More than offset by the $24 billion profit we made on the bank bailout. $1.3 billion to save Chrysler is a bargain.
What the people think
- Thread starter Duff Miver
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I point to him because he took 56 million dollars right out of the economy in one shot. One man. Multiply that by the all the money all these other pigs are taking out of the economy and you might begin to see what the "Job Creators" are doing to the country.
And Heaven forbid should he be taxed on pre-Bush tax cuts.
Why is it unfair to tax them?
Wait a minute...lemme' make sure I understand your line of thinking.
You live in the United States and you still believe and EXPECT a principle of fairness?
Hello?
If you don't come to your senses, you'll soon be talking about political ethics.
Stevie, it's a dysfunctional government system infected with arrogance, greed, corruption, deception, hypocrisy, immorality, etc.
C'mon Stevie....how long before you fully realize the folly and futility?
"See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, Redeeming the time, because the days are evil." ~ Ephesians 5:15-6
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There are approx. 4.4 million people on welfare. That's a little more than 1% of the population.
Based on your posts over the last 3 years, I'm convinced you actually believe they're responsible for the economic problems we face as a country.
Trench...that number was alot higher before Clinton wacked welfare...btw, were you on his side on that issue?
Eighty-eight million people get a monthly check from the government. Throw out the disabled, veterans and SSN (which is not an entitlement) and 80% of what is left over are millions of people who are reliant on the government instead of being self-reliant...that's not a good thing.
Stevie D...there are plenty of people out there like you who see success as luck and, "if only (fill in the excuse blaming others" that could have been me. If a guy makes $56million, good for him.
If someone else makes $5 an hour, maybe they deserve that based on the decisions they made in their life.
One thing for sure, when we are talking about successful people, typically they graduated from HS, don't have criminal records, didn't have two kids in their teens, stayed off drugs, worked hard and earned their success. When we talk about people who would call people with those success stories "pigs" we are usually looking at someone with the exact opposite of those traits.
Eighty-eight million people get a monthly check from the government. Throw out the disabled, veterans and SSN (which is not an entitlement) and 80% of what is left over are millions of people who are reliant on the government instead of being self-reliant...that's not a good thing.
Stevie D...there are plenty of people out there like you who see success as luck and, "if only (fill in the excuse blaming others" that could have been me. If a guy makes $56million, good for him.
If someone else makes $5 an hour, maybe they deserve that based on the decisions they made in their life.
One thing for sure, when we are talking about successful people, typically they graduated from HS, don't have criminal records, didn't have two kids in their teens, stayed off drugs, worked hard and earned their success. When we talk about people who would call people with those success stories "pigs" we are usually looking at someone with the exact opposite of those traits.
I've never claimed that social welfare's a good thing, Bob, but the fact remains that less than 1.5% of the (U.S.) population is on welfare and conservatives love to pretend that social welfare is the downfall of western civilization while ignoring the real welfare state -- corporate welfare in all its forms.
Of course I was. What sane person wasn't behind W2? :shrug:
You don't really believe the Dogs BS that because I'm a liberal, I must be on the gov. tit, do you? You strike me as more intelligent than that.
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I see you missed link with your Liberal Math
Your speaking of one program TANF --what about millions on ssi-medicade and have 44 million (1 in 7) on food stamps with 1/2 a million added last year--then you got 22 mil illegals your trying to bring on board-- DUH
--your prob is you got only bout 1/2 of population footing your bills--and they can/will no longer do it.
--and you actually believe we owe you and productive packing the parasites is no prob--
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What the people think is obvious--depending what side of fence they are on.
You have those who have lived their lives responsibly--by working-saving-spending within their means.
--and those that head to the mail box to pick up their checks because they do not work--they have have no savings--are on the top of every credit repair list known to man.
Boths sides will naturally gravitate to those they identify with. :shrug:
Of course there are more people on food stamps. That is what happens when all the "Job Creaters" send the jobs out of the country!
Explain this to me Bob. Why have the salaries of the PIG CEO's grown to almost 400% more than the average worker from about 10 times more. And this rise in the PIGS compensation happens to coincide with this recession.
In my example of how the $56 millon could of been distributed I still gave the CEO $6 million. But that wasn't enough for the PIG he wanted more. And as a result that $56 million is not creating jobs it is sitting somewhere doing nothing but inflating the PIGS ego.
I think anyone reading your post would agree that there is no point in debating you. Good luck in your life.
Bob,
holding a conversation or debate with muffins is like trying to remove all of the salt from the Pacific Ocean.
Just to answer for her,
TEABAGGERS !
I don't really agree. Think anyone reading your posts would think that if you do not have an answer you do a personal attack. You said something like because I called him a pig and was against him getting a 56 million dollar bonus, I somehow am uneducated and most likely spent time in prison. :shrug: Do you think he deserved that 56 million and that the spread between CEO and average worker is a good thing? A pretty simple question. And show me where I am wrong?
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He is the one who won't debate!
In fact you have an opinion on everything. Show me where I am wrong? Do you like the gap between CEO and Average worker expanding? Tell me why that is good for the country. Talk about muffins. Good God!
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Please show me where that happened.
Duff continues to rely on the ridiculous notion that this Keynesian/Bernake fraudenomics is going to UNFUCK US !
Then he is presented with an alternate view, he doesn't reply, what does he do?
The answer is pretty simple...
Maybe we are talking about different things. Bob wrote me off and called me a convict, and then you called me a muffin. Gees, I would hate to get the rep of being a muffin in prison, where low lifes like me who work for a living belong because we think a 56 million dollar bonus is pornographic and so is the rising spread between CEO and average workers pay.
Now, I never been to prison and I have not had a muffin years ,although to look at me you would never guess that. So maybe I am not the muffin you speak of. But I did used to like the corn muffin, hot with butter. MMMMMMMMMM
The money put up to start our business certainly is a whole lot more than anyone put as start up capital. In fact, no one put up any money.
I could go through the history of the company, how it evolved and all the property and buildings we have, but that would just be me telling you, it would be up to others to believe it or not.
As far as the Ford CEO,
again, Ford didn't get a handout.
They prospered because of GM being Government Motors. The people spoke with their check books. Whatever the Board of Directors approved the CEO to receive is up to them.
Are you privy to what he is going to do with that chunk of cash? I couldn't give a shit.
As far as my money, our money going to GM and the CEO of GE seated the right hand of the CHOSEN ONE ! I have some heartburn over that.
Again,
GE BUYS FLEET OF GM POS ELECTRIC CARS !
Aren't you just a little ticked off about that?
Aren't you just a little pissed off that Imelt is the Jobs Czar for Barry while GE doesn't pay a nickle in taxes while a majority of GE's jobs are shipped off to China?
Those piece of shit curly q light bulbs that WERE MADE IN OHIO BY GE, ARE NOW MADE IN.....
You are so worried about a company that has prospered without eating the peanuts out of Barry's shit, instead of the ones who do !
Didn't you hate the brown nosers in high school?
I know I certainly did and they were plentiful in the Army, they usually go a beat down.
Of course I am upset by all thart you mention. But why are you guys giving the CEO of Ford a free ride on that bonus. I know he didn't need bailout money. That was not the point. But speaking of that he cetainly benefited from the Cash for Clunkers and I do not remember him sending back all of those 7,000 checks.
And I hate brown noses even to this day never mind in high school.
I understand that you own a business. You sound like an old school guy as far as that is concerned. You have concern for your emplyees. Sadly, in most large corporatiins today that is not the point.
