What we learned from McNabb's stunning trade to Washington

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Philadelphia wasn't as worried about trading its iconic QB as Green Bay was.You don't make a trade of this magnitude unless you're in a 'win-now' mode
Most of the younger playmakers were actually tighter with Kevin Kolb than McNabb

Five observations about Philadelphia's Sunday night trade of Donovan McNabb to Washington:

1. Philly's not afraid of No. 5.
McNabb being moved after 11 seasons as an Eagle was something that had started to feel inevitable in the past 10 days or so. But McNabb being dealt to the division rival Redskins, where he could conceivably haunt his former team twice every season, that's the stunner.

Obviously, the Eagles aren't worried about McNabb rubbing their face in it the same way Green Bay was desperate to not play against Brett Favre as a Viking. The Packers made sure to deal Favre away to the AFC-based Jets in the summer of 2008, believing the further away he got from the NFC North, the better. When the reports surfaced that Oakland was the leader in the McNabb trade talks last week, it looked like the Eagles were thinking roughly the same thing: Don't let No. 5 come back to beat us.

But apparently not, which speaks volumes about either Philadelphia's level of respect for new starting quarterback Kevin Kolb's game, or its lack of respect for where McNabb's game is headed as he enters his 12th NFL season. Either way, the Eagles didn't worry about the revenge factor when it comes to McNabb, they were just after the best possible trade partner. And with the 37th pick in a very deep 2010 draft to dangle, that proved to be the Redskins. NFC East, or not. That makes Redskins at Eagles this season's must-see game of the year, akin to Favre's return to Lambeau in 2009. And Eagles at Redskins won't be too shabby, either.

2. Washington's in win-now mode with new head coach Mike Shanahan.
You don't go after a starting quarterback who turns 34 in November because you see yourself in the early stages of a rebuilding program. You get McNabb because you think he still gives a team a window of Super Bowl opportunity, and you're intent on seizing it.

Dealing for McNabb says the Redskins don't have to feel pressured to take a quarterback like Jimmy Clausen with their No. 4 overall pick this year, or make an even bolder move by trading up in the Rams' No. 1 slot for Sam Bradford. They can sit tight and go in whatever direction they feel best, perhaps adding the starting offensive left tackle they so desperately need in Oklahoma State's Russell Okung.

Come what may, McNabb gets 2010 to show where he can take the Redskins, and then we find out how long the relationship might last. Washington probably winds up extending McNabb before he ever takes a snap as a Redskin, because having him play out the final year of his contract isn't the signal you're trying to send with this move. You're getting him because you think he's still one of the best quarterbacks in the game, and he's got another two or three years of playing at a high level left in him.

Does McNabb preclude the Redskins from taking a quarterback of the future in this draft? Definitely not. But it probably isn't good news for Clausen's shot to go fourth overall, unless Washington trades down out of that slot. The Redskins could still trade the 28-year-old Jason Campbell and draft a quarterback to develop behind McNabb for a while. But if they do that, McNabb would ironically be right back in the same situation he faced in Philadelphia, with Kolb drafted in 2007's second round with the expressed intent to eventually take his job.

For the Redskins, the move seems to underline the belief that Shanahan, 57, is not interested in having a long tenure in Washington, just a three or four-year run with a hefty salary, before hopefully turning things over to his son, current Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan. First and foremost, this is a trade for 2010. Like in the old days when head coach George Allen first hit town almost 40 years ago, the future is now again in Washington.

3. McNabb will be hailed in D.C., but not greatly missed in Philly.
With his track record of accomplishment, and Washington's long drought of legitimate Super Bowl contention, McNabb will get and certainly deserves a bit of the rock-star treatment from the Redskins. He's played in five of the past nine NFC title games, and that must sound like nirvana for Washington's frustrated fans, who have endured the likes of Patrick Ramsey, Danny Wuerffel, Gus Frerotte, and Heath Shuler in the past two decades.

McNabb makes the Redskins instantly better at the game's most pivotal position, and maybe the last time Washington had a QB approaching his expertise was when Joe Theismann was in his prime (and yes, we know Mark Rypien won a Super Bowl in Washington).

But, know this, too: The belief that McNabb's departure will leave a giant-sized leadership void in the Eagles locker room simply isn't true. Sources close to the situation in Philadelphia have told me in recent months that McNabb does not have close relationships with the younger Eagles play-makers like DeSean Jackson, LeSean McCoy and Jason Avant. Those players are actually tighter with Kolb, who came to Philadelphia in 2007. So many of McNabb's closest friends on the Eagles are now ex-Eagles. As a tight veteran group, they won a lot of games in Philadelphia and went to a Super Bowl together, but many of them have moved on in the past two or three years.

"It's not going to be the huge leadership hole in the locker room that some portray,'' a club source said. "I think guys will miss him to some degree, but it's not as if he was beloved by this particular group of his teammates. The younger guys have only played with him for a year or two, and they're not as close to Donovan as they are to Kolb.''

4. The Redskins are still the Redskins.
They've been painfully quiet this offseason so far, way more quiet than we're used to seeing the Redskins be under the 11-year ownership tenure of Daniel Sndyer. But even after they sat out most of free agency, the Redskins still found a way to make the kind of splash they're known for in acquiring McNabb.

I'm not ready to say that McNabb's arrival changes the calculus in the NFC East, where I still see Dallas, New York and Philadelphia all having more pieces of the puzzle put together as we await the 2010 draft.

But if nothing else, Washington has to be taken more seriously, having added two proven commodities like Shanahan and McNabb in the past three months. Coaching and quarterbacking are two keys to success in the NFL, and how can anyone not acknowledge the Redskins' have upgraded both areas dramatically since their 2009 season ended? McNabb and Shanahan bring relevance back to the Redskins.

5. Philadelphia had to make this move.
In the NFL, they say you're either rising or falling, and there's no in between. But I don't know if I buy that, because the Eagles are one franchise where the status quo was locked in place -- and it had become synonymous with failure of a sort.

Which team in the NFC wouldn't have traded places with Philadelphia in the past nine years, with the Eagles going to five conference championship games and one Super Bowl? But McNabb had come to personify Philly being consistently good, but never great. And it was hard to see the storyline ever changing dramatically with him still under center for the Eagles.

Yes, McNabb was the greatest quarterback in Philadelphia franchise history, and Kolb faces huge shoes to fill in that respect. But in the end I think Andy Reid made this deal because he couldn't stomach one more season that held such promise, but ended in disappointment.

The 2009 Eagles were the perfect example of the maddening pattern that seemingly never ended in Philadelphia. Late in the year, the Eagles looked unstoppable on offense and were easily the NFC's most dangerous team. But then, with a No. 2 seed on the line, the Eagles fell flat in Week 17 at Dallas, dropped to the NFC's sixth seed, and wound up losing again the following week to the Cowboys in the first round of the playoffs. One and done.

Maybe in time the Eagles will regret this trade, and miss McNabb's winning ways in the regular season. But I understand why something had to change in Philly. The Eagles may not be better right away with Kolb. But it was time to be different. The status quo, as good as it was, wasn't enough any more.
 

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I think McNabb will be the King of D.C.....let's all be honest Redskins are 2nd to none in the DMV(d.c md , va)..
Let's go over this...
The Wizards have been bottom shelf for about 25-30yrs..
Nationals are a joke...I went to a game with my family(4 tix) awesome seats $60 for all 4...so many empty seats...
Terps are OK , but very little coverage of them..same for Georgetown...

Caps are awesome but there followers are tiny compared to the hogs fans...

McNabb will be welcomed with open arms...D.C will embrace him...trust me there will be no boo's or fans running him out of town...I gotta feeling McNabb is gonna look good in the burgundy and gold....HAIL!
 

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A yahoo article(You can archive it if you want)stated that Philly in no way wanted to trade McNabb to Wash.

However when McNabb slighted the trade proposals to Buff,Oakland and I do believe Denver(not 100%) even threatening to retire or even worse play for Philly,Management was stuck in a tough position.

McNabb demanded to be traded to Wash when they showed interest to the point that Phillys hands were tied,a gun to your head so to speak.

In no way did Philly trade McNabb to Wash. with no worries on there end that needs to get out there.
 

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McNabb Stonewalled Raiders, Other Suitors



Apparently, Donovan McNabb(notes) really didn?t want to play for the Raiders.

Yahoo! Sports reports the new Redskins quarterback would have retired if he had been traded to Oakland.

The Raiders shouldn?t feel too rejected, though. McNabb also passed on an offer to play for the Bills, who were willing to give him a contract extension, according to the report.

Eagles coach Andy Reid said after McNabb?s trade to Washington on Sunday that the team wanted what was best for the quarterback, but the Yahoo! report suggests McNabb left Philadelphia little choice regarding trade destinations.

When told last month that the Eagles would not trade him to division rival Washington, McNabb refused to talk with any other suitors, essentially forcing Philly?s hand, according to the report.

Now, McNabb will be able to play his former team twice a year. With concerns about new Philly starter Kevin Kolb?s(notes) experience, and about McNabb?s desire for quick revenge, SN?s Clifton Brown warns the trade could backfire on the Eagles.

SN?s Vinnie Iyer believes the Eagles made the Redskins stronger, saying the combination of McNabb and new coach Mike Shanahan will be a winning one for Washington. Furthermore, AccuScore analysis suggests the ?Skins will get a boost from the trade, while the Eagles won?t be hurt greatly.
 

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i can`t remember a better player that was more maligned...

all due respect to philly fans,but you guys suck....

:mj07: Philly fans love guys like u who might watch two games a year Mcnab plays and then tell us that we are wrong about this mediocre quarterback. It is time to cut the cord.
 

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McNabb will be welcomed with open arms...D.C will embrace him...trust me there will be no boo's or fans running him out of town...I gotta feeling McNabb is gonna look good in the burgundy and gold....HAIL!

Let me hear back from ya when he starts over throwing passes as well as short hoping them. The guy is mediocre at best and now offensive lineman are running him down. If Washington doesn't address their offensive line then u guys made a horrible mistake. It still is an upgrade and u should be at least better than the Eagles who have done nothin this off season to improve.
 

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The talking heads are out in full force on how wonderful Mcnab is (of course a guy like Weasel sucks it right up) but why if he is this so called great quarterback nobody wanted him:shrug: . You would think the phones would have been ringing off the hook. The guy just isnt a winner and never comes up big in big games.
 

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I never have cared much for McNabb

I doubt he will be a dominating QB enough to beat Philly in Philly

Kolb showed alot of promise. You got to get Kolb in the first team now or never.

I think its a better deal for Philly picking up the 37 pick which in this deep draft is like getting a #1 pick from Washington.
 

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The talking heads are out in full force on how wonderful Mcnab is (of course a guy like Weasel sucks it right up) but why if he is this so called great quarterback nobody wanted him:shrug: . You would think the phones would have been ringing off the hook. The guy just isnt a winner and never comes up big in big games.

This doesn't make sense.How is teams like Buff and Oakland who have QB issues not wanting him?

He wanted to play for a contender and adding McNabb makes the Skins instant contenders IMO.

I'm sure numerous teams inquired about him.How many we just don't know.
 

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This doesn't make sense.How is teams like Buff and Oakland who have QB issues not wanting him?

He wanted to play for a contender and adding McNabb makes the Skins instant contenders IMO.

I'm sure numerous teams inquired about him.How many we just don't know.

u would think this so called superstar the talking heads would like to fool u into beliving would have people knocking down the Eagles door. You think if this was Manning, Brady, Brees, Rivers etc.. people would have come a knockin?
 

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I never have cared much for McNabb

I doubt he will be a dominating QB enough to beat Philly in Philly

Kolb showed alot of promise. You got to get Kolb in the first team now or never.

I think its a better deal for Philly picking up the 37 pick which in this deep draft is like getting a #1 pick from Washington.

All depends on the betting line scotty. If it is low he will win in Philly. That is just how the NFL rolls.
 

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This doesn't make sense.How is teams like Buff and Oakland who have QB issues not wanting him?

He wanted to play for a contender and adding McNabb makes the Skins instant contenders IMO.

I'm sure numerous teams inquired about him.How many we just don't know.

rusty...don`t confuse spongy with the facts....he was one of the throwbacks that was cheering when that group of visiting fans was attacked by an angry philly mob....

spongy`s like an unemployed teacher...no class...
 

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Kolb will be a fantasy football top 5 qb this year, yeah I said it...I think its a good move for Phily and Washington had Jason Campbell as the qb:142smilie win, win for both teams, imo...
 

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What we also learned from the McNabb signing is that this guy is NOT the answer at QB for the Redskins.

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rusty...don`t confuse spongy with the facts....he was one of the throwbacks that was cheering when that group of visiting fans was attacked by an angry philly mob....

spongy`s like an unemployed teacher...no class...







weasey i havent been to a game in 10 years :mj07: I will be going to my first game Opening day Monday. Im almost being forced to go cause it is my buddy an electrician who i need work from. I couldn't give to shits if any Philly team wins or loses. Oh wait a second. I will be betting that shitty Washington team cause Philly always stiff it on opening day as all the guys somehow forget how to hit:mj07: . It is almost like printing money every year. Oh when they suck they win on opening day tho since usually they are not being bet. I just have to becareful tho cause this is a bad bad team i am betting. If the Phils sweep this shithole in Washington i am gauranteeing the Phils will lose in Philly to this same bad team. Oh by the way Weasy ten Philly fans who act like assholes isn't a bad number since there are 5 million of them. I wonder if my favorite all time player Richie Allen will be there. Maybe Willie Montanez?
 

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I think McNabb will be the King of D.C.....let's all be honest Redskins are 2nd to none in the DMV(d.c md , va)..
Let's go over this...
The Wizards have been bottom shelf for about 25-30yrs..
Nationals are a joke...I went to a game with my family(4 tix) awesome seats $60 for all 4...so many empty seats...
Terps are OK , but very little coverage of them..same for Georgetown...

Caps are awesome but there followers are tiny compared to the hogs fans...

McNabb will be welcomed with open arms...D.C will embrace him...trust me there will be no boo's or fans running him out of town...I gotta feeling McNabb is gonna look good in the burgundy and gold....HAIL!

hey you forgot the orioles :mj07:
 

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Grading the McNabb Trade....

Grading the McNabb Trade....

On a near picture-perfect Easter Sunday on the East Coast, the Philadelphia Eagles sent shock waves through the NFL by trading long-time quarterback Donovan McNabb to the rival Washington Redskins.

The Eagles will receive a second-round pick (37th overall) in this month's NFL Draft and a either a third- or fourth-rounder from the Redskins in 2011

While the timing of the deal was a tad peculiar, it's the destination that is raising eyebrows.

Washington had been mentioned in rumors as a potential destination for McNabb, who dominated headlines in recent weeks as Andy Reid softened on his loyalty to #5, but trading him within the tough NFC East wasn't something that seemed to be a real possibility.

Philadelphia always flashes good business sense, cutting ties with fan favorites and still-talented veterans in favor of younger, cheaper players regardless of emotional attachment. Until Sunday night, McNabb was the only member of Reid's roster that was exempted from such a move, especially since he appears to have at least another season or two of above-average play left.

McNabb was Reid's first pick as the head coach of the Eagles, who took him second overall in 1999 after the Cleveland Browns grabbed fellow quarterback Tim Couch. Over the last 11 seasons, the pair have become Philadelphia legends in every sense of the word.

McNabb will be considered the most decorated player in franchise history until someone else comes along and maintains a high level of play for as long, but the reactions in the Quaker State varied drastically following the trade announcement.

The city of Philadelphia often gets knocked around as both the best and worst in professional sports, and the shouting after McNabb was dealt to the Redskins included both exclamations of joy and frustration filled with expletives.

In many ways, the Eagles have been 'the boy who cried wolf' over the last few years. Every offseason McNabb's name was mentioned in trade rumors and every fall he was still in green-and-black. The fans forever showed impatience with him, but the organization seemed to always stick by him.

In terms of simply dealing McNabb, a trade makes sense. He's in the final year of his contract and moving him now assures the Eagles that they'll get something in return for him while his value also remains fairly high. A second-rounder (in addition to a pick next April) is good value and in-season deals, especially involving quarterbacks, aren't as prevalent in the NFL as they are in the three other major sports.

Still, trading him within the division comes as somewhat of a shock.

The Eagles will have to face McNabb twice in 2010, including once at Lincoln Financial Field where the reception he receives will be something to behold. There will undoubtedly be some boo-birds, but it wouldn't be shocking if he received the largest ovation of anyone prior to the game.

Washington is undergoing a transition with new coach Mike Shanahan and now a new quarterback in McNabb, but the same could be said for the Eagles, who go from a seasoned veteran to a still unknown commodity in Kevin Kolb.

McNabb, 33, has 148 games under his belt, having thrown for 32,873 yards, 216 touchdowns and 100 interceptions. Kolb, on the other hand, will be 26 when the season begins and has appeared in just 12 games. He has 885 yards, four touchdowns and seven interceptions to his credit.

Kolb was impressive in two starts this past September while McNabb nursed an injury, but two games (a win and a loss) is hardly enough to prove your weight as a starting NFL quarterback. Scouts and team officials have long raved about Kolb and his abilities, some even suggesting that he's better-suited for the West Coast offense than McNabb, and it won't be long before we found out exactly what he has in his right arm.

There is another quarterback in the mix as well, a certain Michael Vick. He moves up to No. 2 and stands just a tweaked ankle or bruised shoulder away from becoming a starting quarterback in the NFL after a tumultuous few years. Just eight months ago, that would have seemed like an unlikely possibility.

Following the trade, the Eagles have 11 picks in the draft and I wouldn't be surprised if they used one on a quarterback in the event that Kolb isn't the future and Vick can't handle the reigns either.

No matter how well Kolb does out of the gate, the Eagles will likely take a step back in 2010. The Redskins have now upgraded at quarterback, created a stable of running backs that all have premier pasts and added a Hall of Fame coach. The Giants and Cowboys didn't end last season on the best note, New York more so than Dallas, but neither have taken steps back this offseason. The immediate future of the Eagles is hard to forecast.

The McNabb rumors, however, went further than ever before this spring and in recent days it almost appeared as though the Eagles reached the point of no return. Reid, months after saying that McNabb would be his starter in 2010, admitted to listening to offers for his quarterbacks and news that Vick would remain in Philadelphia all but spelled the end for either McNabb or Kolb.

Grade for Philadelphia: B-

The Eagles could have bumped their grade up had they dealt McNabb outside of the division and maybe even higher had they sent him to the AFC. They got good value for their franchise player and may be vindicated if he starts to decline away from the only NFL home he's ever known.

Reid and Philadelphia's front office, including owner Jeffery Lurie and president Joe Banner, deserve some praise for not allowing emotional attachment to alter the decision-making process. They have been stuck in neutral since losing to the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX and at the very least they are showing that the status quo isn't acceptable.

The acquisition of another second-round pick will allow the Eagles to continue adding young, cheap pieces as they remain at least respectable in one of the toughest divisions in all of sports.

Grade for McNabb: A-

No matter how hot his seat got in Philadelphia, McNabb always kept a smile on his face and trotted out on the field for the Eagles. There's no telling what he's really feeling inside, but leaving his home of 11 years isn't going to be an easy endeavor.

However, he will move to a familiar team, play at a familiar stadium in FedEx Field and still face the Cowboys and Giants twice a year. He'll also have a legendary coach in Shanahan to help ease the transition.

Washington has some weapons for McNabb to use, like tight end Chris Cooley and wide receivers Santana Moss, Malcolm Kelly and Devin Thomas. Although, that crop certainly doesn't compare to the cast of receivers he passed the ball to in Philadelphia.

With that said, he won't have to play for the inept Raiders or wait for Brett Favre to make up his mind in Minnesota; the starting job should be his to lose in Washington. His experience, having led the Eagles to five NFC Championship games in 11 years, will be very valuable to the Redskins.

Also, you can't look past the fact that he'll have a chance to show the Eagles what they gave up on twice this coming season.

Grade for the Redskins: B+

The quarterback position as been a point of contention for quite a while in Washington. They've had Jason Campbell, Todd Collins, Mark Brunnell, Patrick Ramsey, Tim Hasselbeck, Danny Wuerffel, Shane Matthews, Tony Banks, Jeff George and Brad Johnson since McNabb landed in Philadelphia.

For the first time in well over 10 years, the Eagles will start an established quarterback. If Shanahan implements his principles and practices quickly enough, there isn't any reason why Washington can't at least contend for a postseason berth. They can now use the fourth overall pick to fill another hole on their roster, whether it be by selecting a rookie or trading down for a lower selection and a veteran in return.

The risk of adding McNabb is also much lower than using a high, costly pick on a quarterback that could disappoint at the professional level.

McNabb will be playing without a contract past 2010, assuming the Redskins don't look to extend him in the coming days. He isn't the type to be motivated by financial concerns, but will be trying to prove to the NFL that the Eagles made a mistake by cutting ties with their franchise leader in almost every possible statistical category.

If nothing else, this trade will create some great television. I'd be willing to bet my first born that both Philadelphia-Washington games will be nationally televised, perhaps in prime-time, and now a rivalry that was getting a little stale (the Eagles have won 11 of 16) has been given a shot of extra juice.

I've always maintained that the city of Philadelphia wouldn't realize how good they had it with McNabb until he was gone.

That time could be drawing near.
 

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Doesn't this theory seem a little strange ?

Doesn't this theory seem a little strange ?

Did Eagles trade McNabb so Redskins wouldn't draft Bradford?

Posted by Michael David Smith on April 8, 2010 12:31 PM ET

Why did the Philadelphia Eagles trade their starting quarterback, Donovan McNabb, to the division rival Washington Redskins? The trade could have been motivated in part to keep Washington from drafting Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford.

At least, that's the theory floated by Adam Schefter of ESPN, who reports that multiple NFL executives firmly believe that the Eagles wanted to block the Redskins from taking Bradford. The executives Schefter talked to say the Eagles are high on Bradford and don't want to have to play against him twice a year for the next decade.

So the Eagles figured that if they shipped McNabb to Washington and took two draft picks from the Redskins in the process, they'd make the Redskins less likely to want to draft a quarterback and also take away some of the picks the Redskins would have needed to move up and take Bradford.

There's a perception among many league observers that teams shouldn't make trades within their divisions because it's dangerous to strengthen a divisional opponent's roster. But maybe the Eagles think that what really would have strengthened the Redskins is drafting Bradford.
 
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