Where is kosar?
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Nick,
For Christs sake. I've posted extensively (read: longwinded) in 3 or 4 political threads in the last week or so. Maybe you missed them. I took the last few 'off'. Most pro-occupation and/or conservative leaning people, except for a few like Dogs, AR, Gardenweasel, Dawgball, Blitz, Turfgrass and maybe a few more would rather just call people names and spew sterotypes rather than have any substantive conversation or addressing any questions/points. Most have a hard time expressing any coherent opinion or position. As you know, it's basically just jingoistic drivel laced with cursing.
So it gets a little boring after being in several threads in a short period of time.
One good thing is that rumor on the street has it that Ctownguy, Intense Operator and this new Short 'N' Sassy guy are starting to rethink their position on tons of political issues as a result of my posts.
For Christs sake. I've posted extensively (read: longwinded) in 3 or 4 political threads in the last week or so. Maybe you missed them. I took the last few 'off'. Most pro-occupation and/or conservative leaning people, except for a few like Dogs, AR, Gardenweasel, Dawgball, Blitz, Turfgrass and maybe a few more would rather just call people names and spew sterotypes rather than have any substantive conversation or addressing any questions/points. Most have a hard time expressing any coherent opinion or position. As you know, it's basically just jingoistic drivel laced with cursing.
So it gets a little boring after being in several threads in a short period of time.
One good thing is that rumor on the street has it that Ctownguy, Intense Operator and this new Short 'N' Sassy guy are starting to rethink their position on tons of political issues as a result of my posts.
Kosar, that is funny, and would like to say you are one of the few liberals here that can converse on an intelligent level.
I do admit alot of my posts result in trying to antagonize and such, but I NEVER START THE NAME CALLING, IT IS ALWAYS STARTED BY eddie the clown or some other boob making stupid, well in your own words "few more would rather just call people names and spew sterotypes rather than have any substantive conversation or addressing any questions/points."
It seems these liberals have no problem doing what you accuse myself and a few others of doing, esp eddie. So if it does seem that it useless debating with us, just take a look at some on your side, they abound there also.
I do admit alot of my posts result in trying to antagonize and such, but I NEVER START THE NAME CALLING, IT IS ALWAYS STARTED BY eddie the clown or some other boob making stupid, well in your own words "few more would rather just call people names and spew sterotypes rather than have any substantive conversation or addressing any questions/points."
It seems these liberals have no problem doing what you accuse myself and a few others of doing, esp eddie. So if it does seem that it useless debating with us, just take a look at some on your side, they abound there also.
Ctownguy,
I don't find it 'useless' having discussions with people here about politics. That should be obvious as I post in probably half of them or so. However, I was answering Nick and trying to explain why I don't feel compelled to get involved with every one, particularly the last several.
A thread that is 80% flames and name-calling is just not interesting to me and that's what the recent ones have been. No big deal, I just don't post in them.
As far as the name-calling goes, in general, all it takes is one shot from someone on either side in one thread and forevermore in every thread it will turn into a bashfest between those people. I have no idea who 'started it' between any two people. It could be from two years ago for all I know.
I know that Eddie can be frustrating at times and I went off on him 3 or 4 months ago when he was mocking the law school that somebody was attending. I probably went too far in that post, but I understand what you are saying in general. That said, I think he and I both feel that is water under the bridge and we've been cordial with each other since then and I look forward to drinking and golfing with him this summer in Atlantic City.
I doubt i'm nearly as 'liberal' as Eddie, but of course I am going to agree with his political posts much more easily than you. You take things really personally and react as such. Honestly, from thread to thread, it seems that you go off on somebody without your named having even been mentioned. Now, like I said, I have no idea who originally started it back in the day, but from thread to thread, it's you, my man. That's not a slam on you, but just do a search.
You shouldn't always paint everything as 'you liberals' and 'us conservatives'. You have repeatedly mocked the concept that somebody can actually judge each situation on it's merits, but you're wrong. My posts about this admin have been very narrow in scope and have almost exclusively revolved around getting involved in Iraq. If Kerry wins and continues on to Iran in 2005, then I will be just as vocally against it and i'll assume that you'll be very supportive and Wilson will still be jumping up and down in front of his TV, cheering. This has nothing to do with being 'liberal' and has everything to do with being of the opinion that this is bad for America in so many ways.
If you were to come up with 10 major issues that Republicans and Democrats typically disagree on, i'd probably fall on each side 5 times. That doesn't include starting random wars where the planning started 2 months after 9/11 and the expressed desire started 2 days after the inauguration.
I don't find it 'useless' having discussions with people here about politics. That should be obvious as I post in probably half of them or so. However, I was answering Nick and trying to explain why I don't feel compelled to get involved with every one, particularly the last several.
A thread that is 80% flames and name-calling is just not interesting to me and that's what the recent ones have been. No big deal, I just don't post in them.
As far as the name-calling goes, in general, all it takes is one shot from someone on either side in one thread and forevermore in every thread it will turn into a bashfest between those people. I have no idea who 'started it' between any two people. It could be from two years ago for all I know.
I know that Eddie can be frustrating at times and I went off on him 3 or 4 months ago when he was mocking the law school that somebody was attending. I probably went too far in that post, but I understand what you are saying in general. That said, I think he and I both feel that is water under the bridge and we've been cordial with each other since then and I look forward to drinking and golfing with him this summer in Atlantic City.
I doubt i'm nearly as 'liberal' as Eddie, but of course I am going to agree with his political posts much more easily than you. You take things really personally and react as such. Honestly, from thread to thread, it seems that you go off on somebody without your named having even been mentioned. Now, like I said, I have no idea who originally started it back in the day, but from thread to thread, it's you, my man. That's not a slam on you, but just do a search.
You shouldn't always paint everything as 'you liberals' and 'us conservatives'. You have repeatedly mocked the concept that somebody can actually judge each situation on it's merits, but you're wrong. My posts about this admin have been very narrow in scope and have almost exclusively revolved around getting involved in Iraq. If Kerry wins and continues on to Iran in 2005, then I will be just as vocally against it and i'll assume that you'll be very supportive and Wilson will still be jumping up and down in front of his TV, cheering. This has nothing to do with being 'liberal' and has everything to do with being of the opinion that this is bad for America in so many ways.
If you were to come up with 10 major issues that Republicans and Democrats typically disagree on, i'd probably fall on each side 5 times. That doesn't include starting random wars where the planning started 2 months after 9/11 and the expressed desire started 2 days after the inauguration.
Great post Kosar. And what you say is true, Iraq is not a liberal vs. conservative issue. I was against Vietnam when Johnson was President and I was against it when Nixon was President. I think it is convienent for some people to say that liberals are against going into Iraq because they hate Bush. In reality I hate Bush because he went into Iraq. Ido not blame Bush for 9-11. I am more concerned about how we get out of this mess he got us into in Iraq. The importance of forums, even small ones like this, is that we can share ideas without the media telling us how we are suppose to think.
It's a must to always think on your own. To just take the same side all the time is nonsense. In politics or everyday life no one has the right answers all the time. I to was not against Bush going into Afgan. I was not even p'd at him for anything. Then he went running into Iraq and started acting cocky. That turned me off fast.
As for nameing calling. You will not find a post here where I called anyone anything. However have I called some idiots or stupid. You bet after I was called a hell of alot worse. Im ready to get called about anything twice. Then I feal the right to react.
As for nameing calling. You will not find a post here where I called anyone anything. However have I called some idiots or stupid. You bet after I was called a hell of alot worse. Im ready to get called about anything twice. Then I feal the right to react.
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My bad, kosar. I have been busy with other things in life (you mean there's other things in life besides gambling?) and only been browsing a couple of threads. Musta just roamed into some of the dingbat-intensive threads this time around.
Kosar,
agree with most of what you say, but it is alot easier to agree with someone like eddie the clown or bobbie or stevei djv and some others when you believe most of what they believe in. All of them portray themselves as individual thinkers or having been for bush at one time etc, but I have yet to find one post for any of them that does anything but trumpet left and their cockeyed views when debating or arguing or name calling.
It's easy to just write I'm this or that but when every post is on the same side AND THEY continuially name call or demaean other posters, they are no different than me, I just happen to answer them.
Juat reading a couple of the posts answering yours here is laughable, but like you say it is useless to argue this stuff each other.
But I still say when someone calls me stupid or a bigot or nazis JUST BECASUE I'M ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAN IT ABOUT AS IMMATURE AS ONE CAN GET AND I CERTAINLY NEVER DID THAT LIKE YOUR BUDDIE eddie.
But that be as it may, at least I stand up for what I believe and don't try to be on everyside there is to look good. In this country there are only 2 political parties that mean anything, that is why you are either one or the other.
You can talk all you want about looking at all sides and thinking about what is best and all that crap, becasue that is what it is, as there is only 2 choices to run the counrty, democrats or republicans and you can think all you want, but your either on one side or the other with the baggage that comes with each side AND ALL I CONTEND IS THE LIBERAL SIDE HAS MORE BAGGAGE THAt WILL HURT THIS COUNTRY IN THE LONG RUN. JUST LOOK WHO SUPPORTS THEM:
eddie
stevied
bobbie
bjfinste
djv
cherrybltster
ozball
nickdouglas
and on and on and on
That's a hellva lineup of name calling elitists and the funny thing is they are wrong on just about everything. It is pathetic, but in this country they all have every right to be on the wrong side.
Good luck to you all, you're going to need it.
agree with most of what you say, but it is alot easier to agree with someone like eddie the clown or bobbie or stevei djv and some others when you believe most of what they believe in. All of them portray themselves as individual thinkers or having been for bush at one time etc, but I have yet to find one post for any of them that does anything but trumpet left and their cockeyed views when debating or arguing or name calling.
It's easy to just write I'm this or that but when every post is on the same side AND THEY continuially name call or demaean other posters, they are no different than me, I just happen to answer them.
Juat reading a couple of the posts answering yours here is laughable, but like you say it is useless to argue this stuff each other.
But I still say when someone calls me stupid or a bigot or nazis JUST BECASUE I'M ON THE RIGHT SIDE, THAN IT ABOUT AS IMMATURE AS ONE CAN GET AND I CERTAINLY NEVER DID THAT LIKE YOUR BUDDIE eddie.
But that be as it may, at least I stand up for what I believe and don't try to be on everyside there is to look good. In this country there are only 2 political parties that mean anything, that is why you are either one or the other.
You can talk all you want about looking at all sides and thinking about what is best and all that crap, becasue that is what it is, as there is only 2 choices to run the counrty, democrats or republicans and you can think all you want, but your either on one side or the other with the baggage that comes with each side AND ALL I CONTEND IS THE LIBERAL SIDE HAS MORE BAGGAGE THAt WILL HURT THIS COUNTRY IN THE LONG RUN. JUST LOOK WHO SUPPORTS THEM:
eddie
stevied
bobbie
bjfinste
djv
cherrybltster
ozball
nickdouglas
and on and on and on
That's a hellva lineup of name calling elitists and the funny thing is they are wrong on just about everything. It is pathetic, but in this country they all have every right to be on the wrong side.
Good luck to you all, you're going to need it.
CTG REad what you say. Once again you dont call folks names. Thats BS. You ran it up on me many times before I at least went so far to ask if you were 17 or what. Thats sure was a huge insult. Minor to yours.. And once again you tell, I count 8 names that there wrong about just everything. Dam it must be something to be perfect like you.
Oh yes was it not just yesterday you tolds us all how you liked that liberila Mr Blair. Common thats walking both sides of the street even if you dont think you can do it.
Oh yes was it not just yesterday you tolds us all how you liked that liberila Mr Blair. Common thats walking both sides of the street even if you dont think you can do it.
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I'm a happy, fun loving guy. I just finally had a few minutes to browse the forum and noticed a bunch of threads about politics without my main man kosar popping up in any of them.
He made a very good point. Once certain parties start posting a lot of these threads tend to drift away from having any meaning. Some people are so ignorant and/or stuck on their views that it is pretty worthless to argue with them.
He made a very good point. Once certain parties start posting a lot of these threads tend to drift away from having any meaning. Some people are so ignorant and/or stuck on their views that it is pretty worthless to argue with them.
In the past few months I am starting to get MORE AND MORE disgusted with BOTH parties. Hell, I doubt I am even going to vote this next election. That will be the last thing I have to say about politics for a long time.
I myself will no longer post my feelings/thoughts about politics in this forum. Neither will I criticize anyone else who does, frankly I just think its getting a little ridiculous, without naming names a lot of the people around here use the general forum as their political debate page.
Nuff said,
kneifl
I myself will no longer post my feelings/thoughts about politics in this forum. Neither will I criticize anyone else who does, frankly I just think its getting a little ridiculous, without naming names a lot of the people around here use the general forum as their political debate page.
Nuff said,
kneifl
i agree with you kosar, i'm going to start posting less in the political threads myself because of the bashing (definitely on both sides) & becoming too predictable.
i basically know where every poster that partakes in the political threads stand before it is even posted. there are no surprises.
eventhough there is more bashing than before, i still find most of the posters here to be more civil than on any of the other forums.
i basically know where every poster that partakes in the political threads stand before it is even posted. there are no surprises.
eventhough there is more bashing than before, i still find most of the posters here to be more civil than on any of the other forums.
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I dont post in other forums, but I can say this.
A long time ago I realized that debate about politics/religon is moot in person. On a message board, well.....
A long time ago I realized that debate about politics/religon is moot in person. On a message board, well.....
ctownguy:
"In this country there are only 2 political parties that mean anything, that is why you are either one or the other."
as much as you love to lump me in with the so-called left-wingers....i must disagree....since i have NEVER voted in my entire life....politics, as a whole, disgusts me....regardless of who is in charge....the two-party system, in this day and age, seems nothing more than a lesser of two evils....the "for the good of the people" is nothing more than simple rhetoric that has been non-existent long before i was born....if, in fact, it was ever in place to begin with....so....once again....i am definitely affiliated with no party....but....that doesn't preclude me from commenting on atrocities, either....only because it affects everyone on this planet.....so....i am what you should label (if anything) a true independent/anarchist!!!
"In this country there are only 2 political parties that mean anything, that is why you are either one or the other."
as much as you love to lump me in with the so-called left-wingers....i must disagree....since i have NEVER voted in my entire life....politics, as a whole, disgusts me....regardless of who is in charge....the two-party system, in this day and age, seems nothing more than a lesser of two evils....the "for the good of the people" is nothing more than simple rhetoric that has been non-existent long before i was born....if, in fact, it was ever in place to begin with....so....once again....i am definitely affiliated with no party....but....that doesn't preclude me from commenting on atrocities, either....only because it affects everyone on this planet.....so....i am what you should label (if anything) a true independent/anarchist!!!
cherry, cherry, cherry, you are useless as a tit on a boar. My whole point is that all the rhetoric about how you feel means nothing esp from you, a canadian.
"the two-party system, in this day and age, seems nothing more than a lesser of two evils" I agree completely, you just made my point on voting and picking leaders here in the states. ALL THE SO CALLED FREE THINKERS OR SEE WHAT EACH GUY STANDS FOR IS A CROCK.
Except for a few differences that usually won't sway anyone, people end up voting for one side or the other, it's all they can do.
So as I was saying all the crap being heaped on me for lumping everyone together or for being a follower is a ton of crap as the liberals do the same thing even if they try and make everyone believe different.
has far as you go cherry, you can rant on all you want and like djv it doesn't mean a thing, esp with you as you can't even make a difference with your vote.
That's all I have been trying to point out about the liberal thing with me and how I feel about them, because IMHO they are dead wrong on way too many things to be "good for the country" given only 2 choices.
"the two-party system, in this day and age, seems nothing more than a lesser of two evils" I agree completely, you just made my point on voting and picking leaders here in the states. ALL THE SO CALLED FREE THINKERS OR SEE WHAT EACH GUY STANDS FOR IS A CROCK.
Except for a few differences that usually won't sway anyone, people end up voting for one side or the other, it's all they can do.
So as I was saying all the crap being heaped on me for lumping everyone together or for being a follower is a ton of crap as the liberals do the same thing even if they try and make everyone believe different.
has far as you go cherry, you can rant on all you want and like djv it doesn't mean a thing, esp with you as you can't even make a difference with your vote.
That's all I have been trying to point out about the liberal thing with me and how I feel about them, because IMHO they are dead wrong on way too many things to be "good for the country" given only 2 choices.
