Well he complained a lot he was dealt a bad hand. Could not get much done with congress. He owns congress so thats strange. I guess after his next 4 years we be in same spot. Of course with him saying. Who me make mistake. Just think all you investors the market ends up again after four more years in same spot. That will mean you only lost how much? With his deficits could happen. Interest has only one way to go up. I believe to make it look good he might invade Iran next. I here they have real WMD not make believe. And they may even have help train some of the 9/11 folks. But we gave them a pass for 3 years now.
What has George W Bush done for America?
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The only thing Bush has covered is his families relationship with the Saudi royal family and his whereabouts in 1972.
Eddie
Eddie
Dr. Freeze said it pretty well. Bush has done alot of good things, & Raymond lists some of them.
Anyone voting for Kerry isn't voting for him b/c of what he stands for. How could they, who knows what he stands for? Beyond saying "I have a plan" , what has he told us ?
No, the fact is, all you guys that are voting for Kerry are really just voting AGAINST Bush.
No disrespect intended to anyone, but you should really take the time to learn what exactly John Kerry stands for. But, is that possible ? He doesn't ever say what that is. It's a shame that Cnn is allowed to form opinions for so many people who are unwilling to spend time learning the FACTS. Watching the evening news does not qualify you to make an educated decision.....
Do I like everything about Bush ? Of course not. I dislike this war, but we are in it.....we gotta win it ! Also, he spends wayyyy to much money, just to name a couple things. But, I believe he is a good, moral man. I don't see Sen. Kerry as either.
One last thing..... If the Republicans are for the "rich" , someone tell me why the actors & actresses all line up for the Democratic party, regardless of the candidate? I have been looking for that answer for a long time.......
Anyone voting for Kerry isn't voting for him b/c of what he stands for. How could they, who knows what he stands for? Beyond saying "I have a plan" , what has he told us ?
No, the fact is, all you guys that are voting for Kerry are really just voting AGAINST Bush.
No disrespect intended to anyone, but you should really take the time to learn what exactly John Kerry stands for. But, is that possible ? He doesn't ever say what that is. It's a shame that Cnn is allowed to form opinions for so many people who are unwilling to spend time learning the FACTS. Watching the evening news does not qualify you to make an educated decision.....
Do I like everything about Bush ? Of course not. I dislike this war, but we are in it.....we gotta win it ! Also, he spends wayyyy to much money, just to name a couple things. But, I believe he is a good, moral man. I don't see Sen. Kerry as either.
One last thing..... If the Republicans are for the "rich" , someone tell me why the actors & actresses all line up for the Democratic party, regardless of the candidate? I have been looking for that answer for a long time.......
Wouldn't put too much faith in snopes
According to Snopes
ie under Kerry They say his medals were NOT earned under fishy circumstances"
yea right.
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The 1993 World Trade Center: The purpetrators were all convicted and punished during the Clinton administration. We captured and convicted four followers of Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel Raham. The supposed mastermind, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, was captured (1995) and convicted (1997). All were sentenced to 240 years in prison. There is supposed to be one more suspect in this case that did escape capture. The last that was known of him, he was supposed to be living in Iraq. I suspect he may have fled there as well since coalition forces entered the country. HOW IS IT THAT BUSH "COVERED IT?"
-----depends who who the real master mind was
Until March 2003, al Qaeda's third-in-command was thought to be Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a tactical mastermind connected to nearly every major al Qaeda attack in the last decade, including the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Thought to be the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 attack, he was recently captured in Pakistan and is being held by the United States in an unknown location.
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on the Saudi you appear to be correct.
In the public main square of Riyadh, the 4 Saudi men accused of bombing the Saudi National Guard training center are beheaded. Prior to their execution, they confess to have read bin Laden communiqu?s.
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Ironically the rest are confirmed by snopes to have happened under Bushes watch despite in their denial ???????????
and Mr Kosar can you name any Slick was responsible for their capture???
We sure can name one offered twice that he didn't take.
Maybe we could expand the comparisons to corporate corruption running free in Clintons era and prosecuted under Bushes term now remembered I said prosectuted not pardoned
According to Snopes
ie under Kerry They say his medals were NOT earned under fishy circumstances"
yea right.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The 1993 World Trade Center: The purpetrators were all convicted and punished during the Clinton administration. We captured and convicted four followers of Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel Raham. The supposed mastermind, Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, was captured (1995) and convicted (1997). All were sentenced to 240 years in prison. There is supposed to be one more suspect in this case that did escape capture. The last that was known of him, he was supposed to be living in Iraq. I suspect he may have fled there as well since coalition forces entered the country. HOW IS IT THAT BUSH "COVERED IT?"
-----depends who who the real master mind was
Until March 2003, al Qaeda's third-in-command was thought to be Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, a tactical mastermind connected to nearly every major al Qaeda attack in the last decade, including the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Thought to be the mastermind behind the Sept. 11 attack, he was recently captured in Pakistan and is being held by the United States in an unknown location.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
on the Saudi you appear to be correct.
In the public main square of Riyadh, the 4 Saudi men accused of bombing the Saudi National Guard training center are beheaded. Prior to their execution, they confess to have read bin Laden communiqu?s.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ironically the rest are confirmed by snopes to have happened under Bushes watch despite in their denial ???????????
and Mr Kosar can you name any Slick was responsible for their capture???
We sure can name one offered twice that he didn't take.
Maybe we could expand the comparisons to corporate corruption running free in Clintons era and prosecuted under Bushes term now remembered I said prosectuted not pardoned
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Dogs why do you always go to Clinton?
Bugman How on earth could you say that anyone who is voting for Kerry is just voting anti bush?
Honestly 4 years ago how could anyone honestly say they liked Bush? They were strictly voting on name recognition and on party lines and anti gore Clinton.
Bugman How on earth could you say that anyone who is voting for Kerry is just voting anti bush?
Honestly 4 years ago how could anyone honestly say they liked Bush? They were strictly voting on name recognition and on party lines and anti gore Clinton.
Clem:
Let me answer for Wayne. His tact, has, is, and always will be, is to place blame at a democrats foot. If its Viet Nam, its Kennedy. If its 20% + interest rates its Carter. If its todays recession, its Clinton. If its Clintons boom years in the 90's, it was cause of Bush.
Consistent blame to the democrats and consistent praise for the Republicans. Wayne sees the world in black and white. Wayne sees only one side of an issue. Wayne argues, as do the Republicans, that if you say the same lies and spin over and over and over and over again, people will believe it.
Wayne is similar to Bush. During his run for governor of Texas, he created a campaign issue about crime. He ran ads saying that Texas' crime rate under Richards was horrible and ran the ads over and over again until the electorate before the election said the main issue facing Texas was crime.
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Bush created a need, then filled it. He used scare tactics the same way he does now. All Wayne is doing is deflecting attention from his boys record and blaming it on the Republicans favorite whipping boy. Get used to it.
By the way, the funniest ads I've heard this whole campaign have recently come out by Roveco and Bushco. The ads are alledging Kerry is using scare tactics. Now, thats a classic.
Eddie
Let me answer for Wayne. His tact, has, is, and always will be, is to place blame at a democrats foot. If its Viet Nam, its Kennedy. If its 20% + interest rates its Carter. If its todays recession, its Clinton. If its Clintons boom years in the 90's, it was cause of Bush.
Consistent blame to the democrats and consistent praise for the Republicans. Wayne sees the world in black and white. Wayne sees only one side of an issue. Wayne argues, as do the Republicans, that if you say the same lies and spin over and over and over and over again, people will believe it.
Wayne is similar to Bush. During his run for governor of Texas, he created a campaign issue about crime. He ran ads saying that Texas' crime rate under Richards was horrible and ran the ads over and over again until the electorate before the election said the main issue facing Texas was crime.
????????
Bush created a need, then filled it. He used scare tactics the same way he does now. All Wayne is doing is deflecting attention from his boys record and blaming it on the Republicans favorite whipping boy. Get used to it.
By the way, the funniest ads I've heard this whole campaign have recently come out by Roveco and Bushco. The ads are alledging Kerry is using scare tactics. Now, thats a classic.
Eddie
Raymond:
I have a job, a phenomenal career as a very successful and rich trial lawyer who earns millions every year, a slim, trim, cut body of an olymipic swimmer, a used, but certified, Lexus, charm, wit and brains, scintilating personality, season tickets to the Bengals, 25% share of season tickets to the Reds, a trophy wife, a girlfriend in Bensalem, a family worth in excess of 900 million, an Uncle Jorge, several million dollar homes in Rancho Segundo, an impeccable handicapping record and everything a great guy like me could ever hope to have.
Now if a guy like me is voting for Kerry I don't understand why everyone at this forum who is totally and completely envious of me and my life style doesn't follow suit. I guess if you vote for Bush you must be the opposite of the individual described above and do not wish to have life by the gonads. Oh well. c'est la vie.
Eddie
Eddie
I have a job, a phenomenal career as a very successful and rich trial lawyer who earns millions every year, a slim, trim, cut body of an olymipic swimmer, a used, but certified, Lexus, charm, wit and brains, scintilating personality, season tickets to the Bengals, 25% share of season tickets to the Reds, a trophy wife, a girlfriend in Bensalem, a family worth in excess of 900 million, an Uncle Jorge, several million dollar homes in Rancho Segundo, an impeccable handicapping record and everything a great guy like me could ever hope to have.
Now if a guy like me is voting for Kerry I don't understand why everyone at this forum who is totally and completely envious of me and my life style doesn't follow suit. I guess if you vote for Bush you must be the opposite of the individual described above and do not wish to have life by the gonads. Oh well. c'est la vie.
Eddie
Eddie
Why thank you for bringing up Bush vs crime Edward a few more positives on what bush has done--I was wondering why Kerry never brought up issue--usually a biggie with the liberals
in texas
George W. Bush has made Texas "safer." Gov. Bush vowed that Texas` Right to Carry law would make the state a "safer place," and statistics prove he was right. Texas` homicide rate has declined to its lowest point since the 1950s and has decreased a startling 60% from the high under his predecessor. Murder rates in Texas fell by 25% between 1995 and 1997, much faster than the 16% decline in states without "shall-issue" laws. Overall, Texas` total violent crime rate has dropped 20% under Gov. Bush and is lower than at any time since 1974.
Nationally
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WORKING TO MAKE AMERICA SAFER:
CRIME RATES HIT 30-YEAR LOWS
"The violent-crime rate has plunged to the lowest level in 30 years, but we view these impressive results as just the beginning. We are determined to drive down violent crime everywhere - especially in those places where habitual offenders are concentrated and communities live in fear of the violent and predatory. There are still far too many people in our nation who are victims of crime. That is why the Administration is charting a course to ensure that all Americans can walk the streets in their neighborhoods, play in our parks and work at their jobs without fear. To ensure that our communities become even safer, we must continue to work at preventing crime and holding accountable those who violate our laws."
- Attorney General John Ashcroft
Violent Crime Is at a 30-Year Low. The violent crime rate in 2002 plunged to the lowest point in 30 years, according to the Justice Department's National Crime Victimization Survey. It now stands at its lowest level since 1973, when the federal government started collecting crime victim data.
There were 980,000 fewer victims of violent crimes in 2002, than in 2000.
Violent crime has fallen in all regions of the country and also when measured by gender, race, age, or income.
Significant Decreases in Many Types of Crime. The rate of every major violent and property crime measured by the National Crime Victimization Study has fallen significantly in recent years. In the first two years of the Bush Administration, from the previous two years, America saw a:
21% drop in violent crime overall
27% drop in rape
40% drop in sexual assault
27% drop in robbery (in 2002, robbery hit its lowest rate in 30 years)
23% drop in aggravated assault (in 2002, aggravated assault hit its lowest rate in 30 years)
19% drop in simple assault (in 2002, simple assault hit its lowest rate in 30 years)
20% drop in forcible entry
14% drop in theft
Gun Crime Falls Dramatically. As the Bush Administration is prosecuting record numbers of gun crimes, we are reducing the number of gun-toting criminals on the streets and gun crime is dropping. Ensuring that individuals who commit gun crimes face hard time protects innocent Americans from becoming victims.
There were fewer victims of gun crimes in America during the two-year period of 2001-2002 than in any other two-year period since the early 1990s.
The firearm violence rate is about one-third of what it was just a decade ago.
There was a 14% drop in the per capita number of violent crimes involving firearms in 2001-2002, from the previous two years.
There were approximately 12% (almost 130,000) fewer victims of gun crime in 2001-2002, from the previous two years.
Decreasing Youth Crime: In 1993, there were about 44 incidents of serious violence experienced per 1,000 youth aged 12-17 (murder, rape, robbery, or aggravated assault), however, by 2002, the rate had dropped to 11 per 1,000. This is the lowest rate we have recorded since the National Crime Victimization Survey began 30 years ago. This means that over the last decade, nearly 4.2 million serious violent crimes against youth did not occur that would have occurred if the 1993 rate had remained stable rather than declining. Most importantly, nearly 10,000 murders of children did not occur over the decade because of the dramatic reduction in violence. This has been especially true for black males aged 14-17, for whom the murder rate is well below half what it was a decade ago.
Reducing School Crime: In 1995, 10% of school students were victimized by a crime of violence or theft while at school; in 2001, about 6% of students were victimized while at school. In addition, there has been a dramatic decline for children in the number and rate of those murdered with firearms - firearm deaths among children aged 14-17 have dropped by two-thirds since 1993.
Property Crime Rate Falls. The property crime rate has been declining steadily for nearly thirty years. Today, fewer than one-third as many Americans per capita are the victims annually of these types of crimes - burglary, theft, car theft - as were victimized in the mid-1970s.
Establishing Violent Crime Impact Teams in 15 Cities. In June 2004, Attorney General Ashcroft launched the Violent Crime Impact Teams to reduce crime by targeting the small number of violent and repeat felons who commit the vast majority of crimes in urban communities. By prosecuting gun-toting, drug-abusing neighborhood thugs and removing them from the streets, the goal is to improve the public safety of these communities for their residents. The 15 communities include:
Albuquerque, NM; Baltimore, MD; Chattanooga, TN; Tampa, FL; Miami, FL; Richmond, VA; Greensboro, NC; Tulsa, OK; Pittsburgh, PA; Las Vegas, NV; Columbus, OH; Philadelphia, PA; Los Angeles, CA; Tucson, AZ; and the Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia region.
The 15 communities were selected after examining a number of factors, including recent homicide and violent crime numbers, and the opportunity for law enforcement to make a significant difference in the community. In some of the targeted cities, crime rates have gone up and the VCIT teams aim to reduce that trend. In some cities, however, the crime rate has decreased. In those areas, the teams will focus on continuing and strengthening that trend.
Launching Project Safe Neighborhoods to Target Gun Crime. In May 2001, President George W. Bush made a commitment to protect the safety of our citizens by reducing gun crime through the vigorous enforcement of existing gun laws. Under Project Safe Neighborhoods, gun criminals are paying unprecedented penalties, and law-abiding Americans are enjoying unprecedented safety.
Setting Record for Federal Firearms Prosecutions. From FY 2000 to FY 2003, federal firearms prosecutions have increased by 68%. In FY 2003, the Department filed over 10,500 federal firearms cases - the highest number ever recorded by the Department. Also, 9,558 defendants originally charged with firearms offenses were convicted of violating federal firearms laws or other non-firearms offenses in FY 2003 - the largest number ever convicted in the federal system in a single year.
Charging and Convicting Record Numbers of Defendants. From FY 2002 to FY 2003, the number of defendants charged with federal gun crimes rose from approximately 10,600 to over 13,000, a record increase of almost 23%. These figures are the highest on record in a single year since the Justice Department began recording this information.
Tough Approach to Criminals Yields Results for American Families. Aggressive crime-fighting strategies have combined to yield more arrests, more convictions, and longer jail time - especially for violent criminals. The simple result is more criminals in prison, fewer criminals on our streets to commit crime, and safer neighborhoods for our family and friends.
http://www.usdoj.gov/01whatsnew/safer_america/crime_rates_lower.html
PS I am still waiting for contributions from the liberals in the What has Kerry Done --
so far we have--- graduated from Yale and served in military.Surely there must be something more in his life he has done??????
in texas
George W. Bush has made Texas "safer." Gov. Bush vowed that Texas` Right to Carry law would make the state a "safer place," and statistics prove he was right. Texas` homicide rate has declined to its lowest point since the 1950s and has decreased a startling 60% from the high under his predecessor. Murder rates in Texas fell by 25% between 1995 and 1997, much faster than the 16% decline in states without "shall-issue" laws. Overall, Texas` total violent crime rate has dropped 20% under Gov. Bush and is lower than at any time since 1974.
Nationally
THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION WORKING TO MAKE AMERICA SAFER:
CRIME RATES HIT 30-YEAR LOWS
"The violent-crime rate has plunged to the lowest level in 30 years, but we view these impressive results as just the beginning. We are determined to drive down violent crime everywhere - especially in those places where habitual offenders are concentrated and communities live in fear of the violent and predatory. There are still far too many people in our nation who are victims of crime. That is why the Administration is charting a course to ensure that all Americans can walk the streets in their neighborhoods, play in our parks and work at their jobs without fear. To ensure that our communities become even safer, we must continue to work at preventing crime and holding accountable those who violate our laws."
- Attorney General John Ashcroft
Violent Crime Is at a 30-Year Low. The violent crime rate in 2002 plunged to the lowest point in 30 years, according to the Justice Department's National Crime Victimization Survey. It now stands at its lowest level since 1973, when the federal government started collecting crime victim data.
There were 980,000 fewer victims of violent crimes in 2002, than in 2000.
Violent crime has fallen in all regions of the country and also when measured by gender, race, age, or income.
Significant Decreases in Many Types of Crime. The rate of every major violent and property crime measured by the National Crime Victimization Study has fallen significantly in recent years. In the first two years of the Bush Administration, from the previous two years, America saw a:
21% drop in violent crime overall
27% drop in rape
40% drop in sexual assault
27% drop in robbery (in 2002, robbery hit its lowest rate in 30 years)
23% drop in aggravated assault (in 2002, aggravated assault hit its lowest rate in 30 years)
19% drop in simple assault (in 2002, simple assault hit its lowest rate in 30 years)
20% drop in forcible entry
14% drop in theft
Gun Crime Falls Dramatically. As the Bush Administration is prosecuting record numbers of gun crimes, we are reducing the number of gun-toting criminals on the streets and gun crime is dropping. Ensuring that individuals who commit gun crimes face hard time protects innocent Americans from becoming victims.
There were fewer victims of gun crimes in America during the two-year period of 2001-2002 than in any other two-year period since the early 1990s.
The firearm violence rate is about one-third of what it was just a decade ago.
There was a 14% drop in the per capita number of violent crimes involving firearms in 2001-2002, from the previous two years.
There were approximately 12% (almost 130,000) fewer victims of gun crime in 2001-2002, from the previous two years.
Decreasing Youth Crime: In 1993, there were about 44 incidents of serious violence experienced per 1,000 youth aged 12-17 (murder, rape, robbery, or aggravated assault), however, by 2002, the rate had dropped to 11 per 1,000. This is the lowest rate we have recorded since the National Crime Victimization Survey began 30 years ago. This means that over the last decade, nearly 4.2 million serious violent crimes against youth did not occur that would have occurred if the 1993 rate had remained stable rather than declining. Most importantly, nearly 10,000 murders of children did not occur over the decade because of the dramatic reduction in violence. This has been especially true for black males aged 14-17, for whom the murder rate is well below half what it was a decade ago.
Reducing School Crime: In 1995, 10% of school students were victimized by a crime of violence or theft while at school; in 2001, about 6% of students were victimized while at school. In addition, there has been a dramatic decline for children in the number and rate of those murdered with firearms - firearm deaths among children aged 14-17 have dropped by two-thirds since 1993.
Property Crime Rate Falls. The property crime rate has been declining steadily for nearly thirty years. Today, fewer than one-third as many Americans per capita are the victims annually of these types of crimes - burglary, theft, car theft - as were victimized in the mid-1970s.
Establishing Violent Crime Impact Teams in 15 Cities. In June 2004, Attorney General Ashcroft launched the Violent Crime Impact Teams to reduce crime by targeting the small number of violent and repeat felons who commit the vast majority of crimes in urban communities. By prosecuting gun-toting, drug-abusing neighborhood thugs and removing them from the streets, the goal is to improve the public safety of these communities for their residents. The 15 communities include:
Albuquerque, NM; Baltimore, MD; Chattanooga, TN; Tampa, FL; Miami, FL; Richmond, VA; Greensboro, NC; Tulsa, OK; Pittsburgh, PA; Las Vegas, NV; Columbus, OH; Philadelphia, PA; Los Angeles, CA; Tucson, AZ; and the Washington, D.C./Northern Virginia region.
The 15 communities were selected after examining a number of factors, including recent homicide and violent crime numbers, and the opportunity for law enforcement to make a significant difference in the community. In some of the targeted cities, crime rates have gone up and the VCIT teams aim to reduce that trend. In some cities, however, the crime rate has decreased. In those areas, the teams will focus on continuing and strengthening that trend.
Launching Project Safe Neighborhoods to Target Gun Crime. In May 2001, President George W. Bush made a commitment to protect the safety of our citizens by reducing gun crime through the vigorous enforcement of existing gun laws. Under Project Safe Neighborhoods, gun criminals are paying unprecedented penalties, and law-abiding Americans are enjoying unprecedented safety.
Setting Record for Federal Firearms Prosecutions. From FY 2000 to FY 2003, federal firearms prosecutions have increased by 68%. In FY 2003, the Department filed over 10,500 federal firearms cases - the highest number ever recorded by the Department. Also, 9,558 defendants originally charged with firearms offenses were convicted of violating federal firearms laws or other non-firearms offenses in FY 2003 - the largest number ever convicted in the federal system in a single year.
Charging and Convicting Record Numbers of Defendants. From FY 2002 to FY 2003, the number of defendants charged with federal gun crimes rose from approximately 10,600 to over 13,000, a record increase of almost 23%. These figures are the highest on record in a single year since the Justice Department began recording this information.
Tough Approach to Criminals Yields Results for American Families. Aggressive crime-fighting strategies have combined to yield more arrests, more convictions, and longer jail time - especially for violent criminals. The simple result is more criminals in prison, fewer criminals on our streets to commit crime, and safer neighborhoods for our family and friends.
http://www.usdoj.gov/01whatsnew/safer_america/crime_rates_lower.html
PS I am still waiting for contributions from the liberals in the What has Kerry Done --
so far we have--- graduated from Yale and served in military.Surely there must be something more in his life he has done??????
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DOGS THAT BARK said:
Looks to me like neither Bush or Clinton were any too responsible for capturing any of them.
But then, I wasn't the one who posted a bunch of non-factual urban legend propaganda saying CLINTON COVERED IT!
We try to deal in facts around here, Wayne, and the facts are that Bush didn't cover anything.
Granted Matt the "covered it" post I made was in poor taste and I apologize but you must admit the al-Qaeda terrorist list of captured and killed in "Protection of America" thread is quite impressive in such a short time.
