What does it mean to take responsibility?

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From "What does it mean to take 'responsibility'?" by Raff Ellis
Americans had no problem making Saddam Hussein responsible for the crimes committed by his minions in pre-war Iraq. It was always Saddam's torture chambers, Saddam's rape rooms, Saddam's prisons, Saddam's murders, etc. It was never the acts of a group of untrained, misguided or demented people. No, the blame rolled all the way uphill to the top, as it should have. However, that's not the way it works here in America. You won't hear anyone say it was Bush's rape rooms or Bush's torture chambers or even Bush's prison. It was clearly the acts of a few poorly trained low-level people in the military who took it upon themselves to "soften up" prisoners for further interrogation. Yeah, right, no responsibility here.
And for those who say, "But the Iraqis, Muslims, Arabs -- (pick one) -- have done worse," in order to justify our behavior, I say it's not a case of who commits the greatest atrocity or a question of taking an eye for an eye, because that behavior debases you, your comrades and the rest of civilized society. It also sets one hell of an example of "democracy" in action.

Remember, the dust hadn't settled on 9-11 before we were blaming whole countries, if not an entire geographic region, for the acts of a few. We were not having it that this was the undertaking of a small group of deranged fanatics. So, now as the chickens are en route home, clucking all the way, will the responsibility and the punishment roll up the hill as it did for Saddam or will a half-dozen GIs take the fall? Don't hold your breath waiting for the answer on that one.
 

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Rummy took responsibility in his opening comments to the invetigative committee. Then he spent the following hours explaining how it wasn't his fault.
 

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Bush refuses to Condemn Torture supporters.

Bush refuses to Condemn Torture supporters.

Bush Refuses to Condemn Proponents of Torture


President Bush has publicly deplored the treatment of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib, having apologized for the fiasco. Yet, just days after his apology, the White House is refusing to condemn its right-wing allies who are making light of the situation and defending torture.

For instance, conservative radio host and White House supporter Rush Limbaugh this week called the torture "decent punishment," said soldiers were simply "having a good time, and also said "I don't see the big deal here"1. White House spokesman Scott McClellan refused to answer when asked how the President felt about those comments2. Additionally, when McClellan was asked whether Vice President Cheney would continue appearing on Limbaugh's show (as he did in March), McClellan again refused to comment3.

Similarly, Sen. James Inhofe (R-OK), who President Bush has repeatedly praised as an ally, said that he was "more outraged by the outrage" than by the abuse4. Inhofe also said that all the prisoners are "murderers, terrorists and insurgents"5 despite the fact that the Red Cross notes that between 70% and 90% of the Iraqi detainees were "arrested by mistake"6. The White House again has refused to rebut these comments, in stark contrast to other Republicans like Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) who said such comments are "undercutting us in terms of our international standing"7.

NOTE: Make sure to see the new television ad by Media Matters about Rush Limbaugh's comments at www.mediamatters.org.

Sources:
Media Matters for America.
Press Briefing by Scott McClellan, 05/06/2004.
Press Gaggle with Scott McClellan, 05/11/2004.
President Bush Calls on Congress to Act on Clear Skies Legislation, 09/16/2003.
Senator 'Outraged at Outrage' in Iraq Prison Case, Reuters, 05/11/2004.
Up to 90% of Iraqi detainees arrested by mistake, Red Cross says, Chicago Sun-Times, 05/11/2004.
Iraq prison debate takes partisan turn, Houston Chronicle, 05/11/2004.
 

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I've got something people should take responsibility for. Their weight. Something like over 60 or 70% of Americans are considered obese. It's disgusting and costs our nation billions in healthcare etc. People need to get off their lazy asses and exercise. It's not that hard to get in 30 minutes of exercise a day, or several days a week. It's just a small example of the laziness of Americans. Unless there is a background medical condition that causes someone's weight gain, i don't know how a lot of people look in the mirror and not get motivated to get themselves in shape. If you don't have your health, you've got nothing.
 
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