who controls the media?

[kosar]

Eddie,

In your latest rant against Dogs That Bark, one of your main themes was that he was somehow equating length of time here with credibility.

As you know, you twisted his words. The only thing he said was that people that have been here know that he had always had his 'bio' in his profile.

How in the world could you take that, and mangle it into something sinister, or even objectionable to you, much less anybody else?

Very weak stuff, man.

 

[kosar]

And back to the subject, kind of, for a moment.

AR, if you watched any of that debate in South Carolina with the prospective candidates for the democratic nomination, you would have to agree that whoever among those misfits emerges as the frontrunner will need all the help they can get. And they can get no better help in that party than from the Clintons. Who else?

 

[djv]

Kosar is correct on that point.
Clintons 3 Repbulicans 0. If the right was smart they would stop the name dropping. It cost them every time.
And Mr bush has very high ratings. But as Iraq fades into a mess.
They are down 8 points. Still high but Dad was to. And there headed the wrong way.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Bernie, Bernie, Bernie:

This billy from Ky, begins talking about how long he's been here and implying like that makes him more visible and therefore credible than others. Because he posts his bio. Whats the point and whats your point.

Whats your point that the fact that he is an insurance man is in his bio? How did I "twist his words". Sounds like you little man need to go on the attack for some reason. Or am I twisting your words.

The point is that your SEC butt buddie has portrayed himself as some neutral, moderate guy who doesnt take sides on either the right or left when in reality he is an insurance company minion who stated that the McDonalds case was a great example in favor of tort reform.

Stick to stocks, dude. Speaking of weak ".... man....", look at your post. He's about as middle and moderate as Dr. Freeze.

Nvidia to 25,

Eddie, the long.

 

[kosar]

>This billy from Ky, begins talking about how long he's been here and implying like that makes him more visible and therefore credible than others. Because he posts his bio. Whats the point and whats your point.


--wrong, and anybody that can read can see that. He simply said that anybody who had been here for a while (don't *you* qualify? You've been here for two years. Don't play the 'embattled rookie' game) knows that he posted his personal info for a couple years. That was in response to your baiting. That's all he said.


>Whats your point that the fact that he is an insurance man is in his bio?

--Not sure what that sentence is asking.


>How did I "twist his words". Sounds like you little man need to go on the attack for some reason. Or am I twisting your words.


---you obviously not only twisted his words, but made them up as well.



>The point is that your SEC butt buddie has portrayed himself as some neutral, moderate guy who doesnt take sides on either the right or left when in reality he is an insurance company minion who stated that the McDonalds case was a great example in favor of tort reform.


---Not sure if you mean the 'stock' sec(securities and exchange commission) or the 'conference' sec(southeastern conference), but I really have no special interest in either. Whatever the case, i'm not his 'sec butt buddie(sic)'.


>Stick to stocks, dude. Speaking of weak ".... man....", look at your post. He's about as middle and moderate as Dr. Freeze.


---yeah, ok, i'll 'stick to stocks'. Seeing as how I don't have a single share in an individual company, have no interest in it and have never been in the stock forum here or anywhere, i'll stick to the stocks. WTF are you talking about? And comparing him to Dr. Freeze is ridiculous.

---Just because you don't have any of your moronic stereotypes to sink your teeth in with me, don't start making stuff up.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Bernie:

Exactly what is it that you broker anyway? Insurance related products? By the way, your post was a lot of nothing. This writer is not making anything up nor twisting any words. Other than generalized accusations show me how I "obviously" twisted his words. Actually never mind, this is quite boring.

You sound like an arrogant little twit.

Ed

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Edward
Did not mean seniority counts for anything in a forum,my point was that as long as I have been here or on any site,I have always tried to be up front. I don't hide and live by my opinions some right and some wrong.But one thing about it is I do not hide behind keyboard anonomously. I noticed you were not willing to share real name address ect. (Thats hiding anonmously)
Will agree that there are instances where an attorney needs to be brought in against Ins Companys but I have found that rare for most part. You will note that there is consumer info area on website and this gets more traffic than any others from people who are not clients for most part as they will call. Most questions are about policy definitions,locating companys of old policys of parents that have passed away ect. Some however are complaints on companys which I usually refer them to Department of insurance in their state and 9 times out of ten matters are settled there but there has been occasions that I have suggested they see an attorney and have assisted that attorneys in my views on matter.
Credentials on wall. I made no note of them other than military,and agree with you that they do not make a person.I will add to that fact that most you see are from short courses equivilent to maybe 6 hours college credit, A drop in a bucket compared to what you went through to pass the bar and I commend you on your education.But as you say "that does not make a person.
Now I do have several pictures in office that I am fond of especially one. It is entitled "The Essence of Compassion" and says----
"Resolve to be tender with the young,compassion with aged,sympathetic with the striving,and tolerant of the weak and wrong---because sometime in your life you will have been all of these"
I will buy you one as gift if you promise to put it somewhere that you can view it each day.

 

[djv]

DTB that saying is dead on. It's funny when I read it here. I thought to myself I have not seen that for about 15 years. That age one hurts the most. Once we get here the clock seems to run faster.

 

[kosar]

Bernie:

Exactly what is it that you broker anyway? Insurance related products?

I'm glad that you asked, Eddie. No, I don't broker insurance related products and there isn't a boogy-man under your bed either.

I have built a multi-trillion dollar business brokering information, advice and ideas. People come to me to enlighten them, to show them the way, if you will.

If somebody feels lost or devoid of spirit, they employ me to get them back on track.

If they feel ignorant about any subject, they call.

If they are having personal problems, they know where to come.

I receive thousands of queries a day and the business just contines to grow.

 

[AR182]

i don't care if rush is on the air, i don't care if rather is a liberal, or if fox leans to the right. there is enough media outlets for a person to gather enough info on a subject to form an educational opinion on a subject. a person just has to recognize the agenda that the news media brings to a topic.
the thing that bothers me in today's politics is the constant sniping that goes on between the right & the left. imo, this partisan bickering is what is wrong with american politics. both sides blame the other for any problems that we may have.

networks are no different than any other business. the bottom line is what counts. the reason why msnbc brought in conservative personalities is because the liberal personalities weren't bringing the viewers in. donahue had less viewers than this forum, so they bring in scarborough & savage. if they don't deliver the rating, then they too will be dropped.


stevied wrote: "As for network news anchors being Liberal maybe they are but they do not pick the news or decide what to report."

people like brokaw, rather , jennings, or o'reilly do definitely choose, along with their producer what stories to lead with & what not to report. there is no question abput this.

the reason why the news outlets couldn't stop talking about the clinton affair is rather simple. salacious behavior brings in viewers. salacious behavior by celebrities, especially by the president of the us, brings in an enormous amount of viewership that translates into ad revenue. it doesn't matter if the behavior was conducted by a democrat, a republican, or an athlete, this is a money making subject for news outlets.

 

[StevieD]

Please don't put The Spin Meister O'Reilly in the same company with Brokaw, Rather and Jennings. O'Reilly runs a show that is based on current events. He is nothing more than the equivilent of a columnist. His job, although he doesn't admit it, is to put his spin on things. The other three are anchor people. It is their job to report the news to us, without editorial spin on it.

 

[AR182]

i agree that o'reilly is a televised columinist, while the others are supposed to just report the news. but they all put a spin on the news, just some are more subtle(shaking their heads, lifting an eyebrow, etc,) than the others.

btw, stevie i have enjoyed the discussions that we have had on different subjects. i noticed that you never use personal attacks in your arguments. which i commend you on.
hope you decide to go to the superbowl get-together. the first one is on me.

 

[AR182]

kosar,

no, i didn't have the pleasure of watching that debate, i had root canal work done instead.

there is a way for someone to campaign for a candidate. that is they should stay in the back ground, & come forward when asked. but clinton doesn't do that. he must be on center stage. this makes the candidate look weak, imo.
while there are still clintonites, the 2002 elections show that the american people are tired of his routine. of all the candidates he campaigned for, only a very small amount won their elections, while a great number of them lost. of the clinton cabinet members that ran for office, only emanual won a congressional seat in the chicago area.
imo, it is better for the democrats to put clinton out to pasture & for the candidates to live in the present.
last week i stated that bush will win the re-election in a landslide. while he still may, i think he is more vunerable now because of the continuing problems in iraq, & with the sluggish economy continuing.

 

[StevieD]

AR182, I have enjoyed our jousting back and forth also. I notice that you, among others, also do not resort to personal attacks. I believe that guys like me and you are really not very far apart in our ideas. We both have the same destination in mind and we only disagree on the road to take to get there.
I do enjoy almost all the posters here. On all sides of the issues. Everybody has their own persona.
I hope to make it to one of the SuperBowl Parties but I have to say that is not my favorite week to be in Vegas. All though it is not in the cards this year we usually make a trip there once a year.

 

[djv]

Kosar would it be fair to also say you are a consultant. And if you are offering items from A to Z. You need know what is the latest news. Also items that some think are hot or not hot. In other words you must start yor day staying informed. Do you broker off some items to other experts in certain fields you don't go deep into? Sounds dam interesting. Do politics ever get in the way?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Wayne:

You indicated that you would buy me a copy of Essence of Compassion if I hang it somewhere where I could view it each and every day. I promise to do that. Now if I can only figure out how to get this nail into the inner wall of my rectum.

Eddie

 

[Chanman]

Really enjoy these posts djv, StevieD, Ar182, DTB, 6'5", ferdville, and well you get my drift. Good Lord Willing and the Creek Don't Rise I look forward to meeting everyone too.
P.S. I'm only 3 1/2 hours from LV and make it there every 4-6 mos. Any Nevadans like to meet before the SB, well that can be arranged too.:weed:

 

[djv]

Only way I get there in 3.5 hrs is a long plane ride. Then add another hour from the airport. Will be way to hot out there soon. Folks must run that air conditioning 24 hrs.