We have a place in Gulf Shores, AL, and I am supposed to heading there next friday for the weekend. I am going to call the office early next week to see what they can tell me about any possible effects out th at way. Will post here when I do.....
What a mess in Louisana
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We have a place in Gulf Shores, AL, and I am supposed to heading there next friday for the weekend. I am going to call the office early next week to see what they can tell me about any possible effects out th at way. Will post here when I do.....
i wonder why nobody`s talking about tennessee....that`s more immediate than this...affecting many more people directly...
it`s like the media is iignoring it....:shrug:
it`s like the media is iignoring it....:shrug:
I have to send the rest of my money to the owner of the condo. $600 bucks. She has not contacted me yet, I'm going to play dumb and try to put it off.
no i think its the first one Cie. If this one works they are already building another one as we speak.
Cap is on, they are hooking up the plumbing. I looked at the NOAA update map of the spill, and it really has not gotte much bigger over the last week
Got this from a florida fishing forum. Guy claims to have been there and other things, pics are at least interesting if not his theory of what happened.
if interested http://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6104
if interested http://www.mudinmyblood.net/forum/showthread.php?t=6104
ageecee,
I work for a service company.
The BOP is not closed. If it would be, the well would be closed and no more oil would be coming out.
The first coffer dam filled with ice.
I work for a service company.
The BOP is not closed. If it would be, the well would be closed and no more oil would be coming out.
The first coffer dam filled with ice.
talked to my dad today
no oil on beachs in Tampa yet
They say it is heading to the Keys.
badtothebone - beware
no oil on beachs in Tampa yet
They say it is heading to the Keys.
badtothebone - beware
I read where they had closed the BOP but i was like if they closed them why is it still leaking oil? They need to get that leak fixed asap.
Next step to stop oil: Throw garbage at itBy the CNN Wire Staff
May 9, 2010 3:02 p.m. EDT
The four-story oil containment dome made its way beneath the Gulf of Mexico early Friday in an attempt to capture leaking oil.
NEW: BP officials considering "junk shot" to try to clog blowout container with debris
Crystals accumulated inside containment dome, rendering it ineffective
Dome moved to side of wellhead while crews work to overcome the challenge, BP CEO says
Placing dome over well 5,000 feet underwater had never been tried at such a depth
Venice, Mississippi (CNN) -- If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn't work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.
Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with trash, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.
"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."
Oil company BP, the well's owner, had attempted to lower a four-story containment vessel over the well to cap the larger of the well's two leak points. But that plan was thwarted Saturday after ice-like hydrate crystals, formed when gas combined with water, blocked the top of the dome and made it buoyant.
BP said it has not abandoned the dome plan. But Doug Suttles, the company's chief operating officer, told reporters that officials are considering the "junk shot" along with other possible solutions.
Suttles said Saturday that trying to stuff shut the blowout preventer had not yet been attempted because of possible challenges and risks. And Allen said the approach had worked in the past, but never so deep beneath the water's surface.
"We're working at 5,000 feet of depth, which has never been done before," he said.
The dome was resting on the seabed Sunday while crews tried to find a way to deal with the crystals -- a process that could take two days, Suttles told reporters Saturday.
Officials are considering heating the dome or adding methanol to dissolve the hydrates, he said. If the hydrate problem is resolved, BP hopes to connect the dome to a drill ship and to begin sucking oil from the containment dome.
In the meantime, an estimated 210,000 gallons (5,000 barrels) of crude is pouring from the well every day. Hundreds of thousands of feet of boom and large volumes of dispersants continued to be deployed in an effort to capture or break up the spilled oil moving toward the Gulf coastline, and thousands of workers and volunteers diligently worked to skim the water's surface.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecasters warned that the Mississippi Delta, Breton Sound, the Chandeleur Islands and areas directly north could see oil hit the coast by Tuesday, and significant winds could push oil west of the Mississippi Delta by Monday. And scientists are analyzing tar balls found on a beach on Dauphin Island, Alabama, to determine whether they were caused by the oil spill, and Coast Guard spokesman Erik Swanson said.
The tar balls are "pieces of emulsified oil" shaped like pancakes, ranging in size from dimes to golf balls, but can sometimes occur naturally, Swanson said.
The stakes are high for residents of coastal Louisiana who make their living by fishing in the Gulf. Oil washed ashore Thursday on Louisiana's barrier islands and drifted west past the mouth of the Mississippi River.
"It's killing everybody down here, everybody is more or less getting ulcers worrying about this, and it's something we experienced five years ago with [Hurricane] Katrina," charter-boat owner Tom Becker told CNN Saturday.
Federal investigators are still trying determining what caused the explosion that sank the Deepwater Horizon, owned by BP contractor Transocean Ltd. The explosion left 11 men presumed dead aboard the rig and caused the massive underwater gusher that the company and the federal government have been trying to cap since late April.
Suttles said Saturday that senior BP employees, including the company's vice president for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, were on board the rig at the time of the explosion discussing its positive safety performance.
"This rig had an outstanding record," he said.
All six BP employees on board were among the 111 people who escaped from the burning rig, Suttles said.
BP is legally required to cover economic damages from the spill up to $75 million. But Florida Sen. Bill Nelson has introduced legislation that would raise the liability cap to $10 billion.
"If this gusher continues for several months, it's going to cover up the Gulf Coast and it's going to get down into the loop current and that's going to take it down the Florida Keys and up the east coast of Florida, and you are talking about massive economic loss to our tourism, our beaches, to our fisheries, very possibly disruption of our military testing and training," Nelson said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
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I know this is 5,000 ft and a very complicated situation .
But first idea - OK lets put something heavy over it.
nope
Now they come up with a junk shot to clog it ?
That dont have a chance in hell of working.
They sound like the three stooges. Why dont they just give some slaps around and wake these people up.
Someone has to come up with a innovative idea soon.
I read where Russia on land has used small nuclear devices. They are not sure if it would work in water though.
That sounds like something your worst enemy would suggest. Maybe we should ask Chavez or Castro .
Here is a idea. Lets go to the other side of the world directly opposite this leak and drill there.
Once we tap into it through the center of the earth and it starts coming up gushing, we can leave.
damn
May 9, 2010 3:02 p.m. EDT
The four-story oil containment dome made its way beneath the Gulf of Mexico early Friday in an attempt to capture leaking oil.
NEW: BP officials considering "junk shot" to try to clog blowout container with debris
Crystals accumulated inside containment dome, rendering it ineffective
Dome moved to side of wellhead while crews work to overcome the challenge, BP CEO says
Placing dome over well 5,000 feet underwater had never been tried at such a depth
Venice, Mississippi (CNN) -- If using a massive dome to cover the source of the oil gushing into the Gulf of Mexico doesn't work, crews are preparing for another option: clogging it.
Engineers are examining whether they can close a failed blowout preventer by stuffing it with trash, said Adm. Thad Allen, the commandant of the Coast Guard. The 48-foot-tall, 450-ton device sits atop the well at the heart of the Gulf oil spill and is designed to stop leaks, but it has not been working properly since the oil rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20 and later sank.
"The next tactic is going to be something they call a junk shot," Allen told CBS's "Face the Nation" on Sunday. "They'll take a bunch of debris -- shredded up tires, golf balls and things like that -- and under very high pressure, shoot it into the preventer itself and see if they can clog it up and stop the leak."
Oil company BP, the well's owner, had attempted to lower a four-story containment vessel over the well to cap the larger of the well's two leak points. But that plan was thwarted Saturday after ice-like hydrate crystals, formed when gas combined with water, blocked the top of the dome and made it buoyant.
BP said it has not abandoned the dome plan. But Doug Suttles, the company's chief operating officer, told reporters that officials are considering the "junk shot" along with other possible solutions.
Suttles said Saturday that trying to stuff shut the blowout preventer had not yet been attempted because of possible challenges and risks. And Allen said the approach had worked in the past, but never so deep beneath the water's surface.
"We're working at 5,000 feet of depth, which has never been done before," he said.
The dome was resting on the seabed Sunday while crews tried to find a way to deal with the crystals -- a process that could take two days, Suttles told reporters Saturday.
Officials are considering heating the dome or adding methanol to dissolve the hydrates, he said. If the hydrate problem is resolved, BP hopes to connect the dome to a drill ship and to begin sucking oil from the containment dome.
In the meantime, an estimated 210,000 gallons (5,000 barrels) of crude is pouring from the well every day. Hundreds of thousands of feet of boom and large volumes of dispersants continued to be deployed in an effort to capture or break up the spilled oil moving toward the Gulf coastline, and thousands of workers and volunteers diligently worked to skim the water's surface.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration forecasters warned that the Mississippi Delta, Breton Sound, the Chandeleur Islands and areas directly north could see oil hit the coast by Tuesday, and significant winds could push oil west of the Mississippi Delta by Monday. And scientists are analyzing tar balls found on a beach on Dauphin Island, Alabama, to determine whether they were caused by the oil spill, and Coast Guard spokesman Erik Swanson said.
The tar balls are "pieces of emulsified oil" shaped like pancakes, ranging in size from dimes to golf balls, but can sometimes occur naturally, Swanson said.
The stakes are high for residents of coastal Louisiana who make their living by fishing in the Gulf. Oil washed ashore Thursday on Louisiana's barrier islands and drifted west past the mouth of the Mississippi River.
"It's killing everybody down here, everybody is more or less getting ulcers worrying about this, and it's something we experienced five years ago with [Hurricane] Katrina," charter-boat owner Tom Becker told CNN Saturday.
Federal investigators are still trying determining what caused the explosion that sank the Deepwater Horizon, owned by BP contractor Transocean Ltd. The explosion left 11 men presumed dead aboard the rig and caused the massive underwater gusher that the company and the federal government have been trying to cap since late April.
Suttles said Saturday that senior BP employees, including the company's vice president for drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, were on board the rig at the time of the explosion discussing its positive safety performance.
"This rig had an outstanding record," he said.
All six BP employees on board were among the 111 people who escaped from the burning rig, Suttles said.
BP is legally required to cover economic damages from the spill up to $75 million. But Florida Sen. Bill Nelson has introduced legislation that would raise the liability cap to $10 billion.
"If this gusher continues for several months, it's going to cover up the Gulf Coast and it's going to get down into the loop current and that's going to take it down the Florida Keys and up the east coast of Florida, and you are talking about massive economic loss to our tourism, our beaches, to our fisheries, very possibly disruption of our military testing and training," Nelson said Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."
................................................................
I know this is 5,000 ft and a very complicated situation .
But first idea - OK lets put something heavy over it.
nope
Now they come up with a junk shot to clog it ?
That dont have a chance in hell of working.
They sound like the three stooges. Why dont they just give some slaps around and wake these people up.
Someone has to come up with a innovative idea soon.
I read where Russia on land has used small nuclear devices. They are not sure if it would work in water though.
That sounds like something your worst enemy would suggest. Maybe we should ask Chavez or Castro .
Here is a idea. Lets go to the other side of the world directly opposite this leak and drill there.
Once we tap into it through the center of the earth and it starts coming up gushing, we can leave.
damn
Two senators - one Democrat and one Republican - slammed the oil and gas industry Sunday along with the federal agency responsible for regulating the industry. (Photo Credit: CNN)
Washington (CNN) ? A Democratic senator whose state is in the bulls? eye of the massive oil spill swirling around the Gulf of Mexico said Sunday that the oil and gas industry has used its political muscle to frustrate past efforts to tighten regulations and increase safety precautions.
Watch: Nelson, Shelby slam industry and its regulator
??Big Oil? wants its way,? Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, said on CNN?s State of the Union, ?They?ve been trying to bully their way to drill off the coast of Florida.? Nelson was responding to a suggestion from CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley that Congress had failed in its oversight responsibility relating to the Minerals Management Service (?MMS?), the federal agency the regulates offshore drilling.
??Big Oil? has had its way among the regulators, the senator said. Nelson said the relationship between the industry and MMS is a ?cozy? one and the Florida Democrat referenced embarrassing revelations about the MMS which both regulates the safety of oil and gas exploration and manages the federal government?s lucrative leases of federal land to the oil and gas industry.
Related video: MMS in bed with 'Big Oil'?
?But shouldn?t Congress have some responsibility?? Crowley asked Nelson.
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we should make all the oil companys pay for stopping the leak and the clean up.
I bet it would be stopped within days then
Washington (CNN) ? A Democratic senator whose state is in the bulls? eye of the massive oil spill swirling around the Gulf of Mexico said Sunday that the oil and gas industry has used its political muscle to frustrate past efforts to tighten regulations and increase safety precautions.
Watch: Nelson, Shelby slam industry and its regulator
??Big Oil? wants its way,? Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Florida, said on CNN?s State of the Union, ?They?ve been trying to bully their way to drill off the coast of Florida.? Nelson was responding to a suggestion from CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley that Congress had failed in its oversight responsibility relating to the Minerals Management Service (?MMS?), the federal agency the regulates offshore drilling.
??Big Oil? has had its way among the regulators, the senator said. Nelson said the relationship between the industry and MMS is a ?cozy? one and the Florida Democrat referenced embarrassing revelations about the MMS which both regulates the safety of oil and gas exploration and manages the federal government?s lucrative leases of federal land to the oil and gas industry.
Related video: MMS in bed with 'Big Oil'?
?But shouldn?t Congress have some responsibility?? Crowley asked Nelson.
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we should make all the oil companys pay for stopping the leak and the clean up.
I bet it would be stopped within days then
Gulf Spill Could Be Much Worse Than Believed
May 13, 2010
The volume of oil pouring into the Gulf of Mexico from the Deepwater Horizon oil rig may be at least 10 times higher than previously estimated, NPR has learned.
The U.S. Coast Guard has estimated that oil was gushing from a broken pipe on the Gulf floor at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day.
But sophisticated scientific analysis of seafloor video made available Wednesday by the oil company BP shows that the true figure is closer to 70,000 barrels a day, NPR's Richard Harris reports.
That means the oil spilling into the Gulf has already far exceeded the equivalent of the 1989 Exxon Valdez tanker accident in Alaska, which spilled at least 250,000 barrels of oil.
The analysis was conducted by Steve Wereley, an associate professor at Purdue University, using a technique called particle image velocimetry. Harris tells Michele Norris that the method is accurate to a degree of plus or minus 20 percent. That means the flow could range between 56,000 barrels a day and 84,000 barrels a day.
Another analysis by Eugene Chiang, a professor of astrophysics at the University of California, Berkeley, calculated the rate of flow to be between 20,000 barrels a day and 100,000 barrels a day.
Even the most conservative of those estimates is much higher than what the Coast Guard has so far said.
But the pipe is spewing both oil and gas and it's not clear in the BP video how much is oil and how much is gas.
BP disputes these results, and maintains there is no reliable way to calculate the flow of oil from a broken pipe.
But, Harris said, the uncertainty could be reduced if BP would share more information with the scientists.
May 13, 2010
The volume of oil pouring into the Gulf of Mexico from the Deepwater Horizon oil rig may be at least 10 times higher than previously estimated, NPR has learned.
The U.S. Coast Guard has estimated that oil was gushing from a broken pipe on the Gulf floor at the rate of 5,000 barrels a day.
But sophisticated scientific analysis of seafloor video made available Wednesday by the oil company BP shows that the true figure is closer to 70,000 barrels a day, NPR's Richard Harris reports.
That means the oil spilling into the Gulf has already far exceeded the equivalent of the 1989 Exxon Valdez tanker accident in Alaska, which spilled at least 250,000 barrels of oil.
The analysis was conducted by Steve Wereley, an associate professor at Purdue University, using a technique called particle image velocimetry. Harris tells Michele Norris that the method is accurate to a degree of plus or minus 20 percent. That means the flow could range between 56,000 barrels a day and 84,000 barrels a day.
Another analysis by Eugene Chiang, a professor of astrophysics at the University of California, Berkeley, calculated the rate of flow to be between 20,000 barrels a day and 100,000 barrels a day.
Even the most conservative of those estimates is much higher than what the Coast Guard has so far said.
But the pipe is spewing both oil and gas and it's not clear in the BP video how much is oil and how much is gas.
BP disputes these results, and maintains there is no reliable way to calculate the flow of oil from a broken pipe.
But, Harris said, the uncertainty could be reduced if BP would share more information with the scientists.
I can hardly watch this anymore on the news, it's painful ! It fucking angers me ! LA is being forced to take another bite of a shit sandwich, no mustard. These people who make a living in the region are totally screwed, BP and the GOVT are playing the CHANGE GAME ever day on these folks, and it's a big dick dance on the solution. The final solution of it all will be that the Big Oil Company's will either collude together and all raise their prices and screw all of us at the pump to keep BP solvent, or they will stick their collective greasy boots up BP's ass and bankrupt them once BP is done unfucking this mess, in oh.....20-25 years? :shrug:
