What a disaster. Now the killing is in the Greenzone

[Jabberwocky]

The point is--same media--same blogs-same posters--can't wait to post anything that is negative on war--if that isn't relishing I don't know what is.

--Trust me --you can find very negative aspects of ever war--and more severe ones in korean and both world wars.

Fathom for a moment if you will the impact modern day fannypackers would have on those in Korean war that died from by thousands from the elements--or give them a day on civilian casuaties of hiroshima ect.

It would be a liberals utopia to have been around back then--and what the germans-japanese and N Koreans wouldn't have given for their support--
Think about it---

You guys comparing an invasion and subsequent occupation to wars against standing armies is absurd. This is not a war. It is an occupation. The war is over. Mission accomplished, remember? What a joke that you neocons continually bring up WW2 references. It is totally assinine. You guys think you that we are going to wait out the insurgents? Really? They will blow themselves up for the next 10,000 years. And then after that they will do it for the next 10,000.

DTB and GW reasoning: If you want to get the troops out of a no win situation and stop the senseless bloodshed of our military then you are anti-American and don't "support our troops." What fvcking idiocy.

 

[smurphy]

Wow. Weasel, you have really touched a nerve this time. The nerve was tweaked further by Wayne's incessant media/liberal mini-rant. I'm going to spend the rest of the afternoon trying to relax in nice spring weather, checking out some skin for the first time in I don't know how long around here, and loading up on alcohol.

Expect a drunken multi-layered attack on both of your B.S. (or is it B.S.'s?) later tonight. I can only imagine how frustrated you guys must be, sitting in a paint-surrounded corner, nearly all alone (with Freeze posting so infrequently these days), with nobody having the "sense" to agree with you anymore.

:mj07: Chadman, you've become my favorite poster in this forum. I look forward to the multi-layered alcohol fueled rant.

 

[Jabberwocky]

me too

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

What I'm saying --is if you go to AFT(or other forums) where you get the speil from the fanatic muslims-- you will find they and liberals are both singing out of same hymn book.

UBL--and others looked at Viet Nam--learned where the weak link was and as he and others predicted--are exploiting it.

--and if you believe non aggressive approach is answer--you might want to consider their attacks from 1990 up to 9-11 when we took passive approach (like they needed an excuse) and compare them to since we busted their ass.

 

[Chadman]

Sorry to let you guys down. I did hit the bottle, but got lazy watching the Twins and Wild lose last night and could not get the gumption up to fire up the laptop. It was downstairs, and it seemed so far away.

Playing golf this afternoon for the first time this year, so if I get mad enough at that, I should be good to go here later. Stay tuned.

In the meantime, weasel and wayne, you two are wrong. Just live with that for a while...:kiss:

 

[UGA12]

I really hope a democrate wins office so all of americas problems will be solved.

 

[smurphy]

UBL--and others looked at Viet Nam--learned where the weak link was and as he and others predicted--are exploiting it.

--and if you believe non aggressive approach is answer--you might want to consider their attacks from 1990 up to 9-11 when we took passive approach (like they needed an excuse) and compare them to since we busted their ass.

UBL made us invade Iraq? How?

Why look only from 1990? Oh yeah, that's right. Because if you dig all the way back to the early 80's, you'd be forced to examine the 2ND WORST terror attack we've ever had... in Beirut...when Reagan did nothing in retaliation.

And, what did Iraq have to do with 9-11 again?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I'm not giving Reagan pass by any means Smurph--and GW also had year before 911--

UBL didn't make us invade--his only comments were we wouldn't have stomach for long fight after the invasion.

Point is these Muslims do not need to be provoked for recruiting ect--they are currently wreaking havoc in Africa and every where else in the world.

I will grant you that we can not support the majority of fight worldwide--but if past 6 years has done nothing else it has made once safe havens for terrorist join in fight against them.

The way I see terrorist have had major set backs world wide since 911--the only bright spot they can boast--is lack of conviction by some to continue.

I have no probs with Dems considering ways to get our troops reduced in Iraq--if it was done behind closed doors--I am sure GW wants them out as soon as possible--however I believe we need to project to terrorist it will be done when job is finished--not on timetable because we are throwing in the towel.

---and tough to break moral of terrorist when you have demonstrations organized by radicals here giving them something to cheer about.

One thing I am certain of is you can't fight ruthless killers by trying to give them attorneys--passive interrogations--non profiling ect

It's a matter of time till these suicide bombers come here. Do you think any attitudes will change when they detonate themselves in crowded malls-sporting events ect.

Personally I'd like to see just one country--that would kill all immediate family members of suicide bombers to see if fighting terror with terror would have any effect--I'm thinking it would.

 

[djv]

Strange thing in 2000 I voted for W. Even tho Clinton with good work with congress on some things made me a ton of money. Even those so called Tax hikes by Clinton that some how created tons of new millionaires. But I had it with him and his girl friend and felt time for big change and voted for Bush. I was OK with him to the Iraq stupid move. And I started to see Cheney ran things.
As for Iraq. It was not the best place before we invaded. Problem is we have made it no better.
Even those with bad eye site should see that. An It's not improving very fast. And are money is going down a hole. And Bush and Cheney just can't wake up.

 

[smurphy]

--however I believe we need to project to terrorist it will be done when job is finished--

When is the job finished? Seems to me we won an dthe job was done when a govt was set up and elections were held. What more are we supposed to do? What have we been spending lives and money on the last 2 years?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Valid point Smurph--and the best of arguements

and I agree to some extent--I would like to see us take a more supportive role and less combat participation. However I think the reason we don't is Iraqi troops can not yet be trusted to do what is necessary--the Sadr issue coming up again is the biggie.

"Strange thing in 2000 I voted for W. Even tho Clinton with good work with congress on some things made me a ton of money."

sorry DJV but everytime you bring this nonsense up--I will have to counter with the facts.

--and the fact is-- if you retained your company stock (ASD)after retirement--your net worth has more than tripled in 6 years under GW.

yet you continue to praise Bill who made you peanuts--and diss this admin--don't let looking through political glasses keep you from seeing the obvious-my friend.