It's funny how much walmart gets mentioned. There making just chit loads of money. And want topay like Mc Donalds does. It's so funny how just 30 years ago one bread winner could go to work and taka care of his family nicely. Not so today. In many many cases Both work and most times the kids are working by 13 and 14 lieing there age to get the job. We need to be honest not everyone will be a doctor or a lawyer. Not even being a teacher in many states is a worthy job anymore. Heck I here in Texas if your a football coach. They make double what a math or english teacher makes. Good jobs are going out the country at record pase It has to come to a head sooner or later. Or we all will be paying for the lower end of the scale with more feebies as DTB calls them. Because if you dont have jobs to give them. And not everyone has a idea for some small business. Talking about small business. There is a good reason why 80% of them fail. It has nothing to do with salaries. It's call poor planing. Not getting the right amount of capitol to start with. And playing big shot before you can. So lets not blame it on some poor sucker trying toget 6.50 a hour.
Where the HELL is "AMERICA" headed?
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Good luck! Ours is OXLEY out of Findlay...he's been big money's "boy" for at least a decade and a half, maybe more. He's on the Senate banking comm now, no doubt a stooge of Pete Peterson and his federal reserve boys. Many of you may have heard of him from the Sarbanes Oxley bill. It's almost a hopeless case, anytime any of those yoyo's reach a position of prominance...you can bet they've been bought and paid for by big money. :nono:
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Good luck! Ours is OXLEY out of Findlay...he's been big money's "boy" for at least a decade and a half, maybe more. He's on the Senate banking comm now, no doubt a stooge of Pete Peterson and his federal reserve boys. Many of you may have heard of him from the Sarbanes Oxley bill. It's almost a hopeless case, anytime any of those yoyo's reach a position of prominance...you can bet they've been bought and paid for by big money. :nono:
TT
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I think you hit the nail on the head, Turf.
People that complain about other people making money just don't understand what it takes or don't care to put the effort in. If they did, they would do more of it. You don't have to start your own business to advance yourself. BUT if you decide to pout and always blame it on someone else that you didn't advance, then join the Democratic Party.
Republicans aren't against giving to those who need help. They are against giving to those who refuse to help themself and then complain when they don't have anything.
People that complain about other people making money just don't understand what it takes or don't care to put the effort in. If they did, they would do more of it. You don't have to start your own business to advance yourself. BUT if you decide to pout and always blame it on someone else that you didn't advance, then join the Democratic Party.
Republicans aren't against giving to those who need help. They are against giving to those who refuse to help themself and then complain when they don't have anything.
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This is the statement that I have a problem with. What is the difference between someone working a cash register at McDonald's or Wal-Mart. It's the same job tier. Why should Wal-Mart be bashed for paying competitive wages with other businesses? If the cashier wants to make more money, then they have options to advance by working hard and giving the effort. America is still the land of opportunity, and you don't have to be anyone special to seize some of that opportunity.
DJV You are correct that 80% of small business's fail and partially correct on failing to plan--but by far the biggest reason is the segmant of population (quota's again) that receive these loans.
To put it in perspective--for some to get small business loan they have to present projected plans and have some working capital--and "others" do not. America has a Mathew Lesco* mentality.
*The Tampa Tribune: "The Mathew Lesco 1136 page telephone book-size guide lists 15,000 sources for $350 billion in government cash."
Read this today.
"Although December's unemployment rate was the lowest in 14 months, it reached that level because fewer people were looking for work, the department said. More than 300,000 people gave up their search for jobs and dropped out of the pool of available workers, the department said"
I would like to ask this question--there is no doubt that there are abundant amount of lower tiered paying jobs available---
What makes is so enticing to these 300,000 to sit on their ass and not work at all vs working at minimum wage job????
---and on this statement
"It's so funny how just 30 years ago one bread winner could go to work and taka care of his family nicely"
I can tell one one HUGE reason is credit cards and living beyonds one means. Who had a credit card 30 years ago or could earn back then $12,000 a year but run credit up to $30,000 a year with no colateral. 30 years years ago there was no such thing as 2nd and 3rd mortages on houses. You dreamed to own home free and clear not to build equity to take out loans.
Back then when you purchased something that is price you paid.
Today people evidently are clueless what they actually pay for that $1,000 item they put on credit card by the time they pay it off if they ever do.
30 years ago how many cars wre driven to school--and the few that were how many were new? RIGHT!
Drive by a school now and look at the BMW's ect.
I can't speak for others but my father had small farm and worked at shoe factory when I was child. In addition it took him year to build his own house after work. We kids had to pick up soda bottles at 2cents cash in to help pay for school bus which cost $2.50 a month if you did not go to public school. Father later hit the big time and got job @ Chrysler where he drove 160 miles round trip for 20 more years to pay off 360 acre family farm from his sisters.
People made things do back then because if they coundn't afford it they saved till they could. If job paying $1 an hour was all that was available thats what they did till they found something better. They made no excuses,took what was available knowing full well it "was their fault" if they did not make ends meet.
To put it in perspective--for some to get small business loan they have to present projected plans and have some working capital--and "others" do not. America has a Mathew Lesco* mentality.
*The Tampa Tribune: "The Mathew Lesco 1136 page telephone book-size guide lists 15,000 sources for $350 billion in government cash."
Read this today.
"Although December's unemployment rate was the lowest in 14 months, it reached that level because fewer people were looking for work, the department said. More than 300,000 people gave up their search for jobs and dropped out of the pool of available workers, the department said"
I would like to ask this question--there is no doubt that there are abundant amount of lower tiered paying jobs available---
What makes is so enticing to these 300,000 to sit on their ass and not work at all vs working at minimum wage job????
---and on this statement
"It's so funny how just 30 years ago one bread winner could go to work and taka care of his family nicely"
I can tell one one HUGE reason is credit cards and living beyonds one means. Who had a credit card 30 years ago or could earn back then $12,000 a year but run credit up to $30,000 a year with no colateral. 30 years years ago there was no such thing as 2nd and 3rd mortages on houses. You dreamed to own home free and clear not to build equity to take out loans.
Back then when you purchased something that is price you paid.
Today people evidently are clueless what they actually pay for that $1,000 item they put on credit card by the time they pay it off if they ever do.
30 years ago how many cars wre driven to school--and the few that were how many were new? RIGHT!
Drive by a school now and look at the BMW's ect.
I can't speak for others but my father had small farm and worked at shoe factory when I was child. In addition it took him year to build his own house after work. We kids had to pick up soda bottles at 2cents cash in to help pay for school bus which cost $2.50 a month if you did not go to public school. Father later hit the big time and got job @ Chrysler where he drove 160 miles round trip for 20 more years to pay off 360 acre family farm from his sisters.
People made things do back then because if they coundn't afford it they saved till they could. If job paying $1 an hour was all that was available thats what they did till they found something better. They made no excuses,took what was available knowing full well it "was their fault" if they did not make ends meet.
DTB my parents were the same. theyhad to have mosy of themoney if not all in hand when the purchased something. Myfathersaved 6 years to have just one new car in his life. For my parents it was the depression that taught the lessons of hard knocks. the only ones in this country that come close to that are the street people. And they want to be there. What im worried about is. If we dont start producing jobs at a higher rate. we will have more street people who dont want to be there.
Turf man of wisdom. Yes I know about small business. I ran one while workling full time for another company. There are reason why I retired at 60. It was called hard work for 40 years. I am helping some friends right now start another small business. I can tell you 100% that salaries are not what doom a new small business or even one 3/4 years old. Poor planing from the start with a business plan that at best is iffy. And one very big thing. The im a big shot before you realy are one. The role is a want to be they cant help them selfs. What do they do. Well instead of working hard at the new business they start to add on folks to soon. Just so that person or persons can do there work they have now decide they dont care to do. After all there the owner the boss. Then when it starts to go to hell. They blame that dam salarie the government makes them pay. But what really happen they just forgot to work them selfs and had to many lunches to go to.
DTB credit is many folks down fall. And why is that. Hey they see there friends business and even the govenment just spend like nuts. So there exambles are poor ones. And then we have the credit card deals that anyone can have. Banks give money away now days. It's the chance they take. Why? Because for everone that tanks. Theres one they can charge alittle extra interest and make up for it.
Right now the poorest thing for our kids to see and understand is the spending coming form Wash DC. Its completly out of control.
Turf man of wisdom. Yes I know about small business. I ran one while workling full time for another company. There are reason why I retired at 60. It was called hard work for 40 years. I am helping some friends right now start another small business. I can tell you 100% that salaries are not what doom a new small business or even one 3/4 years old. Poor planing from the start with a business plan that at best is iffy. And one very big thing. The im a big shot before you realy are one. The role is a want to be they cant help them selfs. What do they do. Well instead of working hard at the new business they start to add on folks to soon. Just so that person or persons can do there work they have now decide they dont care to do. After all there the owner the boss. Then when it starts to go to hell. They blame that dam salarie the government makes them pay. But what really happen they just forgot to work them selfs and had to many lunches to go to.
DTB credit is many folks down fall. And why is that. Hey they see there friends business and even the govenment just spend like nuts. So there exambles are poor ones. And then we have the credit card deals that anyone can have. Banks give money away now days. It's the chance they take. Why? Because for everone that tanks. Theres one they can charge alittle extra interest and make up for it.
Right now the poorest thing for our kids to see and understand is the spending coming form Wash DC. Its completly out of control.
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Cie, I agree with you on the fact that qualified individuals will always have a job in the US. I still don't think it is good for American companies to keep taking away jobs here in the US and creating jobs in a foreign market. What's going to happen when the average American doesn't have any money to spend on luxuries? I'm not sure but I think the economy is going to suffer. More competition for every decent paying job is just going to make it harder for the next generation to succeed.
I find it amusing but sad and pathetic to talk about how people can just work hard and they can realize the American Dream while at the same time taking away the jobs that you want them to find and putting them overseas.
It would be nice if the right-wingers would open their eyes to the real world and what is happening instead of living in their past 70s fantasy world yapping about big-spending liberals and welfare. THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE!
It would be nice if the right-wingers would open their eyes to the real world and what is happening instead of living in their past 70s fantasy world yapping about big-spending liberals and welfare. THAT DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE!
Spending liberals? This President has spent more money then even Johnson did. Johnson was call the spender. Bush blew by him even in 1965 dollars. He has somemore ideas to spend more we dont have on the Moon and Mars. I Cant believe we had a surplus close to 200 billion January 2000 and by January 2002 a deficit of 225 billion and growing. Now estimated at 300 billion. We dont take in enough topay the bills it's just that simple. We gave out 2 was it or 3 tax cuts that we could not pay for. They said they would pay for them by cutting cost. Never happened. I'll even give them the 125 billion they spent in Iraq and some in Afghanistan. But where the hell they blow the other 300 billion.
So we all will get to pay up. If not you get to have your interest rates go back to 8 & 9%. And every type of fee raised you can think of just to say we did not rasie your taxes. It's chip game. Hide and seek. Jobs should be the number one concern. Dept of labor just release there numbers and it was very sad.
So we all will get to pay up. If not you get to have your interest rates go back to 8 & 9%. And every type of fee raised you can think of just to say we did not rasie your taxes. It's chip game. Hide and seek. Jobs should be the number one concern. Dept of labor just release there numbers and it was very sad.
