What a bore: We're about to hold political conventions again. Why?

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August 26, 2012 12:32 am

By David M. Shribman / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
On Tuesday evening, the circus becomes a carnival. Two presidential nominees whose identities have been known for months, along with running mates whose names will be no mystery, already are streaming into Southern cities for sweet tea and the sweet serenades of the faithful.
We call it a national political convention. I call it a waste of time and money.
This of course is treason to my tribe, political writers who love these quadrennial assemblies. And in truth, I enjoyed them in my years as a political correspondent, a time when the phrase "social media" meant the opening-night press party, which, by the way, usually was full of twits, not tweets.
But not one decision of consequence was made in the 11 conventions I covered, though plenty of good meals were consumed, especially in Chicago, host to 26 of them, including Theodore Roosevelt's Bull Moose convention 100 years ago this month. My guess is that the same will occur in Tampa this week, where massive quantities of the regional classic Sopa de Garbanzo will be gulped down.
But before I launch into my quadrennial ritual, arguing that the conventional convention needs to be overhauled if not junked, let me concede that modern conventions did have some important moments, though they were mostly speeches by people who were not, not yet, or no longer candidates for president.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy's 1980 vow that "the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die" remains one of the great rallying cries of liberalism. Gov. Mario M. Cuomo's 1984 exhortation that America was more a "Tale of Two Cities" than a "Shining City on a Hill'' is an expression of conscience that haunts us still. Barack Obama's 2004 statement that "there's not a liberal America and a conservative America" helped catapult him to the presidency. And Gov. Sarah Palin's 2008 trumpet summons to conservatism still echoes across the country.
But these are just a few moments -- in truth, just a few sentences --in a cascade of words and showmanship that these events produce every political cycle. That's not counting Barry Goldwater's "Extremism in the defense of liberty" remark in 1964, which pretty much ended his campaign right there in San Francisco's old Cow Palace.
The original purpose of conventions was to nominate a president, construct a platform, provide a forum for the faithful to meet, exchange views and send the party nominee off to the general election on an emotional and rhetorical high.
But increasingly these events have become television shows, and not particularly riveting ones. Because this year's nominees are especially accomplished control freaks, don't expect any spontaneity -- and (caveat emptor) be suspicious that any outburst of spontaneity you see on the platform is itself scripted. Yes, they are that cynical.
I'm trying to think of an actual moment of suspense at a modern political convention, and I've come up with only two, both momentous in 1980 but barely historical asterisks today: Would Ronald Reagan invite former President Gerald R. Ford to join him on the GOP ticket as kind of a co-president? Would, a few weeks later, Ted Kennedy, defeated in his challenge of a sitting president, hold his hand aloft with President Jimmy Carter after the latter's acceptance speech?
The truth is that there has been more mystery in the last 32 days of the National League Central Division race than there has been in the last 32 years of national political conventions. The only attraction for this week: Rep. Paul Ryan's national TV debut. There was a time, of course, when a political convention was the very opposite of what we will see the Republicans do this week and the Democrats next week. It was only 60 years ago that a party gathered with no real idea of its nominee and eventually needed more than one ballot to decide.
But hold it: I actually just typed, without apparent shame, the phrase "only 60 years ago," in reference to the three ballots it required the Democrats to deliver their 1952 presidential nomination to Adlai Stevenson. What other institution besides American politics has made a meaningless process the centerpiece of its activity for six decades?
To be sure, presidential candidates have used national political conventions to introduce big concepts. Franklin D. Roosevelt did that in 1932 with the New Deal, and John F. Kennedy did it in 1960 with the New Frontier. That was 80 years ago and 52 years ago, respectively. Is Ford still selling the Model B? Is General Motors still pushing the Chevrolet Bel Air four-door sedan?
Time for a makeover, which is why the Democrats (and, because of storm threats, the Republicans, too) have shorn one day off their proceedings, to the great relief of all Americans, or at least to the few who are paying attention to these sorts of things.
The bureaucrats need to release their stranglehold on the conventions and to recognize that the portraits in faux unity that these events project alienate rather than allure viewers. (They need, too, to answer one of the fundamental, enduring questions in American politics: Why do people wear stupid hats at conventions?) That said, there may be some redeeming features of these events, and one of them is a fast-disappearing feature of American life: the ritual.
"Individuals have always used ceremonies to mark significant passages in their lives: christenings, bar mitzvahs, graduations, weddings, funerals," the Columbia University historian Alan Brinkley wrote in an essay about the meaning of political conventions. "Nations need ceremonies to mark the course of their lives too. And conventions are among the few ceremonies Americans have ever had (perhaps the only one they have now) to celebrate the process of politics and to make it seem an activity worthy of attention and concern."
Fair enough. The convention remains part of our politics because there always is the chance that no candidate will be the clear winner of the primary and caucus process and a means of adjudicating an impasse may be necessary. And an acceptance speech is one of the established set-pieces of American democracy, a chance (almost always foregone, but a chance nonetheless) to shape the American conversation. Those may be enough to make the political convention deserve to survive. But if these conventions are worth salvaging, then surely they are worth changing. The year 2016 would be a good time to start. Happy days will then be here again.

David M. Shribman is executive editor of the Post-Gazette (dshribman@post-gazette.com, 412-263-1890).

First Published August 26, 2012 12:00 am
 

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I have a friend, sort of, Yes, I have friends, some :00hour

whose family is deeply involved in Chicago Politics.
He and I are examples of EXTREME POLITICAL DIFFERENCES, yet remained friends despite our opposing Political Views. He worked for me for 2 years, after hours I would hang out with him and "The Village Idiots" in his neighborhood, he was the Village Elder, yet his inteligence was far superior to those who lurked around his garage.

At his garage we would repair furniture, made pretty good scratch at it too. Around 7 pm the Village Idiots began their pilgrimage to visit the Elder for his sage advice on just about anything from drug addiction, ( he used to be a heroin addict ) to how to boil the perfect egg. None of these clowns had money and were always mooching food, beer, weed, smokes.....

The Elder, like the a majority of the Idiots came from very affluent families, but they too were a bunch of drug addicts, drunks, thieves and social misfits.

The Elder,

he was way above average inteligence, but never really put his abilities to proper use. He is an excellent musician, he even won a "grammy" for his matierial. He won this award in Prague, and his songs are being recorded by a band using his Band's name. He went to Prague to receive the award and cash, yet he pissed it away, mostly in his arm.

His parents are both Professors at a local Uni, and have extreme left positions on everything. Even going to the length that all Silverware is placed on the left side of the plate :facepalm:

His father is bat shit crazy smart, likened to Einstein, there is something here on MJ's that I can 100% guarantee that every member here uses. The flow charts and models of this is downright spooky !

His old man even a pissing contest with me because of my Military Background, the business I was in, which employed his son.

Anyways,

enough of this guy's BIO.

He and I would shoot the poop about everything, music, politics, the Local Happenings in Laguna Beach, which is always entertaining :mj07:

Barrack came up in one of our discussions, and he clued me in on the new Rising Super Star for the DEMS. His parents were/are the chief fundraisers in the South OC area, yet remain anonymous. It was quite a clash between he and I, yet it NEVER CAME TO THE EXTREME ATTACKS THAT HAPPEN HERE.

Sure, asshole, fuck you's and a multitude of insults echoed in the alley when we were repairing furniture, rarely did it go on in the warehouse, too many sensitive ears and we respected their wishes.

We discussed, "Who the fuck is this guy, B.H.O." ? He dropped nuggets of info on me, I would research BO online, so I would be prepared for the next day's salvo of political jousting.

I moved to Las Vegas to open a warehouse and being that I rarely sleep, I was up early to communicate with the Eastern sales reps. I also continued to repair and restore furniture. I would buy some hunk of shit from Goodwill or find something on the curb. 6 to 10 hours of work and 10 bucks in materials I could bring in 3H for a chair, table, whatever?

I would always seek his advice on restoration, then argue about Politics for a an hour, then back to work.

2004 comes around and Obama is more than a blip on the screen, it's at this time that one of us said, this dude will be POTUS.

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We were blown away by the magnetism, the elctricity and enthusiasm Barry brought. He brought the "High and tight" and set a fire under the asses of the DEMS. The only thing next was for us to figure out when, not if he becomes POTUS? We were both wrong, we figured 2012 was his time.

One of the comments from him floored me, He is partially Jewish, whatever that means? :shrug:

He said, "This is going to sound wrong coming from a Heeb, but shit dude, Obama lit up the crowd like Hitler did in the 30's and 40's !" I was on the ground, I was both shocked that he said that, but not suprised, and he halfway laughed while making the comment. When he was done, he took a giant pull of his bottle of Jack, and said, well, I guess we are done for the day?

Where is the Republican, Independent, or just Political Rebel to follow BO?

Do not say Sarah ! Please ! :facepalm:

Ron Paul has that energy, but he tends to rub people wrong, really?

Rand might be able to follow up, maybe?

Yes,

these conventions become a bore, 20+ hours of name calling, finger pointing and untruths are spouted off as fact.

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yet Matthews fought to the death about Biden's shackled comment.

The rest of the panel thinks Matthews went off the reservation, yet Chris was so drunk already, he continued to dig deeper.

Going back and forth from each of the Political Persuasions mouth pieces on TV, it really is no wonder why this country is so divided and angry.

Funny sounding coming from me, huh?

Yes,

I am angry ! Because it is nothing but Political Theater, the jabs and jousts, the insults and lies, and the real victims are the American People. Nothing is ever accomplished by our Government except division and animosity.

FFS,

STOP IT YOU ASS HOLES ! AND FIX THIS MESS !

ALL OF YOU ARE GUILTY !
 

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Yes,

I am angry ! Because it is nothing but Political Theater, the jabs and jousts, the insults and lies, and the real victims are the American People. Nothing is ever accomplished by our Government except division and animosity.



Romans 3:10-18

10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes."
 

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Romans 3:10-18

10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:

14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:

17 And the way of peace have they not known:

18 There is no fear of God before their eyes."

with this list you have posted Buddy,
I can respond to each and everyone,
with examples of "stuff" that has happened
to me in the last 48 hours. :facepalm:

15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:

On my way to the garage, both of my Jack Russell terrorists have to race me to the door. I stagger, I zig, zag, and get my right foot and pinky toe stuck under the door threshold ! Aaaaaargh !

Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:

I don't need to repeat those words :0008
 

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On my way to the garage, both of my Jack Russell terrorists...

We have a Toy Fox Terrier and a Min Pin.

The Toy Fox may be most hyper animal in western Pennsylvania. They've been companions for a couple of years and do not like to be separated for any length of time. When we walk them, my wife has the mp and I have the tf. While the tf is occupying herself in the park, my wife takes the mp to the other side of the field (about 80 yds). Seeing her compainion at a distance, the tf runs the entire length of the field at full speed to be with the mp. The tf does this twice each walk. These "sprints" are exhausting. It is the ONLY way we have found (other than an elephant tranquilizer) to calm her down for a few hours.
 

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Canine Cannabis?

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