why a famous liberal democrat will vote for bush in 2004

djv

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Blitz, if we know thats true. And we don't. But if it is. And those votes help more then say 55% of the people in America. Then what would be wrong with that. AS I understand from the Republicans right now. Majority is good no matter what.
 

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DVJ Let me turn youe question around.

Did you feel safer with Taliban in power and Alqada training there unheeded?

Did you feel safer with saddam & sons running show in Iraq.

Did you feel safer before Turkey-Saudi's, Yemen and Egypt joined in fight against terrorist.

Did you feel safer before huge portion terrorist assets were frozen and Saddam having expect billions at his disposal

Did you feel safer with Lybia on the other side or opening up to inspection.

Did you feel safer with Pakistan on other side selling Nuke technology or having them side and ending info leak?

Did you feel safer when we gave North Korea economic aid and looked the other way so they could fund their nukes.

Running out of room and regardless of your answer I can flat guarantee you one thing The terrorist certainly felt MUCH safer BEFORE.

Now granted terrorist are still very dangerous and a most definte threat but picture if will for one minute what their strength would be after 8 more years of organizing and planning unabated had
"i can shout louder than Dean" Gore, or one of these others trying to convince you that the U.S. and others are not any safer, had been running the show. :scared
 

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djv, I don't think even you know who you are, but after going back a reading alot of your recent posts, don't come in here and try and represent yourself as a republican or moderate etc, you are what you talk. A liberal, maybe not extreme left but a liberal and I'm not calling you out because of that, it's your insistence that you are not.

In one post you :cry: :cry: about taxes and how we pay sooooooo much and then this lame post above about kerry and kennedy. Where do you think they get the money to run all those lame programs to "help people" YOUR MONEY, TAXES THAT YOU SUPPOSEDLY DON'T LIKE.

Maybe you are a schizo, try keeping up on your medication and you might make sense once in awhile.
 

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CT, the only cats running up the dept right now is the majority. and it's the largest ever. Dont lay that any place but where it belongs. DTB yes to Afgan no with Iraq. Iraq Has did nothing for us at this time. And we should have finished our job in Afgan first.
And remember these dudes dont mind waitng 8/9 years to plan big outtings. We still have open borders. Untill we do something about them and out ports were open.
 

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You are 100% correct on job should have been finished in
George SR watch---and in my opinion as I said before, George Sr and Swartzkoff renigging on their word and leaving the Shites hanging was a travesty which I am sure is lingering in the minds of Iraq's to this day. Suddam indeed needed to be out of there for genocide of bout 1/2 million people but I am sure GW Sr and Swartz are indirectly responsible for near 50,000 Shites deaths and that is flat out UNFORGIVABLE!!!!!!
 

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djv,

All you do is point out what is still wrong and HARP AND HARP AND HARP.

Oh yeah, we still have open borders. I completely blame Bush and the Repbulicans for that! We can't forget the rich, either. **** them, too!

And remember these dudes dont mind waitng 8/9 years to plan big outtings.

So should we put a Dem in office and let the planning begin?
 

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dawgball the question was are we safer do I feal safer. We are some what safer in some spots and still wide open in others. I feal just fine. I always felt safe. Has nothing to do with any president period. I will go about my daily life and not run around worring what the color code is for that week. Why? Because I cant do a dam thing about it nor can you or anyone else. These SOB have time to pick and choose. We have a country that is huge. We also have those in government now and in the past that just cant keep there mouths shut. If you were a terrosit tell me what your plan would be. We already let them know where you can sneak in here. We treat these folks like there fools. Well 9/11 showed us theer smarter then we thought. If we dont kill that money flow out of Saudi. Well it wont matter how long we stay or what we did in Iraq or any place else for that matter.
 

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of course we are safer now than before. the american people are now aware that there could be a terrorist attack at home and before we had no idea that terrorist attacks could be done in our country. we also finally have a president who is taking the war to the enemy instead of just talking about it.
 

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AR182 completey agree the war was in Afgan. Iraq was not needed. And we see that more each day. Now they blow each other up in Iraq. Problem they blow our guys up to. But they did that there before. At least our guys were not there to get it.
I dont see where we took this war to anyone else any other place. And we sure as hell because of the oil wont to the real place Saudi.
 

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AR you did not see over 110 people killed in Iraq by bombings just last two days. They got 2 of our guys today. Hey it's no better in Iraq then before. The killing is still on going. I guess I dont care if they wish to blow each othe up just leave our guys out of it. That and I hate to see all the children dieing there. Wall street estimates since war started over 1000 kids under 14 have died. What that prove.
 

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Blitz your dead right. And many were fron the 80's did we give a chit then. No we were in bed with Saddam then. Reagans buddy.
 

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djv, once again you show you are such a liberal jerk. The times dictate foreign policy and at that time Irag was our ally against iran, just like during WWII we were allies with the dreaded russians.

You make such stupid remarks just to get in a dig at some prominent republican.

Go take your medication and come back down to earth:thefinger
 

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ctownguy,

no need to be nasty.

although i disagree with him on this issue also, djv is a great poster here. hate to see him leave because other posters are angry with him.
 

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AR, you may be right, but his constant crying and whining about everything wrong with this country and then trying to say it's all bushes fault gets old.

You know how someone gets under your skin no matter what is said, well this jerk, excuse me, this person does that for me.

We live in the greatest country in the world and right now things are going pretty good for most americans, but everytime this idiot, excuse me, person posts you would think we were back in 1929.

I'll try, but if he keeps posting doom and gloom every post and says it's the rights fault, I won't stop :nono:
 

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Yep was 100 Iraq's killed as they were waiting in line to sign up for military. There will be more as these terrorist are no dummies and go to any means--hence the word terrorist. They try every method including trying to pit the Sunnis vs the Shites ect.
The question is what price will the Iraq's pay for freedom,statisically as far as deaths (women and children included) it would take decades to come close to totals Saddam's genocide created.
The terrorist forunately only avenue to victory is fear and propaganda. I don't think the Iraq's,after what they been thru will run and I sure as hell know our military won't.
---and I think the propaganda from terrorist states and liberals here will not float--for the next 10 months anyway.
-and I am dead serious about above statement. If you follow any of these pro terrorist media such as Aljezzera you will note that their objective is so similiar they quit writing there own stories and do steady feed of articles from NY Times,Bostom Globe. LA Times ect.
 
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