what can our sponsors do for you guys?

[MadJack]

that will make you want to signup? that will make you especially happy?

what do you want the sportsbooks to do for you that will make you stay and play?

let's hear it.

let's be serious too. what does it take to get a player and keep them?

 

[mode the lode]

50 % SIGN ON BONUS , IN A REASONABLE LENGHT OF TIME, THAT WILL HELP US OVERCOME SOME JUICE, AND 30% RE-LOADS,BETTER TEASERS ODDS LIKE, 2 TEAM 7 PT. TEASERS @ 10% JUICE, PUSH ON ANY TIES,

 

[BahamaMama]

the best book for me would be one that does NOT have a casino...unfortunately, that would not be beneficial to them, so it will be a hard one to find

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Theres only one real answer to your question if you want realistic answers.

get rid of the bonuses and stop wasting their money on em and lower the juice. Period. Bonuses are the biggest sucker bet out there. I mean what good is a 200 bonus on a 1k deposit or something similar if I'm gonna have to bet into 20 cent lines. Its' completely worthless.

I understand the need for them as books look to gain novice bettors to their site where they don't consider the juice. I understand they will never go away.

But please, I don't care what kind of bonus you are offering or doing, LOWER THE JUICE. It's the only answer that makes sense.

You tell me how someone is going to compete with pinnacles 4% juice this year on NFL sides. You can't. That's not to say you don't need more books for outs as lines vary, but not enough people understand the juice is where you make or break it in this business.

So theres your answer. Get more books to lower their juice.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

the best book for me would be one that does NOT have a casino...unfortunately, that would not be beneficial to them, so it will be a hard one to find

you can get that turned off. Any reputable book will turn off your casino access. And they will do it with no problems or questions asked. If they do give you a hard time you need a new book. I always turn mine off in case password gets stolen or such, you are never getting that money back.

 

[Blackman]

Bonuses are nice, but it's the little things that keep me doing business with a book.

I like to be able to call up to make a withdrawal, have the customer service rep just ask me for my info and not make me jump through any hoops.

Loyalty programs such as the one BetJamaica offers are nice. When I have two outs with the same line, I'm more likely to book that play with BetJamaica knowing it goes towards a bonus free play down the road.

Agree with BDB the reduced juice is paramount.

 

[beertime]

i could use a blowjob

 

[BahamaMama]

you can get that turned off. Any reputable book will turn off your casino access. And they will do it with no problems or questions asked. If they do give you a hard time you need a new book. I always turn mine off in case password gets stolen or such, you are never getting that money back.

funny you should mention the *never getting it back stuff* BDB...... about 5 years back (one of the sponsors here, and i do not remember which) had a VERY unsecure site.... i had it bookmarked past a log in page, and went out for a night, and my kids (who love blackjack) were playing on my computer at grandma and grandpas house while i was out... they saw a link to BLACKJACK..... clicked on it, and had no clue they were losing my REAL money!!!! thanks to Jack and the book, they reimbursed what my 'lil darlin lost due to the fact that a logoff of computer should have prompted a password!!! i had to roll it over several times to get it back, but that isn't nearly as hard at a casino as it is in sportsbetting.,,, at least they didn't take everything i had built up away from me!!! so far this preseason in footballl, if you guys wanna believe it or not, i have been VERY lucky..... my real bets are like 18-2 and my lets play some joke parlays with the profits ain't been doin' so well....LOL what is killing me, is transferring profits from the night to the casino and losing it all....UGH ... might have to give that turning the casino off a shot!!! but at least at V-wager, it has helped me do the rollover of the 100% bonus in a few nights (and still 300 up from my own investment) we won't even discuss the other deposits for contests....LOL

 

[godsfavoritedog]

Some will turn off the casino. I have asked and got positive responses from:

Betjamaica
Cris
WSEX

The following never even bothered to reply to my e-mails (tried twice w/ each book):

5Dimes
Bowman's
Olympic
MVP
Tcbets

 

[buddy]

I'm a parlay player and I like Infinity's appearance plus I like what they have to offer.

No bimbos cluttering up the screen, user-friendly software makes for easy navigation, very friendly customer service plus the odds and wager types that I want (parlays and pleasers). Bottom line...just a straight-forward, well-organized sportsbook.

In addition, they have their lines up early, grade plays quickly and I've never had a problem with withdrawals or transfers.

I do like Infinity. Always have.

To be fair, let me say that during this cfb season, I will probably try at least 10 Madjack sponsored sportsbooks.

 

[bjfinste]

I've never had a problem with withdrawals or transfers.

Don't they charge fees on all withdrawls, even neteller? Probably not a big deal if you play 500-1000 a game, but I was with them in 2003 (and am again this season for the CFB contest), and I remember making a $600 withdrawl on neteller and having to pay a fee (either $15 or $25, can't quite remember). I mean, it's not gonna break me, but it's like being fined for winning. Just sort of irks me when pretty much every shop offers AT LEAST one free neteller withdrawl a month.

 

[bjfinste]

Theres only one real answer to your question if you want realistic answers.

get rid of the bonuses and stop wasting their money on em and lower the juice. Period. Bonuses are the biggest sucker bet out there. I mean what good is a 200 bonus on a 1k deposit or something similar if I'm gonna have to bet into 20 cent lines. Its' completely worthless.

I understand the need for them as books look to gain novice bettors to their site where they don't consider the juice. I understand they will never go away.

But please, I don't care what kind of bonus you are offering or doing, LOWER THE JUICE. It's the only answer that makes sense.

You tell me how someone is going to compete with pinnacles 4% juice this year on NFL sides. You can't. That's not to say you don't need more books for outs as lines vary, but not enough people understand the juice is where you make or break it in this business.

So theres your answer. Get more books to lower their juice.

BAM!!

That, my friends, is the sound of the nail being hit squarely on the head. Reduced juice, all the way.

 

[just cover]

For contests I think the rollover requirements are getting a little crazy. For example the bestline contest you cant have a withdrawl for 21 days to be eligible for any winnings and must be active plus the rollover requirement. I got the rollover requirement done and have it built up to $2500. I was going to take a dime out to hit the riverboat and luckily I checked the rules again. Don't get me wrong I like the contests but like some other people posted for the side contest at Bet Jam that they didnt want to jump through hoops. Also fees for withdrawing money I think is ridiculus, unless you are a guy who takes out $100 every other day when get a win. Make a free one every week. Also I like the reward programs like Bet Jamaica, and the books can have the 10-20% reups for the lower juice.

just cover

 

[yyz]

I totally agree with DodgerBlue.

I don't even look at a book who tells me they are offering 50% sign up bonuses. You read the disclaimers with those guys, and you want to pull out your hair! I also don't send a penny to the ass clowns who send me mail 5 days a week. (often the same places!)

I want to send you my money with as much ease and quickness as I can. If I want to send you $330 by e-check, and bet it on one game 5 minutes later, I should be able to. If I win that bet, and ask for my $630 to be sent back to me, I should have it just as fast. I don't want your "bells and whistles".

I read the small print on one of the 50% add-on bonuses I got the other day. It said something like, "50% bonus valid until first withdrawal."

I didn't call to ask, but that sure sounds to me like they will let you wager that money, but not take it out. Is that really a "bonus"? It's more like 50% in non-cashable fun money. (That in itself might be okay for some of you, but it comes off to me, as a little side stepping.

I think DodgerBlue knows as well as I do, as to why these books will offer you a huge bonus, over a 1% reduction in juice..........One of those options actually costs them money!

 

[kneifl]

Less crap all the way around. I like the bonuses, they're pretty good, re-ups are paramount too. Less juice is paramount and much more important than any bonuses!! It's ridiculous some of the juice they want. Less line moves, at least they could keep their line in tune with the current line out in Vegas and not move it so much in their favor. I'd also like to see a book that continually tries to keep the customer happy in all of these aspects... I doubt I'll find one!

kneifl

 

[yyz]

kneifl........why the hell do you have a picture of Alice from the Barady Bunch, as your avitar?

 

[Blackman]

kneifl........why the hell do you have a picture of Alice from the Barady Bunch, as your avitar?

:mj122:

 

[Musca]

I like olympics new e-check deposit method- Keeps me from having to western union or other methods-

Reduced juice- Olympic is killing me right now on Soccer totals- They are carrying more soccer totals than anyother book but they are putting up lines like

Over -159 Under +105 or some shit- Puts me on a fifty cent line- kills me but if I want to play the total on that game they are the only ones offering it-

I agree with lower juice- WE all know the importance of that-

-110 vs -105 = 52.4% wins vs 51.5% almost a full % point lower in wins you have to average over time-

I mean hell you pick 52% at 105 and you make money (grinding it out)

Just think about that over a long haul-



I like cyber withdrawals, cyber deposits, and frankly never having to speak with customer service.

Jason

 

[kneifl]

kneifl........why the hell do you have a picture of Alice from the Barady Bunch, as your avitar?

ok, ok, not funny :cursin: :cursin:

Blackman, we all know it's #81's team....

kneifl

 

[yyz]

ok, ok, not funny :cursin: :cursin:

My bad..........I just noticed it was Mrs Doubtfire.