unless its at the goalline...as soon as the ball crosses the goalline with possesion it counts and play is over.....he had possesion and crossed the line refs got it right...
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unless its at the goalline...as soon as the ball crosses the goalline with possesion it counts and play is over.....he had possesion and crossed the line refs got it right...
explain how you bobble a football, then retain possession, then lose it in less than a second and it counts as a catch?
YOU MUST RETAIN POSSESSION THROUGH THE CATCH FOR IT TO BE A COMPLETION.
Ok, so NO would have won 29-17 instead. Either way, Indy still needed a TD. Whether you or anyone thought that was the incorrect call, it didn't have any impact on the game or why Indy didn't win, it was a 2 point conversion.
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You know I haven't paid attention to any of your posts until now. I got curious. All these posts calling you out. This post alone makes you look like a big pussy.
It was a catch.
Blaming the refs?
On side kick was classless? Maybe you should have been prepared for it?
Okay thats enough from me. I'm sure there are plenty others that want to call you a pussy too.
Pure possession, pure catch, maintained possession ONTO the ground UNTIL INDY play ran into his arms and ball fell loose.....PLANE was crossed, had possession........CATCH, 2 PTS, PICK 6 SUPERBOWL
WHOOP IT!!!!
See ya next year!!!!
WHOOP IT!!!!
See ya next year!!!!
this is a moot point
this is a moot point
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unless its at the goalline...as soon as the ball crosses the goalline with possesion it counts and play is over.....he had possesion and crossed the line refs got it right...
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explain how you bobble a football, then retain possession, then lose it in less than a second and it counts as a catch?
YOU MUST RETAIN POSSESSION THROUGH THE CATCH FOR IT TO BE A COMPLETION.
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...but i'll argue cuz in this case its right. exactly--EXACTLY as the addict said here. When crossing the goal line--so long as the carrier had possesion while it crossed--it counts.
lemme put this in terms you may understand better. say...Joseph Addai was running to the pilon and reached out with two hands grasping the ball (identical to how lance moore was holding--and "having possesion" of the ball) once THE BALL -in possession of carrier, same case in either example--crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is over--as the score has been made, line to reach gained. if then say vilma were to come by and rip the ball out of Addai's hands and run 100+ yds the other way, it wouldnt count because the play was dead once the goal line was crossed. you're only argument is--"he didnt have possesion" but honestly, that was pretty clear he did
2 points for the 2 pointer!
not only did he 1, cross the plane with possesion, 2 his shin/knee was down (which is enough to be ruled down) in the endzone while the ball was across the goal line with him having CLEAR possession of. yes he does bobble the ball--but well after he possessed the ball while accross the goal line. 2 points!
not taking anything away from Manning, as he had two fantastic throws--one to garcon in the ez, 1st TD--and later in fourth when touched it over 4+ defenders to dallas clark
tell me, was the sun in manning's eyes when he threw the pick 6? D coord called for pressure which hurried QB's throw and DB knowing hadto be quick throw jumped the route--no blame on refs there...unless.... no, wait--wayne coulda caught that TD on fourth down. deflected through his hands to the ground incomplete. ALL REFs there....:shrug:
this is a moot point
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unless its at the goalline...as soon as the ball crosses the goalline with possesion it counts and play is over.....he had possesion and crossed the line refs got it right...
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explain how you bobble a football, then retain possession, then lose it in less than a second and it counts as a catch?
YOU MUST RETAIN POSSESSION THROUGH THE CATCH FOR IT TO BE A COMPLETION.
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...but i'll argue cuz in this case its right. exactly--EXACTLY as the addict said here. When crossing the goal line--so long as the carrier had possesion while it crossed--it counts.
lemme put this in terms you may understand better. say...Joseph Addai was running to the pilon and reached out with two hands grasping the ball (identical to how lance moore was holding--and "having possesion" of the ball) once THE BALL -in possession of carrier, same case in either example--crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is over--as the score has been made, line to reach gained. if then say vilma were to come by and rip the ball out of Addai's hands and run 100+ yds the other way, it wouldnt count because the play was dead once the goal line was crossed. you're only argument is--"he didnt have possesion" but honestly, that was pretty clear he did
2 points for the 2 pointer!
not only did he 1, cross the plane with possesion, 2 his shin/knee was down (which is enough to be ruled down) in the endzone while the ball was across the goal line with him having CLEAR possession of. yes he does bobble the ball--but well after he possessed the ball while accross the goal line. 2 points!
not taking anything away from Manning, as he had two fantastic throws--one to garcon in the ez, 1st TD--and later in fourth when touched it over 4+ defenders to dallas clark
tell me, was the sun in manning's eyes when he threw the pick 6? D coord called for pressure which hurried QB's throw and DB knowing hadto be quick throw jumped the route--no blame on refs there...unless.... no, wait--wayne coulda caught that TD on fourth down. deflected through his hands to the ground incomplete. ALL REFs there....:shrug:
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unless its at the goalline...as soon as the ball crosses the goalline with possesion it counts and play is over.....he had possesion and crossed the line refs got it right...
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explain how you bobble a football, then retain possession, then lose it in less than a second and it counts as a catch?
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...but i'll argue cuz in this case its right. exactly--EXACTLY as the addict said here. When crossing the goal line--so long as the carrier had possesion while it crossed--it counts.
lemme put this in terms you may understand better. say...Joseph Addai was running to the pilon and reached out with two hands grasping the ball (identical to how lance moore was holding--and "having possesion" of the ball) once THE BALL -in possession of carrier, same case in either example--crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is over--as the score has been made, line to reach gained. if then say vilma were to come by and rip the ball out of Addai's hands and run 100+ yds the other way, it wouldnt count because the play was dead once the goal line was crossed. you're only argument is--"he didnt have possesion" but honestly, that was pretty clear he did
2 points for the 2 pointer!
not only did he 1, cross the plane with possesion, 2 his shin/knee was down (which is enough to be ruled down) in the endzone while the ball was across the goal line with him having CLEAR possession of. yes he does bobble the ball--but well after he possessed the ball while accross the goal line. 2 points!
not taking anything away from Manning, as he had two fantastic throws--one to garcon in the ez, 1st TD--and later in fourth when touched it over 4+ defenders to dallas clark
tell me, was the sun in manning's eyes when he threw the pick 6? D coord called for pressure which hurried QB's throw and DB knowing hadto be quick throw jumped the route--no blame on refs there...unless.... no, wait--wayne coulda caught that TD on fourth down. deflected through his hands to the ground incomplete. ALL REFs there....:shrug:
That's a catch seven days a week and twice on Superbowl Sunday!!!
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unless its at the goalline...as soon as the ball crosses the goalline with possesion it counts and play is over.....he had possesion and crossed the line refs got it right...
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explain how you bobble a football, then retain possession, then lose it in less than a second and it counts as a catch?
YOU MUST RETAIN POSSESSION THROUGH THE CATCH FOR IT TO BE A COMPLETION.
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...but i'll argue cuz in this case its right. exactly--EXACTLY as the addict said here. When crossing the goal line--so long as the carrier had possesion while it crossed--it counts.
lemme put this in terms you may understand better. say...Joseph Addai was running to the pilon and reached out with two hands grasping the ball (identical to how lance moore was holding--and "having possesion" of the ball) once THE BALL -in possession of carrier, same case in either example--crosses the plane of the goal line, the play is over--as the score has been made, line to reach gained. if then say vilma were to come by and rip the ball out of Addai's hands and run 100+ yds the other way, it wouldnt count because the play was dead once the goal line was crossed. you're only argument is--"he didnt have possesion" but honestly, that was pretty clear he did
2 points for the 2 pointer!
not only did he 1, cross the plane with possesion, 2 his shin/knee was down (which is enough to be ruled down) in the endzone while the ball was across the goal line with him having CLEAR possession of. yes he does bobble the ball--but well after he possessed the ball while accross the goal line. 2 points!
not taking anything away from Manning, as he had two fantastic throws--one to garcon in the ez, 1st TD--and later in fourth when touched it over 4+ defenders to dallas clark
tell me, was the sun in manning's eyes when he threw the pick 6? D coord called for pressure which hurried QB's throw and DB knowing hadto be quick throw jumped the route--no blame on refs there...unless.... no, wait--wayne coulda caught that TD on fourth down. deflected through his hands to the ground incomplete. ALL REFs there....:shrug:
first of all im sorry ur pats lost to a bunch of losers in the ravens this year. your team showed a lot of heart in that game.
second rushing the ball and catching are totally different. if you are going to the ground with a catch you MUST retain possession throughout the entire catch. this did not happen on that 2 pt conversion. i mean i guess its possible if you think you can bobble, get possesssion, then drop the ball within 1 second then its possible. I've never seen a ref call a catch when the player didnt come up with the ball at the end of the play.
with that said the saints played very well as did the colts. The refs were on the saints side and missed a few crucial calls which could have really helped the colts. Congrats Saints on ur win and good luck next year.
why do you presume i'm a pats fan? because i simply reside from massachusetts? i've a been lifelong lions fan simply because barry sanders was my favorite player--but then...get this, i grew up.
i've never even posted a pro-patriots or even anti-colts post. i dare you to find one. i actually am skewed to dislike the pats somewhat because they usually get a free pass with press around here kissing their ass, much like someone i know -and his favorite player/team
. its fine to be a fan--i was giving you that. you're just too outta of touch for me care. i even offered a semi olive branch in saying GL the rest of the way--but hope that maybe someday you escape this haze of everything must come up colts or else. you're well beyond a fan--and maybe it'll never sink in. truly, GL the rest of the way. i'll do my best to simply not venture into your posts in the furture for both of our sakes.
pats fan...that is funny. your attack actually proved how much of a... ok, i actually told myself not to go there.
This is a great thread.. Don't have to have possession all the way through at the GOAL LINE! Been that way for years.. Don't remember the pass interference calls that were missed. I know one thing, it is sure nice to see Peyton lose..
i find it hard that everyone here is wrong with CC being the only one "enlightened" enough to see what actually should've been the case. if the refs were actually in on "giving the game to saints" why didnt they simply call it a catch and score in the first place?
then indy coulda challeneged--and lost, depriving them of a timeout and challenge. wouldnt that'a been more blow to indy? -if the refs were pucshing it that way.
the correct call was made.
i saw one pass down the sideline to wayne where either randal gay or another DB lost track of the ball and turned around late--thoughwas yards away from receiver that it wasnt even close to enough contact to have been PI, as even wayne was grabbing the DB at the end of it.... so the phantom for or against calls...i dont see.
Where? What calls? LOL This was a very well reffed game and I was totally unbiased. Please oh please, Mr Enlightened One, tell me where these calls are?!
I agree with carter, the saints shouldn't even have been allowed to attempt that on-side kick. that was bullshit...
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