What the world and America's doing about healthcare

Spytheweb

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You may have seen this before, Sick around the world, a look at how other countries setup their health care systems and what they do to keep costs down and cover everyone.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

This shows the system used in America and asks, will you be next?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundamerica/view/

This is T.R. Reid. I just watched this for the first time and has alot of info about world health care systems.

Did you know that medicare was modeled from a program in Canada called Medicare? Or that the swiss insurance companies have to pay a claim within 5 days or your next month's premiums are free? Germany started universal health care and workman's comp. about 1883? Doctor's medical schooling is free of cost in France and most of Europe?

http://fora.tv/2009/09/14/TR_Reid_The_Healing_of_America
 

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My wife has a brother ex military who decided to stay in Germany when he got out of the service.

They have universal health care.

he said that he pays 600 dollars per month and his wife pays 600 per month for pretty much full coverage for the two of them and one son.

Thats not cheap coverage imo

wonder what canadians pay a month
 

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My wife has a brother ex military who decided to stay in Germany when he got out of the service.

They have universal health care.

he said that he pays 600 dollars per month and his wife pays 600 per month for pretty much full coverage for the two of them and one son.

Thats not cheap coverage imo

wonder what canadians pay a month

This is from Pennsylvania's single payer bill

The funding system involves taxes. There, I've said it. OOOOH - the third rail!!!!!

Pause.

Breathe.

Good, lightening has not struck.

You say the word "taxes" and people seem to implode and lose their minds. What they forget, especially in this case, is that other costs offset the taxes. For example, pretend that you are currently employed, with a spouse and two kids. You receive health insurance through your job. The annual premium is $12,500 (which is about the median, depending on whose numbers you believe, the range of everything I've seen is about $11,600 to $15,500). You pay 20% of the premium, or, $2,500 annually. You earn $50,000/year. The tax would be 3% - that would be $1,500. Thus, you'd pay less in taxes than your current premium, plus, no deductibles or co-pays.

On the employer side, your employer is now paying $10,000 for your premiums (actually a little less because of the tax exclusion) or 20% of your pay. The tax to your employer would be 10% or $5,000, HALF of what it is paying now.

Covered services.

(a) Benefits package.--The board shall establish a single health benefits package within the plan that shall include, but
not be limited to, all of the following:

(1) All medically necessary inpatient and outpatient are and treatment, both primary and secondary.
(2) Emergency services.
(3) Emergency and other medically necessary transport to covered health services.
(4) Rehabilitation services, including speech, occupational, physical and massage therapy.
(5) Inpatient and outpatient mental health services and substance abuse treatment.
(6) Hospice care.
(7) Prescription drugs and prescribed medical nutrition.
(8) Vision care, aids and equipment.
(9) Hearing care, hearing aids and equipment.
(10) Diagnostic medical tests, including laboratory tests and imaging procedures.
(11) Medical supplies and prescribed medical equipment.
(12) Immunizations, preventive care, health maintenance care and screening.
(13) Dental care.
(14) Home health care services.
(15) Chiropractic and massage therapy.
(16) Complementary and alternative modalities that have been shown by the National Institute of Health's Division of Complementary and Alternative Medicine to be safe and effective for possible inclusion as covered benefits.
(17) Long-term care for those unable to care for themselves independently and including assisted and skilled care.
(b) Exclusions for preexisting conditions.--The plan shall not exclude or limit coverage due to preexisting conditions.

(c) Copayments, deductibles, etc.--Beneficiaries of the plan are not subject to copayments, deductibles, point-of-service
charges or any other fee or charge for a service within the package and shall not be directly billed nor balance billed by
participating providers for covered benefits provided to the beneficiary. Where a beneficiary has directly paid for
nonemergency services of a nonparticipating provider, the beneficiary may submit a claim for reimbursement from the plan for the amount the plan would have paid a participating provider for the same service. Where emergency services are rendered by a nonparticipating provider, the beneficiary shall receive reimbursement of the full amount paid to such nonparticipating provider not to exceed 125% of the amount the plan would have paid a participating provider for the same service.
http://www.demconwatchblog.com/diary/2058/what-is-single-payer-is-it-socialized-medicine
 

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My wife has a brother ex military who decided to stay in Germany when he got out of the service.

They have universal health care.

he said that he pays 600 dollars per month and his wife pays 600 per month for pretty much full coverage for the two of them and one son.

Thats not cheap coverage imo

wonder what canadians pay a month

That is fantastic! I get to pay $15K a year and the freeloaders on welfare get a free ride. Only in America can this be real.
 

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That is fantastic! I get to pay $15K a year and the freeloaders on welfare get a free ride. Only in America can this be real.
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My wife has a brother ex military who decided to stay in Germany when he got out of the service.

They have universal health care.

he said that he pays 600 dollars per month and his wife pays 600 per month for pretty much full coverage for the two of them and one son.

Thats not cheap coverage imo

wonder what canadians pay a month
If it costs $600 a month, it ain't Universal Healthcare Scotty. Sounds more like lipstick on a German pig to me.
 
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