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dawgball

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http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2009/tc2009029_333899.htm

While H1-B visas are not perfect, I think it is a bad trend for a country founded on immigration and entreprenuership to blame our economic difficulties on immigrants.

Our policies on immigration need to be updated to be tougher on illegals and more welcoming to those who are here to contribute.

Quote from article:

More than half of Silicon Valley startups were founded by immigrants over the last decade. These immigrant-founded tech companies employed 450,000 workers and had sales of $52 billion in 2005.

That's $52 Billion in one year.
 

gardenweasel

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dawg...who doesn`t believe in "legal" immigration?....it`s the flood of undocumented illegal aliens flooding across our southern border that puts such stress on our economic system....

it`s great to be theoretically liberal and want to throw open the doors to every single poor person that wants to come into the country... it worked in the early to mid 1900`s...but those were different times...

it`s just not realistic.....it`s not economically feasible....a nation has to have borders...it has to control immigration...

we`re in bad shape...expanding the welfare rolls with guatemala`s and mexico`s uneducated isn`t good for america...we`re strapped already..

disease..phoenix has turned into the #2 kidnapping captal of the world...gangs...welfare...hospitals folding..healthcare system overburdened.....cheap labor undermining american workers...and on and on...

look at california...$42 billion shortfall in no small part due to illegal immigration...

do you have some personal stake in this issue?...you seem to want to suspend rational logic when you address this issue...

seriously...i`m not trying to bust your balls...just don`t understand why you don`t understand the strain illiegal immigration is putting on an economy that`s alreay on life support...

if the government were to build the damn fence(a REAL fence) from the gulf of mexico to the pacific ocean and take border security seriously... deport all the criminals...i think most americans would be willing to go along with some type of path to citizenship for the rest of them...

as smurphy would like to believe,this is not about anybody being biased against "brown" people....
it`s about sovereignty, national security, crime , education, health care & economics......

theres a realistic middle ground here...

you can`t just throw the doors open..and leave `em open....:shrug:
 

StevieD

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I think we should all Obama why there is not a few billion put aside in the stimulus package for a boarder patrol or a fence or something?:mad:
 

deadeye

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fence

fence

i'm not a rocket scientist but if they put up a tiny wall won't they just go around it?bush already left those 2 agents out to dry. really pissed me off.
 

gardenweasel

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i'm not a rocket scientist but if they put up a tiny wall won't they just go around it?bush already left those 2 agents out to dry. really pissed me off.

i was talking about a real barrier....

btw...ramos and campeon were released today....but for some reason,the government won`t allow them to speak with the media until the actual date of their sentence commutation expires( i believe march 20th)...their on home detention until then....

i don`t really understand why the gov`t is curtailing their freedom of speech until then...prolly because they have some "interesting" things to say....

this is what it`s come to... :nooo:

a travesty i place directly on bush`s shoulders......
 
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