together," Stokan said. "We want to help the Continental Tire Bowl and the Tangerine Bowl. Whatever we can do to move the process forward, we'll do."

Catlett explained that his scouts will be watching two games this weekend in an attempt to determine the ACC representative that will play in Jacksonville on New Year's Day at 12:30 p.m. In addition to the N.C. State-Maryland matchup, Gator Bowl scouts will be watching Clemson's regular season finale at South Carolina.

"For us, that's a very, very important game," Catlett said. "Clemson needs to win that game."

If the Tigers beat the Gamecocks, they would finish the season at 8-4 (5-3 in the ACC). If N.C. State knocks off the Terps, the Pack would also finish 8-4 (5-3 in the ACC).

So which would the Gator prefer?

"Obviously, that's a tough choice," Catlett said. "We've moved our next meeting to Sunday morning and we'd talk about that."

N.C. State has several things going for it. The Pack sold 40,000 tickets to last year's Gator Bowl matchup with Notre Dame. And whatever bowl N.C. State plays in, it will be the last college game for Philip Rivers -- which is a selling point for TV.

On the other hand, does the Gator Bowl want the Pack back for a second straight year?

"We've had back-to-back games with the same team before," Catlett said. "That doesn't seem to be a drawback if the team finishes strong. There's been a small dropoff, but not huge."

Catlett said that unless Maryland beats N.C. State on Saturday, the Gator Bowl could very well make its decision at Sunday morning's meeting. If the Terps win at Carter-Finley, the Gator will wait to make sure that Maryland finishes the season with a win at Wake Forest on Nov. 29.

Maryland is probably the Gator's prime target at the moment, since the Terps still have a chance to finish 9-3 and a clear-cut second in the ACC at 6-2.

But the Terps have to win in Raleigh.

"The loser of this weekend's game is probably eliminated," Catlett said.

The ACC's No. 2 team will meet the No. 2 team from the Big East in the Gator Bowl. Earlier in the week, Catlett told the Florida Times-Union that Virginia Tech was the bowl's first choice, if the Hokies win out to finish 10-2. Otherwise, West Virginia is the bowl's second choice, while Miami and Pittsburgh remain possibilities.

Once the Gator Bowl makes its choice, the Peach Bowl will be able to make its pick. The Atlanta-based bowl is moving from its normal New Year's Eve slot to 4:30 p.m. Jan. 2.

Stokan said his scouts would not only be at N.C. State-Maryland and Clemson-South Carolina, but also in Charlottesville for Georgia Tech-Virginia.

"Anybody that's right now potentially bowl eligible are still on our list," Stokan said.

Realistically, the Peach Bowl is likely to make its ACC pick from the same three teams that the Gator is considering -- N.C. State, Maryland or Clemson.

"All three teams would be very welcome," Stokan said.

Stokan, a former N.C. State basketball coach, admitted that the Wolfpack would be an attractive choice.

"North Carolina State is always welcome at the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl," Stokan said. "They have been in our game more than any other team. They always travel well and they always give us great games."

The Peach Bowl matches the ACC's No. 3 team with the fifth pick from the SEC. Stokan's scouts will be at Saturday's LSU at Mississippi showdown. Florida, LSU and Arkansas are also possibilities.

But the Peach Bowl's president didn't deny rumors that his bowl would like to match N.C. State against Ole Miss -- a matchup between Rivers and Mississippi quarterback Eli Manning.

"Manning and Rivers are two of the five players who will be invited to New York for the Heisman ceremony," Stokan said. "It would be a great matchup. Obviously, the score would be 100-98 in six hours and eight overtimes."
 

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Gary Hahn's Scouting Report: Maryland
Terps and Wolfpack clash Saturday at Carter-Finley.


Nov. 20, 2003

NC STATE (7-4, 4-3) vs. MARYLAND (7-3, 4-2)

DATE: Saturday, November 22, 2003

TIME: Kickoff: 3:30 p.m. (EST) Carter-Finley Stadium, Raleigh, NC (53,800)

RADIO: Wolfpack Radio Network. AIRTIME: 2:30 p.m. (EST)

TELEVISION: ABC (Regional)

OPPONENT---- The game was played in a 40 mph wind, and the temperature dipped near freezing at Byrd Stadium, but Maryland's ground game was red hot. Josh Allen, Maryland's "other" running back, rushed for a career-high 257 yards and two touchdowns and the Terps dominated Virginia 27-17 on Thursday night, November 13th, before a crowd of 51,027 and a national cable TV audience.

Bruce Perry, the sixth-leading rusher in Maryland history, was out due to a severe ankle sprain, but he wasn't missed. Allen carried the load all by himself, running for 154 yards in the first half, when the Terrapins scored on four of five possessions to take a 24-7 lead.





Allen, a sophomore, carried 38 times. The 257-yard effort ranked third in school history and was nearly twice his previous career high of 136 yards. In large part, Allen's performance was a reflection of Maryland's domination of the line of scrimmage. Consistently, the Terps offensive line opened big holes between the tackles. That's where Allen the picked up the majority of his yards.

Virginia quarterback Matt Schaub ran for a touchdown, threw for a score and nearly brought the Cavaliers (5-5, 3-4) back in the second half. He passed for 186 yards to overtake Shawn Moore as the school's career leader in passing yardage. Schaub's 14-yard touchdown strike to Alvin Pearman got the Cavaliers to 24-14 with six minutes left in the third quarter. Later, he directed a 46-yard drive that produced a Connor Hughes field goal with 9:15 left.

However, after Allen's 19-yard run produced a first down at the Virginia 29, the Terps were able to seal the game late in the fourth quarter with a Nick Novak 45-yard field goal.

The Terrapins outgained Virginia 469-to-294 and outrushed the Cavaliers 278-to-108. They also controlled the ball for almost 11 minutes more than UVA. Quarterback Scott McBrien was 14-of-21 through the air for 191 yards and a touchdown for Maryland. Schaub finished 13-of-26 with one scoring strike.

Maryland is a dangerous team for several reasons. It can run the ball, stop the run, covers the pass well and has positive momentum. The Terps have won 7 of their last 8 games. The only blemish in the current stretch was a 7-3 loss at Georgia Tech on October 23rd.

Offensively, the Terps have balance, but running the football is their bread and butter. The Terps run almost 61% of the time and have the No. 2 rushing game in the ACC (behind Wake Forest) averaging nearly 182 yards a contest. The starting offensive line averages 6-5, 305 pounds and has remained intact all season with the exception of right guard Lamar Bryant (6-3, 313, Sr.) who has started the last 7 games.

With Perry banged up, Allen (5-11, 207) has become Maryland's leading ground gainer (718 yards, 8 TDs). He's averaging an impressive 5.0 yards per carry and is fifth in the ACC with 72 rushing yards per game. Perry, who has played in 7 games, has 389 rushing yards and 3 TDs.

McBrien (6-0, 182 ) looks to be playing his most consistent football of the season. He has a strong arm, throws the out and deep ball well and has completed 55 percent of his passes. He's third in the ACC in passing efficiency, sixth in passing yards per game (185) and in total offense (205). The senior can also run (196 yards, 4 TDs) which adds another dimension to his game, especially when he's called on to execute option plays.

The major targets for McBrien are Steve Suter (5-10, 192, Jr.) and Latrez Harrison (6-2, 223, Sr.). Harrison, a former quarterback, has caught 33 passes for nearly 500 yards and a team-leading 5 TDs. Suter, who has 4.3 speed, has 23 catches and a touchdown.

Defensively, Maryland is very talented and experienced. There is only one underclassmen among the defensive starters. That's sophomore linebacker D'Quell Jackson who leads the team with 104 tackles. Ends Kevin Eli (6-4, 268, Jr.) and Shawne Merriman (6-4, 253) and tackle Randy Starks (6-4, 305, Jr.) have combined for 17.5 sacks. Starks is this week's ACC Defensive Lineman of the Week after recording 8 tackles (3 for loss) and a sack against Virginia.

It would be tough to find a more experienced secondary in college football. Cornerback Domonique Foxworth is the youngest of the group. He's a junior who has been a starter since late in his freshman year. All that experience makes for outstanding pass coverage and the Terps lead the ACC in pass defense (186 ypg.) and have allowed only 10 touchdowns through the air while intercepting 9 passes. Foxworth has three of those picks. The Terps pass rush is No. 2 in the ACC with 29 sacks.

Maryland leads the ACC and is 4th in the nation in scoring defense (14.7), and also tops the conference in total defense (297 ypg.). Against the run, Maryland is second in the ACC (111). Only two opponents (Florida State and North Carolina) have scored more than 20 points on the Terrapins defense this year.

Suter anchors the special teams. He's the No. 3 punt returner in the ACC (8.0 ypr.) and is sixth in kickoff returns (23.8 ypr.). During his career, Suter has returned five punts for touchdowns including a 75-yarder this season against The Citadel. Nick Novak (6-0, 183, Jr.), a semifinalist for the Lou Groza Award, is 20-of-25 on field goal attempts with a long of 54 yards. He's 9-of-13 beyond 40 yards this season. Redshirt freshman, Adam Podlesh, is averaging 42.6 yards a punt, second-best in the ACC. Maryland's net punting average of 39.4 is ranked No. 14 nationally.

The Terrapins have beaten NC State three years in-a-row, but all three games have been nailbiters decided by a total of only 14 points.

INJURIES--NC State: OT Chris Colmer-Out, Parsonage Turner Syndrome; WR Sterling Hicks-Out, torn ACL; DE Renaldo Moses-Out, torn ACL & MCL; OG Ashley Wingate-Out, broken leg; TB T.A. McLendon-Probable, shoulder sprain. Maryland:

TB Bruce Perry-Probable, ankle sprain; WR Latrez Harrison-Probable, knee; LB/DE Shawne Merriman-Questionable, concussion.
 

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Chuck Amato's Press Conference Quotes
Wolfpack coach prepares team for regular season finale against Maryland.


Nov. 18, 2003

NC State Head Coach Chuck Amato
November 17, 2003 Press Conference

On the three classic games that NC State has been in this year:

"We sure have. There might have been a fourth or a fifth too. That's the way it goes though. Two of those were against two of the greatest programs in America. One against the defending national champions in front of 105,000 people and it took three overtimes and then we lose the game. Then in front of 85,000 people against a team that might have the best program in the past 15 years in America and took them to two overtimes before losing the football game. It still hurts. We're not at the point where we feel that a loss can be good. They hurt. It's just as bad as getting beat 70-0. There are no moral victories. That's why it's so funny when you people say we have ugly wins and good loses. I mean that doesn't make sense."





On lack of success against Maryland:

"We haven't beat Maryland since I got here. We could have very easily won every one. The first one took two overtimes to lose. The second one was the year they went to the Orange Bowl and it went down to the very, very end. The same thing happened last year. All those are things of the past. They're coming here this year. We've got to play another really good game because they're playing at the top level."

On the reward of finishing second in the ACC:

"There is no doubt that what we've been through this year that it would be great to finish second in this great league. There is no doubt about it. That's what we're fighting for and that's what they're fighting for."

On Maryland's scoring propensity:

"They do put up points as fast as anybody. That's the sign of a good team. Good teams improve as the season goes on."

On what he'll say to the seniors before their last home game:

"I'm not very good at these kind of talks with the seniors because I get too sentimental. Especially this year because a good majority of these seniors came here when I did. It meant so much. This is really going to be tough. That's the thing, I shouldn't have to tell them how much they mean to this program. You guys ought to. You guys owe it to these people (seniors). They're the ones that got this thing going. You should go out there and bust your fanny to help them go out a winner."

Who will do the placekicking this week?

"We're going to record all of their kicks this week, just like we do every week, but you know what? Kickers and quarterbacks are always under the microscope. They have one bad game and everyone wants to fire them. An offensive lineman or a defensive lineman, a cornerback, a safety, a running back are not put under that scrutiny. You know if we were going to fire everybody that made a turnover, we wouldn't have a tailback, one wide receiver, we wouldn't have a tight end. We would have one heck of a thing to do there. Everybody is entitled to have bad games. We're going to analyze it. Adam Kiker has done an awful lot of good things for this university since he's been here. Yes, he missed two big kicks the other day, but I look at the missed field goal and they (Florida State) missed a field goal because it was blocked so that's a push. He missed that extra point though and we always say that we've got to make those extra points. Those have got to be automatic. If our offense would have made a first down then he wouldn't have even had to try that field goal. There's a lot of ways that you can look at it. It had a little bearing to me with what I did on that fourth and one, but Deraney had already kicked two times and made both of them. He's got a strong leg and if we ever need to try a long field goal, we'll have him take it. We've felt that way all year long.

"It goes back to the point that all I can think about was that Maryland game two years ago when I told those kids in that lockeroom down there on the other end of the stadium that we'd never play another game where we'd play not to lose, as opposed to playing to win. Sooner or later we're going to have to do something like this so I said let's go do this now. We had the ball in the hands of the best quarterback in the country, throwing the ball to one of the best receivers in the country. What better could you ask for?"

On the status of T.A. McLendon's shoulder:

"Well, it's sore. We'll see how practice goes this week."

On Philip Rivers playing his last home game:

"I can't be a wimp and start crying because it's his last game. I might cry on his last snap, but hopefully he'll get 75 or 80 snaps to play before it is the last game. We've known for four years that sooner or later it would be his last game and that all good things come to an end. I remember when I first got here and I would see Jamie Barnette and I would say to him "Are you sure you don't have one more year of elegibility? Are you sure you can't play one more year? C'mon, just one more year." And here this skinny kid from Alabama comes along and look what he's done. He's broken every record in the ACC. That's the neat thing about college football. Is somebody gonna replace Philip Rivers? Well yea, somebody is going to replace him playing quarterback, but are they going to replace what he brings to the table? We'll go out there and judge that based on what the next quarterback does in his first year as to what Philip did in his first year. Our system is in and they've been practicing it and it will be interesting. It's just difficult to know that this youngster came from an 18-year old freshman to a 22-year old senior and all the good things that have happened to him and us because of him being here."

On whether Rivers is getting deserved recognition in Heisman race:

"I'm biased on that, but I don't. I absolutely don't. The Heisman turned into the best football player on the top five, six or seven teams in the country. Now all of a sudden Pittsburgh has three loses, but they're still talking about that young man. He's an awfully good, awfully good player. I told ABC last week that Philip Rivers is the only quarterback in the country that is in the top two, I think, of the four quarterback categories. The only quarterback. So what do you judge them with? To throw for over 400 yards against Florida State, I mean my goodness gracious. You mean to tell me that if we make an extra point and win that football game by one point that he'd be in the Heisman race? C'mon! That is so foolish. Yes, I think it is wrong if he is not invited up there, whether he wins it or not. But that's just the way it is and we all know it. I feel bad for Philip, I really do, because he certainly is deserving.

"He hasn't missed a football game. That game the other day tied him for the most (career) starts with Donovan McNabb from Syracuse and this Saturday he'll break that record with his 50th start. No other quarterback has played more. That's one reason that he's broken a lot of those records, but you know how hard it is for anybody at any position to play in that many games, including the kicker? To start for 50 straight games?"
 

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To the best QB i have ever seen

To the best QB i have ever seen

Nov. 21, 2003




Philip Rivers by Annabelle Vaughan, Assistant Athletics Director for Media Relations

Author's Note: For four years, I have had the privilege of working with Philip Rivers. He's never complained about his responsibilities to the media - no matter how tired, how hot, how cold or how disappointed he's been, he's faced every situation with a positive outlook. In that same time, I've never heard a member of the media complain about him, an even greater accomplishment. Recently, a member of the national member told me, "Philip isn't just the type of person you want your kids to be, he's the type of person you want to be yourself." I agree. Thanks Philip and Tiffany and Halle, for giving so much of yourselves and for making my job so easy. It has been an honor to work with you and to be your friend.





"Who woulda thought....?"

NC State head coach Chuck Amato was standing on the tower high above the practice field on the Tuesday evening before the Pack's trip to Tallahassee, watching the guy wearing #17 direct the team in a drill for what could have been the millionth time in his career. The eyes behind the red Oakley's grew a little misty and his voice trailed off as he repeated, "Who woulda thought...?"

A simple sentiment, but probably one that could be repeated by just about anyone involved with the Wolfpack football program. Who woulda thought that a tall, lanky kid with an Alabama drawl and not-so-much hype coming out of high school, would four years later be considered the greatest player ever to suit up for the Wolfpack? Who woulda thought that a kid who was barely recruited by the schools in his home state would end up being arguably the most powerful offensive force in the 51-year history of the venerable Atlantic Coast Conference? And who woulda thought that the guy listed third on the depth chart heading into his first spring workout would end up starting more games at quarterback than anyone in the history of Division I college football and would become one of the top passers in the history of the college game?

"Who woulda thought...?"

"You should have seen him in his first mat drill," Amato continued with a chuckle. "He had two left feet. And when he threw the football ... Have you ever seen anybody throw a javelin? That's kinda what he looked like."

"Who woulda thought...?"

Saturday will mark the 50th game that Rivers has led the Wolfpack offense as the starting quarterback. No other player in the history of Division I football can claim to have started that many games, much less consecutively. In spite of all the records he holds and the accolades he's won, he quickly replies that this streak is the "neatest."

"Who woulda thought...?"

Even though Amato still chuckles when he remembers his young proteg?'s early endeavors in mat drills, from the first day he was ever asked about his first and only quarterback as a head coach, he always replied that Rivers just had that "It." "I don't know what 'it' is," he said when responding to a question about Rivers in the spring of 2000, "but I know that he's got it."

That "it" may still be difficult to define, because there are so many things that Rivers has. He's the winningest quarterback in the nation, seeking his 34th today against Maryland. He holds every ACC and NC State passing and total offense record for his career and several single season marks as well. He's balanced being an athlete with being a student and with being a husband and father, and has earned success in each of those endeavors.

Who woulda thought that a young man who as a freshman put weights in his shorts so he would weigh in where he thought a starting college quarterback should would one day be mentioned in the same sentence with college football's most prestigious award? That he would be mentioned in newspapers and on networks and on websites whenever folks were discussing the nation's best players?

I'll never forget his first meeting with the media. White tennis shoes, blue jeans on mile-long legs and a nice plaid shirt, looking like everybody's All-American. I remember thinking, "How can this young kid be so poised?" The only thing that gave away any sense of nervousness were his feet, constantly tapping out a drumbeat under the table. As I got to know him better, I realized that the constant motion didn't betray nervousness, but an unbelievable energy and excitement. Four years and countless interviews later, I still see that foot tapping under the table and it makes me smile to realize that the energy and excitement are still there.

Nobody can remember too many stories about Rivers making rookie mistakes in the huddle. From the first day he walked onto the field at Carter-Finley, there was no doubt in anyone's mind that #17 was running the show. He says he's always felt right at home on the field, although he does remember the first time he ran through the fireworks onto the field.

"I remember plain as day. When we went into the lockerroom, everybody wasn't in the stands yet, but when we ran out ... all those people ... I couldn't believe it. I mean, there were a lot of people at my high school games, but this was crazy. We were on defense first in that game, which was good, because I was over on the sidelines just staring."

Four quarters and two overtimes later, Rivers had notched his first win for the Wolfpack, 38-31 over Arkansas State. He threw for 397 yards and three touchdowns that afternoon, but the memory that stands out the most for him is how exciting the crowd was.

"Every game has been exciting," he said. "You would think that after so many, I'd go out there one time and it would be normal. But every time, it still feels that exciting to me. The biggest compliment I get is when somebody stops me and tells me that it seems like I have so much fun out there and I don't play like a robot."

"Who woulda thought...?"

There are so many things that set Philip Rivers apart from other players ... from other quarterbacks ... from other people. On a bus or a sideline full of tough, hard-nosed athletes in the heat of the moment, the only expletive you will ever hear in that now-familiar twang might be "Gawlly" or "Dang" or maybe an occasional "What in the world?" Four years and I've never heard him say anything worse than the time his freshman year when I made the mistake of calling him "Phil." It's "Philip," he said with as much sternness as he could muster. Now, he's known as Phil or "Cheese" by most of his teammates, but always as Philip by his media relations director.

Rivers could never be described as cocky, but he's exuded a quiet confidence from the first day he set foot on the NC State campus as an 18-year-old who had left high school a semester early. And although he never could have dreamed of the pomp and circumstance that would surround him as his career draws to a close, the world "can't" never crossed his mind.

"Did I ever think about the records?" he asked. "Nah, I never thought that far ahead. I didn't really think about any of that stuff. I was too caught up trying to figure out how I was going to get to class at 8:05. But I do remember that people would say 'No freshman quarterback can do this,' and I would think, 'Why?" I've been like that ever since. 'You can't be so-and-so,' 'You can't run that play,' 'You can't do this or can't do that.' And I always thought, 'Why?'"

At times, Rivers' confidence hasn't been quite so quiet. His former teammate Levar Fisher, now a starting linebacker for the Arizona Cardinals, laughs when he remembers his friend's freshman year. "After I got to the league, I was talking to [Julius] Peppers and [Ryan] Sims from Carolina. They said that they would KILL him - knock him on his butt, HARD, and they'd hear this country voice saying, 'You boys can't handle it. You ain't no good.' They said they kept hitting him hard and he would just get up and keep talking trash. They both said they gained a lot of respect for that young kid that day, because he just never gave up."

"Who woulda thought...?" Those two defenders went on to be first-round NFL draft picks, but in college, their rival beat them for the first time in eight years, led by a freshman quarterback with a country drawl.

Fisher also remembers Rivers' first go-round with mat drills. "He might not have been the most coordinated person in the world, but he would just go so hard. I mean, I was supposed to be the stud of the team and after a week, I was sore! But Phil? He just kept going and going."

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That competitive nature that is obvious to anyone who's ever seen him play football, is not characteristic of Philip Rivers the player, but of Philip Rivers the person. During the spring of his sophomore year, the strength and conditioning staff decided to have an early morning competition before school let out for the summer. The offense would go against the defense in several matchups - tug-of-war, keg tossing, sumo wrestling, and a relay to finish off the festivities. The whole team was pretty competitive, but Rivers took it to a whole new level. He spent the whole night before developing strategies, figuring out what personnel should be entered in each event. While everyone else was laughing and cutting up, when the offense would lose an event, his face bore a look of utter disgust. The competition came down to the 4x100 relay. Rivers ran through the infield, screaming at the top of his lungs as his offensive team was defeated.

"He's one of the most competitive guys I've ever met," said Dantonio Burnette, who lined up across from Rivers at linebacker for three years. "Sometimes Phil would take a lick and you could tell that he was hurting real bad, but he'd get up and shake it off. He's not only one of the toughest quarterbacks I've ever seen, he's one of the toughest players I've ever seen. I've seen him take a lot of shots, especially his freshman year, but he'll never lay on the turf."

"Who woulda thought...?"

Rivers' love for the game of football has been well documented. Since he was a little boy, he stood on the sidelines of his dad's high school games, his small face finding a spot between elbows to listen in on the play calls. At halftime, he would stand up with his imaginary baton and direct the high school band. Young Rivers even asked his mother Joan once if when he grew up, he would be able to play football AND direct the band at halftime.

He couldn't wait for the day when he would play for his dad. "After my last high school game, when we lost in the third game of the playoffs, I remember not wanting to leave the lockerroom. We just sat in there bawling our heads off. It was the last time I would ever play for him. We had waited for it and waited for it since I was five and then it was over. And then who would have thought that this would be so good too."

Yes, who woulda thought...?

Now, most of Rivers' Friday nights are spent with his own team, but every once in a while, the schedules don't conflict and he's able to stand in his dad's huddles once again, this time towering over most of the players. He's just as excited when Wakefield High School is listed in the local newspaper's regional rankings as he is when the Pack is listed in the national ones. He's signed responses to fans that write into his website, "Go Wakefield!"

In addition to his love for local high school football, Rivers knows everything there is to know about the college game. He pours over media guides and remembers football facts with the retention rate of a rocket scientist. After countless interviews and television experiences, he still gets excited about ESPN Gameday and still maintains a sense of respect for other college players. It's almost as if he doesn't really realize that he is at their same level or beyond.

A story about Philip Rivers would not be accurate or complete without talking about his family, which he feels is the foundation for any success he has enjoyed. When he signed with NC State, his parents, Steve and Joan, made the decision to leave Alabama to come to North Carolina, bringing his brother Stephen, now 11, and sister Anna, now five. After games, his family would wait patiently outside the interview room, as he has always been the first guy in and the last guy out of the postgame press conferences.

It's a joy to see him greet his family after games and immediately begin discussing every minute detail with his dad. Now Stephen is the face at the elbows, listening and absorbing everything there is to know. (Stephen is already two inches taller than Philip was at his age and his big brother swears he can throw a football 30 yards).

"It's crazy when our family gets together," Rivers continued. "We're all talking 100 miles an hour." He added that it gets so loud and crazy when the Rivers' clan talks about the sport they love so much, no one can get a word in edgewise. "The other night, we were going on and on and my little sister, Anna, couldn't get my attention. Finally, she just yelled out, 'Hey, Cheese!' It was so funny it got all of our attention."

After one game during his freshman year, a beautiful, dark-haired girl waited with the family. Rivers introduced her as his girlfriend, Tiffany Goodwin. The two weren't only high school sweethearts, they were junior high sweethearts. Rivers told me later that when he was just a little boy, he pointed Tiffany out to his mother at a ball game and said, "See her? That's a good girl."

Who woulda thought that "good girl" would end up being his wife so many years later? That spring, he not only asked Tiffany for her hand in marriage, but he also asked her father and one other person - his head coach.

That will always be one of my favorite memories of Philip," laughed Amato. "I always ask him what he would have done if I had said no! But it just shows the type of person he is that he respected his commitment to his team enough to ask me."

It's hard to imagine Philip without Tiffany now. Like his parents, she's not interested in being in the spotlight with her husband, but is content to support him behind the scenes. It's not always easy, between class and weights and film and practice and games, she's spent a lot of time without him, hundreds of miles away from her family and friends in Alabama. But not once have I ever heard her complain. Instead, she talks about how lucky she is to have Philip's family here and how wonderful they are to her. She opens her warm, cozy home to Philip's teammates and friends, even to an occasional television crew or two.

The young couple welcomed Halle into the world on July 6, 2002, with the same aplomb with which he's faced so many other challenges. "I guess I was prepped a little bit with my little sister, but I wasn't ever worried about being a father, just excited." Rivers has frequently been asked whether marriage and fatherhood have made it difficult to handle his other responsibilities. He's always replied with hesitation that his wife and daughter have only enhanced the experience of playing college football. Since Halle's birth he might spend a little less time playing video games and he might show up for press conferences with stains from small fingers on his sleeve, but the responsibilities of fatherhood have not dampened his excitement.

Halle is a good combination of her parents, but she definitely exhibits her father's tenacity. When she was learning to crawl, for some reason she could only master going backwards. Tiffany recognized the frustration and determination of her young daughter when she saw her intended destination getting further away instead of closer. She's seen those same characteristics and that never-give-up attitude from her husband since the day she met him.

Today, Halle will be at midfield with her mama, her grandparents and aunt and uncle as her father enters the field for his last home game. When she gets older, she probably won't remember anything about when her daddy played football for the Wolfpack, but his memories are so special, I'm sure he'll share them with her.

"It's sad, but it's happy at the same time," said Rivers about the prospect of his last home game. "There are so many things that I'll miss, mostly my teammates. The football part has been great, but it's the rides on the bus, the jokes in the lockerroom, the talks in the dining hall, the times in practice when we get on each other - all of those little things that I'll miss so much."

"Being a teammate is something that Phil cherishes a whole lot," Burnette continued. "He takes that relationship very seriously. When Coach Amato came in, the transition was kinda tough on a lot of the guys, but Phil made it easier. I mean, he beat out my best friend for the quarterback position, but you can't find it in you to be mad or jealous at Philip. When you see his level of commitment to his team and his friends and his family, you really see the kind of person he is."

""Who woulda thought...?"



Regardless of the outcome of today's game, this group of Seniors is one of the best ever!

Thank you for putting it all out there every Saturday!
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