what do you think
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Al McMordie
Expert advice from the pros.
Game: St Louis Cardinals at Chicago Cubs Jun 23 2002 8:05PM
Sunday, June 23, 2002
Prediction: St Louis Cardinals
Reason: The Cardinals lost pitcher Darryl Kile Saturday, as Kile apparently died in his sleep. In sports, teams usually perform exceptionally well in the face of tragedy. Consider the Minnesota Vikings, who went undefeated in the preseason last year following the death of Korey Stringer. And then there was Northwestern's football team, who beat UNLV in their opener after losing a teammate at the end of the summer. I expect the Cards to win this game for their teammate, Darryl Kile. St. Louis will start Jason Simontacchi, who is a perfect 5-0 on the season with a 2.46 ERA. He'll remain unbeaten tonight.
Expert advice from the pros.
Game: St Louis Cardinals at Chicago Cubs Jun 23 2002 8:05PM
Sunday, June 23, 2002
Prediction: St Louis Cardinals
Reason: The Cardinals lost pitcher Darryl Kile Saturday, as Kile apparently died in his sleep. In sports, teams usually perform exceptionally well in the face of tragedy. Consider the Minnesota Vikings, who went undefeated in the preseason last year following the death of Korey Stringer. And then there was Northwestern's football team, who beat UNLV in their opener after losing a teammate at the end of the summer. I expect the Cards to win this game for their teammate, Darryl Kile. St. Louis will start Jason Simontacchi, who is a perfect 5-0 on the season with a 2.46 ERA. He'll remain unbeaten tonight.
i was thinking good, i loved them yesterday.....i think it's one of those games that they come out strong and if all goes well early they will build off of it and win, but if they get behide early they my not put of a fight using the past fews days as an excuse.....so i really think it depends on what kind of start they get off to.....
i know they really doesn't answer the question, so i'll have to go with YES, they will come out fighting and pick up a big win helping everyone through this difficult time.....
i know they really doesn't answer the question, so i'll have to go with YES, they will come out fighting and pick up a big win helping everyone through this difficult time.....
good point RAYMOND, i also think that the Cubs won't mind taking a loss tonight knowing that the Cards really need something to help get these past couple of days out of the minds of the players for abit and get back to having fun at the ball park.....
Hi Raymond
I was thinking about the game today also.
My opinion is that when a tragedy occurs with any team or organization the resolve of the remaining people to finish off the unfinished task (in this case winning the game) carries a lot of weight.
Last time their announcer died the team came out strong and won that game. So they have been throught this before even though this time it was a person who the whole team knew personally.
If i had to bet on this game I would definitely take St. Louis in a small way. I think the pitcher will also be fired up in this situation and mebbe Under will be a good play here.
Cheers !!!
Spock
I was thinking about the game today also.
My opinion is that when a tragedy occurs with any team or organization the resolve of the remaining people to finish off the unfinished task (in this case winning the game) carries a lot of weight.
Last time their announcer died the team came out strong and won that game. So they have been throught this before even though this time it was a person who the whole team knew personally.
If i had to bet on this game I would definitely take St. Louis in a small way. I think the pitcher will also be fired up in this situation and mebbe Under will be a good play here.
Cheers !!!
Spock
Just my humble opinion
Best Bet:
PASS
Even if the Cubs try to "let them win" are the Cards gonna have enough effort to capitalize? Neither team psyche can be great right now and I know that you are the master of breaking down the board and finding an edge. Good luck.
Best Bet:
PASS
Even if the Cubs try to "let them win" are the Cards gonna have enough effort to capitalize? Neither team psyche can be great right now and I know that you are the master of breaking down the board and finding an edge. Good luck.
I believe that when a key player is injured, the team usually uses that as a rallying point and often wins their next game. But this is completely different; there is no grieving when a player pulls a hamstring or has a sore arm. Toss in the Jack Buck death from last week and I think the Cardinals will definitely lack focus today. I wouldn't touch St Louis today; fade them or pass.
Pass for me. It may be a forced pass.........2 of my shops have it off the board. I cant add too much more without being repetitive. But, I had a rather odd thought about it yesterday. Since he is not an everyday position player, at least the team doesn't have to look at that "vacant" spot at his everyday position on the field. Today excepted, of course, as he was supposed to pitch .
Obvioulsy capping this game has gone out the window, and what remains is a question. How is the death of a teamate, friend, father, or son going to affect the outcome of an already unpredictable game? Even the best shrinks couldn't give you an accurate answer to that. People in the above posts have been talking about different reasons that the Cards will play well today, and that's great because that's their OPINION. But it's not based on anything solid. There are a million examples where teams have played their WORST games after a tragedy, and a million where teams have come out blazing their way to a victory and the easy cover.
Some of the posts mention times teams have come together, when a team has an injured player, or when there's a tragedy, and this may be true. But this is different. This was a totally unexpected death, of an all-star pitcher, with children and a young wife, who was totally "healthy" who suddenly died laying in his bed. This is a heck of a lot more serious than some injury, and probably considered BIGGER than a tragedy to the Cardinals organization and Kyle's family. So Raymond, to answer your question, the answer is....... There is no answer. There is NO way to tell how this particular team will react to this. I know that if my best friend died last night, I wouldn't even be able to write this longwinded response to your question, much less give a crap about winning a stupid baseball game. (and I played serious college sports) Every single player in the league will handle this differently, and so will every team. NOONE can honestly tell you how the Cards are going to react today. NOONE. They will react differently than the Indians might, or the A's might, or the Yankees might. To bet money on how you THINK a team will react to a tragedy is ludicriss. So for goodness sake pass on the game. You're way to good of a capper to be betting on a game based on a teams reaction to a cozmic tragedy. There's no reason to bet your hard earned money on anything but your obvious genious at capping like you always do.
PSF
Some of the posts mention times teams have come together, when a team has an injured player, or when there's a tragedy, and this may be true. But this is different. This was a totally unexpected death, of an all-star pitcher, with children and a young wife, who was totally "healthy" who suddenly died laying in his bed. This is a heck of a lot more serious than some injury, and probably considered BIGGER than a tragedy to the Cardinals organization and Kyle's family. So Raymond, to answer your question, the answer is....... There is no answer. There is NO way to tell how this particular team will react to this. I know that if my best friend died last night, I wouldn't even be able to write this longwinded response to your question, much less give a crap about winning a stupid baseball game. (and I played serious college sports) Every single player in the league will handle this differently, and so will every team. NOONE can honestly tell you how the Cards are going to react today. NOONE. They will react differently than the Indians might, or the A's might, or the Yankees might. To bet money on how you THINK a team will react to a tragedy is ludicriss. So for goodness sake pass on the game. You're way to good of a capper to be betting on a game based on a teams reaction to a cozmic tragedy. There's no reason to bet your hard earned money on anything but your obvious genious at capping like you always do.
PSF
Should be a very somber mood in Wrigley Field tonight. There will be a moment of silence just before the game, flags at half mast, no music played at all, and no "Take Me Out To The Ballgame" duing the 7th inning stretch. I don't see either team playing with a lot of intensity. Both teams will want to just get it over with. I expect a very low scoring game. If I play anything, it would be the under.
can't pass on a sunday night baseball, but i don't know what to pick yet, but i'm defently gonna bet on it. i'll post it later.
