What a mess in Louisana

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State government in Louisiana, led by the ever-selfish Bobby Jindal, is sitting on their thumbs waiting for the feds to move. Feds are all talk and no action. BP was not prepared, but at least they have begun funding teams of local fisherman and volunteers from our 5 parish area.

The teams of local fisherman are going to set up oil contatinment booms along the coast and fill in other gaps in the marsh between booms with a cotton product.

Another issue that I heard from a local parish prez, is that 30 years ago between New Orleans and Houston, along the intercoastal waterway, there were enough booms warehoused to line the entire gulf coast from Naples, Florida to Brownsville, TX. Through the incident-free decades, the supply of booms and our emergency preparedness have dwindled, so we now do not have enough booms to cover the LA coast. The problem with the LA coastline is it is made up of fjord-like fingers that stretch into miles of marshland. This is what makes fishing here what it is, and why folks come here from around the globe to catch fish most of the year. Once it penetrates, the cleaning may take decades. Once the oyster beds get hit, it will definetely take a minimum of a decade (and many claiming way more than that) for a recovery.

A huge spill off of the coast of my dad's hometown in Spain, Porto do Son, resulted in years of cleanup. It is the Prestige Oil spill in case you want to look it up. The fishing industry there, which is among the largest in the world, took a massive hit. They began fishing 6 months after the fact, and I can't help but wonder if the recent rise in cancer rate in that area is related to these "formerly" contaminated sea beds.

I fear for the future of my state more today than I did when 80% of residences in New Orleans flooded in 2005........:(
 

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And you are rolling your eyes at what? :shrug:

This incident will totally cripple thousands upon thousands of people who depend on the gulf for their lifeline.

And it seems to everyone who has followed the story that BP tried to cover up how bad the spill was.

Just so you know, the affected local fisherman and the affected parishes are behind BP, because the synergy between fishing(commercial ans sport) and oil/natural gas production, is what makes things tick south of New Orleans.

I appreciate your concern, but it should be more about the cleanup and less about starting a hate-parade against big bad oil.

That is not to say that BP and those in charge of emergency preparedness should not be investigated and fined accordingly, but we produce more oil and gas per capita than any state in the nation, and that needs to continue until we get off of our asses in the country and begin a 4 or 5 part energy overhaul plan that I have been bitching about for 4 years.
 

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so do what?.....immediately stop driving?...stop using petroleum products?.....almost everything we use ...every fricking container...every auto mobile... clothes,cameras,aspirin,tape,eyeglasses,footballs,football helmets,paint,golf balls,shampoo,soap,telephones.......the list goes on forever...

stop utilizing our own energy so we can go deeper in debt and become even more dependent on foreign sources for our lifesblood?....

IF it was an accident(unknown as we speak),....until the cause is determined,stop whining...fix it... clean it up...and get on with it...

if we were allowed to drill in the more remote,oil rich areas(anwar),the environmenatal impact of such an accident wouldn`t affect thousands of people...

you guys are living in la-la land...

Maybe we could bring criminal charges against the top executives for there lack of a contengancy plan? Or impose Severe fines that would wipe out 5 yrs worth of the companies profits????? No, we just sit by and call it an accident, OPPSY....
If a person kills an animal because of neglect, they face possible jail time, all the BP execs have to say is it is not entirely there fault???? This is just another example of our double standards that we all live by. No one will change this, and the president says he is all about change? Maybe the change in his pocket....fwiw:rolleyes:
 

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so do what?.....immediately stop driving?...stop using petroleum products?.....almost everything we use ...every fricking container...every auto mobile... clothes,cameras,aspirin,tape,eyeglasses,footballs,football helmets,paint,golf balls,shampoo,soap,telephones.......the list goes on forever...

stop utilizing our own energy so we can go deeper in debt and become even more dependent on foreign sources for our lifesblood?....

IF it was an accident(unknown as we speak),....until the cause is determined,stop whining...fix it... clean it up...and get on with it...

if we were allowed to drill in the more remote,oil rich areas(anwar),the environmenatal impact of such an accident wouldn`t affect thousands of people...

you guys are living in la-la land...

Where did I fucking say we should stop using oil?

Stop putting words in my mouth.

The issue is that this country refuses to move forward to find other sources but we are just a slave to oil.

Also these companies work above the law, the profits are obscene and they get away with shit no one else would.
 

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Maybe we could bring criminal charges against the top executives for there lack of a contengancy plan? Or impose Severe fines that would wipe out 5 yrs worth of the companies profits????? No, we just sit by and call it an accident, OPPSY....
If a person kills an animal because of neglect, they face possible jail time, all the BP execs have to say is it is not entirely there fault???? This is just another example of our double standards that we all live by. No one will change this, and the president says he is all about change? Maybe the change in his pocket....fwiw:rolleyes:

It took you this long to realize the Prez is not about change? Geez louise, The Sponge is a diehard lib and he figured it out over a year ago:shrug:
 

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Where did I fucking say we should stop using oil?

Stop putting words in my mouth.

The issue is that this country refuses to move forward to find other sources but we are just a slave to oil.

Also these companies work above the law, the profits are obscene and they get away with shit no one else would.

when was the last major u.s. oil rig failure perpetrated by these "lawless" s.o.b.`s?....you think this benefits b.p. in some way?...it benefits this administration and the eco-zombies...

you totally buy into the class warfare b.s.,don`t you?......you`re the target audience...the weak of mind...the easily manipulated...

i wonder what`s next?....we have the governmental takeover of the banks...the auto industry.....the healthcare industry...


maybe the oil industry?...

shades of hugo chavez...looks like a pattern from here..

sounds familiar...same modus operandi over and over again until the government contriols basically everything...

wake the hell up,drone......
 

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This is going to become a DOTFA of Gallactic proportions. The POTUS has enough shit on his plate to begin with and now another Shit Sandwich has been added and he has to take 2 bites.

Being that today is May Day and there are over 70 Protests over the Arizona Anti-Immigration Law and that is certain to have some sort of trouble.

When the final investigative report comes out, something shady is going to be found. It's very curious as to why Obama is sending SWAT teams to inspect every oil platform.
 

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This is going to become a DOTFA of Gallactic proportions. The POTUS has enough shit on his plate to begin with and now another Shit Sandwich has been added and he has to take 2 bites.

Being that today is May Day and there are over 70 Protests over the Arizona Anti-Immigration Law and that is certain to have some sort of trouble.

When the final investigative report comes out, something shady is going to be found. It's very curious as to why Obama is sending SWAT teams to inspect every oil platform.



I hope you are wrong, but sabotoge is still well within the realm of possibility. The radical left, just like the radical right, are unfit for society and should all be held in Guantanamo-like camps. Just my honest opinion.
 

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Maybe we could bring criminal charges against the top executives for there lack of a contengancy plan? Or impose Severe fines that would wipe out 5 yrs worth of the companies profits????? No, we just sit by and call it an accident, OPPSY....
If a person kills an animal because of neglect, they face possible jail time, all the BP execs have to say is it is not entirely there fault???? This is just another example of our double standards that we all live by. No one will change this, and the president says he is all about change? Maybe the change in his pocket....fwiw:rolleyes:

Wasn't it an accident?

I think the oil co will pay plenty before its over--there is already 2 class actions suits filed by 2 shrimp co's--also oil companies should be responsible for clean up. Saddest thing is on oil spills is eco damage that takes years--and real bitch is it happen to La who just pulling out of last catastrophe.

I certainly agree the companies should be responsible but don't can't see intense anger at industry thats had 2nd accident in over 20 years.

not sure how many people oil companies employ in La but doubt they would want all oil co to pull out and get fishing pole as severance pay.

I certainly think the fisherman and those effected should be compensated for loss--but hate to see it via class action where much of money will go in others pockets. Wish they would agree on arbitration board to come up with sum-and plaintiffs get 99%.
 

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Wasn't it an accident?

I think the oil co will pay plenty before its over--there is already 2 class actions suits filed by 2 shrimp co's--also oil companies should be responsible for clean up. Saddest thing is on oil spills is eco damage that takes years--and real bitch is it happen to La who just pulling out of last catastrophe.

I certainly agree the companies should be responsible but don't can't see intense anger at industry thats had 2nd accident in over 20 years.

not sure how many people oil companies employ in La but doubt they would want all oil co to pull out and get fishing pole as severance pay.

I certainly think the fisherman and those effected should be compensated for loss--but hate to see it via class action where much of money will go in others pockets. Wish they would agree on arbitration board to come up with sum-and plaintiffs get 99%.

for the class warfare contingent,this is lemonade,not lemons...bp can`t "simply pass on" the charges....the price of oil is a global price. ....if bp wants to raise its prices, they'll simply be undercut by the others....

there is no cartel of refiners that i`m aware of.... bp can maybe raise its prices a little, but not nearly enough to cover their costs....they`re getting crushed any way you cut it...

if they can raise their prices today, they could have done so a week ago, and they would have. ...they didn't. ..

here`s where we agree...the stockholders of bp will take a major share of the hit......and this is how it should be....

btw...i definitely feel for the seafood/fishing/tourism industries of loosiana...just a terrible incident...
 
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I hope you are wrong, but sabotoge is still well within the realm of possibility. The radical left, just like the radical right, are unfit for society and should all be held in Guantanamo-like camps. Just my honest opinion.

There are places far worse than Gitmo that we can send them.

I think we should really be holding out breath while waiting for the next oil rig catastrophe. Not only that but refinery or anything that has to do with oil.

An order of Oysters Rock would be nice :SIB :toast:
 

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Second drilling rig overturns in Louisiana

Second drilling rig overturns in Louisiana

Second drilling rig overturns in Louisiana
Sat May 1, 2010 2:20am IST

HOUSTON, April 30 (Reuters) - The U.S. Coast Guard said Friday it was responding to another oil drilling rig accident near Morgan City, Louisiana.

The "mobile inland drilling unit" overturned in the Charenton navigational channel south of U.S. Highway 90 at Morgan City. (Reporting by Bruce Nichols)
 

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Officials say an oil drilling rig on its way to a scrap yard has overturned in Louisiana.
No injuries have been reported.
The rig overturned about 80 miles (129 kilometers) west-southwest of New Orleans. The Coast Guard said in a news release Friday that the drilling unit overturned in the Charenton navigational canal.
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It can carry about 20,000 gallons (75,700 liters) of diesel fuel, but Coast Guard officials did not know how much fuel was on board. Coast Guard investigators say no fuel leaks have been found.
About 500 feet (150 meters) of boom has been set up around the rig to contain any fuel that might leak as a precaution.
Tina Moore, the owner of T. Moore Services, which owned the rig, says it was being transported to a demolition and scrap yard. She says the rig was mounted on a barge.
 

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Cie Grant;2640997 4 or 5 part energy overhaul plan that I have been bitching about for 4 years.[/QUOTE said:
:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: Yet the people you support would crush any bill that would support this dream of urs. You need to get some mirrors in your house to see how stupid u look.
 

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Cie,

There was no sabotage.

It is pretty sad to see this turned into a political issue. Nobody wins in this one.

The saddest part of all is that the 11 men that were lost don't even get an honorable mention in the conversation.

:(
 

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Cie,

There was no sabotage.

It is pretty sad to see this turned into a political issue. Nobody wins in this one.

The saddest part of all is that the 11 men that were lost don't even get an honorable mention in the conversation.

:(

i`ve seen one link in which a b.p. spokesman indicated that it was caused by a failed piece of equipment...and he doesn`t know why the equipment failed...

other than this statement,i`ve seen nothing official regarding the cause of the explosion...

given the track record of these rigs and the track record of some environmental wackjobs,it`s not responsible if those questions aren`t addressed...particularly in light of obama sending swat teams to other rigs in the area...
 
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