Whitewater Vs Rezko

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This is an op-ed off HuffingtonPost. Pretty interesting.............sorry so long, but seems relevant.

Karen Russell
Thu Jan 24, 11:29 AM ET



It's baaack! Just when you thought it was safe, we are back at Whitewater. If Hillary and her attack pack want to play the Rezko card, let's all strap on some waders, because now we're forced to wade through the Whitewater mud again.

Clinton claimed Obama represented Tony Rezko. Obama never represented Rezko. Never. Ever.

According to the Washington Post:
"William Miceli, Obama's supervisor at the law firm, said the firm represented the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., a nonprofit group that redeveloped a run-down property on Chicago's South Side with Rezko. He called Clinton's assertion that Obama represented Rezko in a slum landlord business 'categorically untrue. He was a very junior lawyer at the time, who was given responsibility for basic due diligence, document review,' said Miceli, adding that Obama did what he was told by the firm. According to Miceli, that was the only time Obama worked on a Rezko-related project while at the law firm...But investigations by Chicago newspapers have not produced evidence that he represented Rezko in a slum landlord business. What has been demonstrated so far is that he did some due diligence legal work for a joint venture between Rezko and a Chicago nonprofit. Two Pinocchios for Clinton."


FactCheck.org says "Obama was associated with a law firm that represented the community groups working with Rezko on several deals. There's no evidence that Obama spent much time on them, and he never represented Rezko directly. So it was wrong for Clinton to say he was 'representing ... Rezko.' That's untrue."


Obama did work for non-profit community groups associated with Rezko's firm. The Chicago Tribune says: "Obama angrily rejected Clinton's accusation at Monday's Democratic debate. And a Tribune review of land and court documents and law firm files as well as correspondence and other records related to Obama's eight years as an Illinois state lawmaker supports his contention that he did not directly represent Rezko's development firm. Instead, the records show, he represented non-profit community groups that partnered with Rezko's firm." (Registration Required)


In fact, Obama had "unusually frank ethics disclosure reports" and Obama represented the non-profit partner:
"At the Tribune's request, Cook County Circuit Court Chief Judge Timothy Evans produced a list of all 260 civil and criminal cases in which the firm filed appearances, and the Tribune separately examined 1990s lawsuits that Rezmar Corp. listed in applications for government grants. The paper also examined files from the Illinois Housing Development Authority and the city housing department, as well as the hundreds of clients Obama listed in the unusually frank ethics disclosure reports he filed as a state senator from December 1995 through April 2004. Those and other records disclosed five instances in which Obama did legal work for ventures that included Rezmar Corp. The case of City of Chicago vs. Central Woodlawn Limited Partnership is one example. In 1992, that community group partnered with Rezmar Corp. to rehab the former slum apartment building at 6107-6115 S. Ellis Ave. As work was ongoing, city officials sued the developers, alleging 16 serious code violations at the property, including a dangerously dilapidated porch. Obama and a co-counsel filed appearances in February 1994, but the court records show they appeared on behalf of Central Woodlawn, Rezko's non-profit partner, not Rezko or his company."

Guess what? According to billing records, Obama worked for the non-profit for 5 - 7 hours mainly filling out incorporation papers for the group. Oh, the humanity! That's a little less than one day of "billable" work for many law firms for associates. Less than one day!

Speaking of billing records! Billing records bring us back to Whitewater and the Rose Law Firm. While Obama spent less than one day working for a non-profit, let's take a look at Hillary "The Inevitable" Esq.'s legal career. What's good for the gander is good for the goose.

Let's just look at her law firm "experience".

"The ultimate establishment law firm" the Rose law firm is oldest law firm west of the Mississippi River and the third-oldest in the United States.

The Rose firm hired Hillary after Bill Clinton became the attorney general of Arkansas, then she made partner after he became governor. What a coinkydink, huh? Along with the coinkydink that the State of Arkansas was one the Rose Law firm's biggest clients.

Putting aside her infamous "Let Them Eat Rat" case:

It didn't hurt that Hillary was the wife of a sitting state attorney general. Hillary insisted that "steps have been taken" to ensure that no conflict of interest would take place, but the fact remained that Rose represented the most powerful interests in the region - from real estate and retail to banking and manufacturing. Rose counted legislators, congressmen, state supreme court justices -- not to mention a former member of the United States Senate - among its partners. Yet partner Herb Rule had to concede that, as the influential wife of a future governor and President, Hillary stood out as "a prize catch."

Plus she was a real rainmaker!

Hillary, for one, thought the arrangement was just fine. In 1977, President Carter rewarded Hillary for her help in Indiana [where she had worked on his campaign] with an appointment to the Legal Services Corporation (LSC), a federally funded nonprofit organization established by Congress. When she was asked during her Senate confirmation hearings whether the Rose Law Firm would recuse itself from cases involving organizations that received money from the LSC, Hillary waffled. In the end, she would not say yes. While she continued to rack up hefty fees at her Arkansas law firm, Hillary oversaw an LSC budget that swelled from $90 million to $321 million--money that was used, among other things, to try to defeat California's tax-cutting Proposition 9, get Medicare to pay for a welfare recipient's sex-change operation, and support legal efforts in Michigan to give standing to "Black English" (Ebonics) as a separate language. In the final days of the Carter administration, the LSC would frantically dole out $260 million in taxpayer funds to various liberal causes in an effort to keep the money out of the hands of incoming Reagan appointees. The General Accounting Office would issue a report on the LSC under Hillary Rodham and conclude that "many of the people associated with it are uniquely reprehensible."

I guess it takes a President to sign an Ebonics bill into law!

But back to the Hillary's billing records. According to the "vast-right wing conspiracy" group PBS, here's what her billing records reveal:

Ms. Clinton and her attorney have stated publicly that the billing records confirm that, as an attorney at the Rose Firm in the mid-80's, she was not significantly involved in the representation of Jim McDougal's savings and loan, Madison Guaranty. According to the Rose records, Hillary Clinton billed Madison for 60 hours of work over a 15 month period. Ms. Clinton's attorney argues that this represents a de minimus amount of work and includes billings for work performed by Rose Finn lawyers working for Hillary Clinton at the time.

Got that? Hillary's own lawyer says 60 hours over 15 months is a de minimus amount of work. De minimus is lawyer speak for bupkis. Makes you wonder how he'd describe 5 - 7 hours?

But Whitewater investigators believe that the billing records show significant representation. They argue that the records prove that Ms. Clinton was not only directly involved in the representation of Madison, but more specifically, in providing legal work on the fraudulent Castle Grande land deal. In particular, investigators zeroed in on the individual billings, including a dozen calls and meetings with Seth Ward, the individual whom regulators determined was a "straw man" in the Castle Grande deal. These contacts occurred during a period of time, including early 1986, that Ward was engaged in efforts to obtain sales commissions from McDougal that would later tip regulators to illegalities at Castle Grande. Of particular interest to investigators has been Ms. Clinton's work on an option agreement drafted to provide Seth Ward with some $300,000 in commissions on the re-sale of his holdings at Castle Grande. Regulators determined that the option agreement was principally designed to further obfuscate and hide the fraudulent nature of the underlying Castle Grande transactions. The records also identified what investigators believe was a significant phone call on April 7, 1986 between Ms. Clinton and then-Madison loan officer Don Denton. When questioned by investigators about the call, Denton remembered speaking with Ms. Clinton about efforts to provide Ward with his commissions. According to their conversation, Denton believes that Ms.Clinton was familiar with the nature of the transaction -- again, a transaction that investigators believe was intended to deceive financial regulators.

And just where were those now infamous billing records?! Wait for it.

Investigators have examined the Rose billing records not only to determine the role Hillary Clinton may have played in the Castle Grande transactions, but more significantly to ascertain her role in their mysterious disappearance and subsequent reappearance. If someone had knowledge or possession of the billing records and knew that they were the subject of Federal investigative subpoenas, their failure to divulge or turn over the records could be the basis for criminal charges -- the obstruction of justice. The billing records found in Hillary Clinton's book room were a copy of an original version printed out from the Rose Firm computer in 1992, when the computer file itself was deleted. Webb Hubbell has testified that he recalls reviewing a copy of the billing records in response to press inquiries during the 1992 Presidential campaign. Hubbell says that he then passed the records on to Vince Foster who was, as far as Hubbell knows, the last person to have the records. Investigators believe the book room copy was indeed Vince Foster's. The copy contains notations, in red ink, that are Vince Foster's handwriting. These notations appear to be directed toward Hillary Clinton, including questions about some of the individual billings. Investigators believe this suggests that, at some point, this copy was passed from Vince Foster to Hillary Clinton for her review. In addition, investigators had the FBI conduct fingerprint analysis of the billing records. Of significance, the prints of Vince Foster and Hillary Clinton were found. The Senate Whitewater Committee concluded that Hillary Clinton was the person most likely to have put the billing records in her book room, or know how they got there. The Independent Counsel continues to investigate Ms. Clinton's involvement in handling the records. For her part, Hillary Clinton has said that she has no idea how the billing records came to be in her book room.

Want to learn more about the friends of the "tested and vetted" Billary? With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Remember the old adage that when pointing one finger at someone, you're pointing three back at yourself?

Remember that Whitewater ultimately cost the taxpayers $60 million to investigate. Plus the Clinton's tried and failed to stick us with their legal fees!

Do we really want to go back to the future? Personally, I'd like to go Barack to the future.
 

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lets not forget about hillary having kathleen willey`s cat killed....

i don`t care if the cat did leave a note blaming "the republicans",...

IT WAS HILLARY!
 
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the note actually blamed the "vast right-wing conspiracy," and I heard it was, like 20 cats!

just helping the conservatives with some bp fastballs to get warmed up. spring training looms.....
 

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I don't know Rezko, Clinton says after photo surfaces

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January 25, 2008

Sun-Times Staff Reports

"Today" show host Matt Lauer asked presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton on Friday if she has a connection to indicted developer Tony Rezko after flashing an undated photo of the two posing with President Bill Clinton.

"You were attacking Senator Obama, in particular, his work connected to what was a so-called a slumlord in Chicago, a guy named Tony Rezko," Lauer said. "You can't see what I'm going put up on the screen ... but it is a picture of you and your husband Bill Clinton posing with that same man."


Lauer said he they were unable to verify when the photo was taken, but it most likely happened during Bill Clinton's presidency.

Clinton said she did not remember taking the picture and said she doesn't even remember meeting Rezko.

"I've probably taken hundreds of thousands of pictures," Clinton said. "I don't know the man, I wouldn't know him if he walked in the door, I don't have a 17-year-relationship with him."

Earlier this week, Clinton questioned Obama's relationship with Rezko, who is facing a Feb. 25 federal criminal trial in Chicago on public corruption and fraud charges involving state of Illinois teacher pension funds.

Clinton said she must respond in kind to attacks from rival Obama even though she'd rather keep the race for the Democratic presidential nomination focused on their differences on public policy issues.

''I try not to attack first, but I have to defend myself -- I do have to counterpunch,'' Clinton said.

''I took a lot of incoming fire for many, many months and I was happy to absorb it because obviously, you know, I felt that was part of my responsibility. But toward the end of a campaign you have to set the record straight,'' the New York senator said.Clinton, Obama and their campaigns have exchanged increasingly hard-hitting jabs in recent days over race, his relationship with a Chicago developer, her vote on the Iraq war, and other issues. Clinton stopped airing a South Carolina radio ad critical of Obama on Thursday and Obama took down his radio response in an attempt to cool the angry public spat.

''I have tried to make it clear that this election has to be about the future,'' Clinton said. ''It is perfectly legitimate to draw comparisons and contrasts. I think both Senator Obama and I have made it clear we do want to focus on what we each would do for our country. It has been obviously an incredibly intense campaign. ... But I do want to make it clear that our campaigns have to stay focused on what you know the legitimate differences are so we can give voters information.''

Clinton was asked about the backlash against Bill Clinton, who has repeatedly criticized Obama's campaign.

''There's been a lot that's been said on both sides and some of it has been kind of generated and certainly stoked. That all needs to just calm down and everybody needs to take a deep breath,'' Sen. Clinton told CBS' ''Early Show.''

Her husband, she said, ''gets excited, gets really passionate about making the case for me.''

Clinton's Republican rivals have also stepped up their criticism of the former first lady, whom they view as the mostly likely Democratic nominee. At a GOP debate in Florida Thursday night, Arizona Sen. John McCain said she wanted to raise ''the white flag of surrender'' in Iraq and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney derisively referred to her as ''General Hillary Clinton.''

''I don't worry about that because I think we're putting together a coalition of Democrats, independents, even Republicans who are very much disappointed with the policies of the Bush administration and the approaches taken by the Republican candidates,'' Clinton told NBC. ''In fact, we know that whomever is nominated by our party will be subjected to the same kind of withering attacks, but what is great is that those attacks are so old. It doesn't reflect what's happening in our country today.''

Contributing: AP
 

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Yep Hilliary gonna see a new ball game after getting through the primaries--you think the Rebs are going to avoid her "past years of experience" it has been a virtual smorgasboard of stealing-lying-campaign scandals and depositions.

Think she definately has primary in bag--will be celebrating one way or another as took some more of her @ pickem @ oly on 5th after obamas jump with primary win--

Jan 5 6:50am Politics - Pending 100.00 to win 90.91
1. Politics - 2008 US Election
Democratic Presidential Nominee
Who will be Democrat Nominee for 2008 US Election
Hilary Clinton (-110) [pending]

Now can get obama @ 3/2 if chose to hedge--but will hold and hope I lose wager.

I am liking your wager better all the time on election AR--unless 3rd party candidate steps in pic.
She was polarizing enough to begin with and now pissing of a lot of Dems with her and Billy Bobs antics--she sure hasn't made any more friends :)
 

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If you think back to all the elections, this crap has always gone on. The media is makin a huge deal of it. The election is a crap shoot, we wont know until the results are in, just look at what happened in New Hampshire. Let the best man or woman win!! We all have to agree, this wiil be the most important election in years after what George Jr and the rifleman, Cheney has done to our country. Yes we need a change, but some of you really feel that religion won't factor in if certain people get elected....
 
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i gotta see if i can get me some hillary at -110...probably can`t get it now...

might be smart for me to wait until after obama wins so. car.,..should get an odds bump..

this is actually a mistake on obama`s part...the picture,i mean...

hillary just says what she said...'i don`t know him?...we took thousands of pictures with all kinds of folks"....

and this picture keeps the issue in the public eye...keeping obama`s association with the "slumlord" front and center....

the clinton`s are primo politicians and manipulators...gotta give credit where credit is due...
 

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love all the nut-rubbin' goin' on 'round here..

Maybe Barry was right......we are all citizens of the United States!!:142smilie

I don't know why, I don't know why??........Can't get enough of your love, babe....

:0corn
 

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:mj07: :mj07:

love all the nut-rubbin' goin' on 'round here..

Maybe Barry was right......we are all citizens of the United States!!:142smilie

I don't know why, I don't know why??........Can't get enough of your love, babe....

:0corn

remember what john cougar mellencramps said,"sometimes love don`t feel like it should,you know it..... hurts so good".....
 

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That actually why this site is the most fun.......its a gambling site........there's an ethos to the gambler......sometimes all you have left on you is your word, and if you break that, you won't last too long 'round here. Plus, its a bunch of critical thinkers (with a wild streak), so go hard to the tin, or don't go. Doesn't matter where you're from or how you think, as long as you think.

I truly think if your chips were gone, or you pumped your last Titleist into the drink.......most, if not all , these guys would flip you a chip or a rock w/o a blink..........honor among thieves, if you will....


how's that for nut-rubbin'!!:11jackson
 

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as much as I hate to do this....


Obama's Rezko problem spills over
LYNN SWEET | When Clinton spotlighted their ties in last week's debate, what had been a local issue suddenly went national

January 26, 2008
COLUMBIA, S.C.--Once Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton uttered the name "Rezko" at a Democratic presidential debate last Monday, she moved to center stage and shined a spotlight on Tony Rezko, facing a Feb. 25 trial on federal corruption charges. Sen. Barack Obama's long relationship with Rezko is a major political problem for him in the primary, and in the general election if he wins the nomination.

Until the debate, Rezko's complicated ties with Obama mainly were contained in the pages of the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune, with the national press only occasionally visiting the story of a career patron of Obama who raised money for his state and U.S. Senate campaigns.

Rezko debuted as a troublesome factor for Obama in 2006, after his wife bought a parcel of land next to a house the Obamas were purchasing on the same day.

Several things happened recently to highlight Obama's links with Rezko, which date back to Obama's days as a Harvard Law student who got a call from the Chicago businessman offering him a job. Obama turned him down, but they continued a friendship that ended after the house deal and as the federal investigations of Rezko heated up.

Clinton herself elevated Rezko's status as a factor when, during the debate, she called out Obama for "representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner-city Chicago." That was a reference to a Sun-Times story about Rezko's real estate deals where Obama handled about five hours of legal chores.

The timing was bad for Obama because Clinton's willingness to make Rezko an issue triggered major follow-up stories by several national print and television outlets just before Saturday's South Carolina primary and the Feb. 5 primary and caucus votes taking place in 22 states.

With more attention to Rezko, a photo of Rezko and Obama -- the first time the two were pictured together -- was leaked to the Washington-based Politico.com. Raising the ante, a picture of Rezko, flanked by Bill and Hillary Clinton was leaked to NBC just before Hillary Clinton was interviewed on the "Today" show" Friday morning.

"Today" host Matt Lauer asked, "Do you know anything about the picture? Do you know when it was taken? Do you remember meeting this man?"

Clinton said, "No, I don't. You know, I probably have taken hundreds of thousands of pictures."

Clinton was not told during the interview where the picture came from, but the Sun-Times has learned it was likely taken during an event connected to the 1996 Democratic National Convention in Chicago.

In a statement, the Clinton campaign said, "Today, NBC aired an undated photo of Hillary and Bill Clinton taken with Tony Rezko and tried to compare that picture to Sen. Obama's 17-year relationship with the indicted influence peddler. Over the course of her career, Hillary has probably taken tens of thousands of photos. Here are some facts you should know: Tony Rezko has never contributed a dime to Hillary or Bill Clinton. They have no relationship with Tony Rezko."

Obama has never agreed to an interview about Rezko, but after Clinton injected the name into the campaign on Monday, on Wednesday, ABC's "Good Morning America's" Diane Sawyer asked Obama about Rezko. Obama made it seem like he hardly knew Rezko -- who was a friend, a client and a fund-raiser -- and was clueless about Rezko's potential criminal legal problems that had been reported by the Chicago press.

"This is somebody who was active in politics in Illinois, who I knew. Nobody had any indications that he was engaging in wrongdoing. At the point where he was engaging in alleged wrongdoing, it had nothing to do with me, and nobody has made that allegation. And Senator Clinton knows that," Obama said.
 
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