Where are you Michael Moore?

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The man moveon'd the American public to give Conservatives an across the board victory!!!!

His fat ass is so out of touch with the citizenry!!!

Wonder how it feels to be him today!!!

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I think Kerry's wife had some help in costing the jobs also, i really mean this i think her mouth cost Kerry lot of votes IMO, like i said i would of been behind who ever won because the house and sen really run the us, looks like they are the ones to watch because we don't have a great checks and balance system in place looks like it is tilted 1 way and IMO tat is not good. But kerry's wife hurt him don't know how much but no way can people say she did not.

as for big mike he is out snacking on a foot long sub:D
 

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I'm sure big Mike will make up a whole bunch of new accusations and half truths. He'll make a few million more while doing it. I hope he crawls back in his hole.
 

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heres one not getting much material ;)

The advance ticket sale for "Whoopi," (search) a reworking of the 1984 Broadway show that launched her career, has yet to break $750,000, theater sources say.

That's a far cry from the $8 million Billy Crystal has already racked up for his one-man show, "700 Sundays," and only about half of what Dame Edna, a cult figure, has earned.

The word on Broadway is that Goldberg, once the highest-paid actress in Hollywood, may have damaged her box-office allure through a combination of overexposure on television and vulgar political tirades that might be offputting to some theatergoers
 

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All I know is........

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i honestly had a hard time working up a dislike for kerry....the campaign was negative and dirty all the way around.....

best of luck to kerry...i honestly believe the guy has the best interests of the country at heart.....just a different philosophy....i can`t hate him for that....

.....i don`t hate democrats.....at least the ones that aren`t malicious bomb throwers....they are patriots and love the country....

but guys like moore sealed the deal for me.......i`m so glad this tub of goo took it up the ass.....

seeing moore`s pitiful attempts to defame bush go down in flames gives me immense joy....

i think the dems would be very smart in the future to put distance between themselves and radicals like moore and the hollywood crew.........

and get a little closer to the heartland...
 

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despite the fact that moore is fat and exaggerates too much. he's dead on in is exposing of much corruption in corporate america and in the political leaders owned by them.

it's too bad personality ruins what could otherwise be some worthwhile material. f-911 was full of exaggerations and obvious bias -BUT THE CONNECTIONS between the Bush family and the Saudi's (including BinLaden) is irrefutable. You can dismiss this stuff because it's from Moore - but it doesn't make it any less true.
 

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smurphy....so then lets bring up connections to Saudi in a mature manner and discuss the issues instead of propagandize them!!!

buffoons like Moore seem to think that conservatives are opposed to corporate crime being exposed but NOTHING is further from the truth....

similary, lets get any improper relationships with the Saudi's exposed if it is doing our national security a disservice....lets discuss it REASONABLY instead of irrationally....

the democratic party needs to return to appealing to reason and NOT emotionalism....
 

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Your right - the Dems should have better voices. Moore is not a help to the electability of any of them.

So what do we do about Halliburton right now? Cheney? Will the Republicans properly punish him if these no-bid contract charges are, as they appear to be, valid?

And that's just the tip of the iceberg - again - so much has been exposed - but because of who is doing the exposing, for some reason - it all gets dismissed.
 

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well all government contracts have some degree of wasteful spending....and to be honest, i dont think Halliburton is extremely wasteful in this context....

not too sure how to handle no-bid contracts...especially in the context of war....and the way local governments handle bidded contracts -- these always create problems...issues of quality and bang for your buck are hard to differentiate among companies.....this on the local level....whole new ballgame on the national scene....

but its an issue we need to discuss and have discourse about...how do we handle these contracts....best to do such things out of the heat of political context as repetitive shallow-meaning buzzwords will not predominate

and how do we handle politicians with secondary financial interest incompanies whether it be Cheney or a senate minoirity leader's lobbying wife

lets fix these problems....but only way to do so is to first eliminate the rhetoric
 

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The partisan politics are too strong. Halliburton will get away, Cheney will get away. If we let a Republican controlled Legislative, Executive, and soon to be Judial branch make the rulles and set the punishments, you know exactly what will happen.

I'm sure it's much the same if the Dems controlled everything - BUT it just happens to be that this administartion is closely tied to big energy and Saudi business, instead of just a ketchup company.

That seriously compromises the public.
 

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not necessarily....elections every 2 years....Republicans don't want this to be their '94

see the cheney rhetoric has to stop...these accusations are all presumed...."he will get away" is meaningless to me and most conservatives...

if you told me that Jeffrey Skilling from Enron would get away, i would be outraged
 

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OK, we'll just see how things play out. You've got to understand the frustrations and disenfranchisement of many though. Given the obvios connections between Bush and the Bin Ladens, Halliburton and Cheney, the backtracking of reasons for Iraq, the recent shifting of several billion $$ from reconstruction to oil pipeline maintenance and security.... I mean, it doesn't take an anti-government commie to be extremely cynical right now. People have every right to be outraged.

And this is just one issue, there are so many others.

But I will be quiet as I promised everyone I know I would after the election.

Good luck to everyone.
 

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the supreme court appointments will be the huge prize in this election.........the democrats will make it difficult...but there is at least one latino judge that will be nominated....and if they raise to much of a fuss,they will be cutting their own throats in the latino community....

smurphy....no offense but you seem to be literally quoting michael moore....you need better source material...
 

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excuse me. But didn't Sudan offer Osama to the Clinton-Gore administration in '96? Before bombing our embassies in Tanzania and Kenya, he attacked the USS cole. But the Clinton-Gore adm.
turned down Sudan's offer and in doing so let Bin Laden slip right through their fingers. Remember the extradition treaty that Saudi Arabia offered. Gentleman, start your search engines. Mansoor Ijaz.
 
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