why does Bush never get it?

[Chadman]

I know you know that I was making fun of your point, Wayne...if not...then...

From your link, not sure I can extrapolate from those pages who actually captured/killed the listed - looks like many were taken care of by other countries...not sure...but for sure you are trying to take Saudi credit for that.

And, the last time you posted this kind of thing (different list) it showed nearly all that Saudi's were responsible for capturing/killing were actually in Saudi Arabia and attacking Saudi oil interests, essentially just policing their economic riches, not engaging in any real war on terror.

As for Clinton, I feel very sure that had 9/11 happened on his watch, he would have reacted in a dramatic way towards the attackers - as would, I assume, pretty much any president. I don't think he would have headed into Iraq under fabricated circumstances, either, and might have kept his eye on the ball on who actually attacked us - perhaps saving us time, money, and face in the world.

Yeah, I retained your last attempt, Wayne...:tongue

 

[Jabberwocky]

--let me give you a hint the # is fewer than the times either bill or hiliary said "I can't recall" in depositions.

I am taking up a collection to help get over your Clinton obsession/affliction. Here are just a few other prime examples for you Wayne.

1987 - Then Vice President George HW Bush (41) -- "These so-called findings on Iran -- I'll be honest -- I don't remember any of them, and I don't believe that they were even signed by the president, frankly." Herbert uttered this phrase over 150 times in his testimony.
1989 - Former President Ronald Reagan - "It?s like I wasn?t president at all." (Note, his contemporary diaries showed hands-on involvement in the Iran-Contra mess.) The Gipper uttered this phrase over 250 times during his testimony.

How many times did Scooter Libby utter this phrase during his trial? His trial was coined the "I don't recall defence".

How about Gonzales? His testimony is littered with "I don't recall." He used that phrase over 50 times in his 3 hour testimony.

This is in the same vein of you attacking Clinton for the money he has made on the lecture circuit when every ex pres in the modern era has done the same thing. Just let it go. All roads lead back to Clinton for you. It really has gotten quite pathetic.

 

[roc612]

Were going to have to see if Rush can help Wayne get a prescription for 'happy " pills or stronger if Hillary ever gets elected.
You know During the Clinton years the debt went way up and jobs were lost overseas ,the cost of gasoline tripled and healthcare costs went thru the roof.

OOPS- wrong president , thats GWB- the clown in office now

wayne -hows that nation building in iraq working for ya?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Hey Roc, this is a graph that I never get tired of posting. Republicans who think of themselves as "conservatives" is tragic comedy.

 

[gardenweasel]

You still have no idea why we invaded Iraq and who is behind it. Wow. Just keep flying the flag, thinking that you are true blue, and keep selling us out. Have you ever even researched the Carlyle group? Do you know what war profiteering is? Do you know who the little dipshit you voted into office is in bed with? Dumb ass blind "patriotism". Thanks for your contributions to America.

Oh sorry, its all about keeping you safe from Islamo Fascists terrorism. Sleep tight, and keep waving the flag. Oh yeah, and don't forget your "Support the Troops" bumper sticker.

the carlyle group?......with the joos,im` sure,not far behind....

same old tripe...

isn`t it "unusual" that iraq has been replaced as the club to beat bush with now that iraq is showing amazing improvement?...:142smilie

btw..why is it that when i search that graph,i don`t get any hits from any official government websites?..just left wing nutterbutter sites?......whitehouse .gov?.....lol


please post this graph as it shows at WhiteHouse.Gov.......thanks

you guys are funny.....and desperate...not to mention disingenuous...and i`m being kind....

your hysteria is yet another indication that liberalism is truly mental disease

 

[gardenweasel]

Love the quote by GWeasel on how we were in bed with Stalin in a cooperative effort.

Just love when we buddie with the better of two really Bad guys . As that idiot on Tv- Dr Phil would say:
" hows that working out for ya "

we buddied up with The Dictator in Panama and then had to remove him. We were buddies awhile back with Osama(when he was fighting off the Russians in afghanistan )and I think its fair to say that it backfired just a wee bit.Oh wait -It was and IT still is a fvcking disaster
we used to be buddies with Saddam way back because he was holding Iran at bay.That backfired if we believe GWB's lies to get us into this war
We were friendly with the Shah of Iran thirty years ago. The people of that country got tired of his bull crap and removed him.and we never had to fire a shot
The iron curtain feel .The Soviet Union collapsed and we never had to fire a shot.Because the people of those countries rose up ON THEIR FVCKING OWN and did it them FVCKING selves.
see the difference when the people really really really really want it- IT happens. I learned about it in school back in the day when I took Amercan History and I read about the 13 colonies rising up to gain their independence.
Lesson to be learned here is- NATION BLDG IS COSTLY and doesnt work so well unless the PEOPLE want it themselves first.
Lesson number 2 - avoid countries with religious fanatics of different sects- doesnt work at all there.
lets start another thread on how long we think it will take us to get OUT of IRAQ-
You war-mongers just dont ever get it-EVER!.
Keep cleaning your guns and renewing your NRA memberships.that will keep you safe - it must suck to live in fear 24/7 -365 days a year.Boo- hope I didnt scare ya!
Roc

we were buddies with the shah...and iran was not a problem at that time..they were a society heading toward modernity.....a more secular society...,.until jimmy carter undercut him and was instrumental in the shah`s downfall...

the great jimmy carter....thanks for everything....lol...


you saying that we didn`t cooperate with stalin?...that he wasn`t an ally during ww2?...

backfired you say?...we defeated the nazi`s in ww2...wouldn`t have happened without stalin and russia....

and we were very important in russia`s defeat in afghanistan....

maybe you have extrordinary powers of precognition(even though your posts indicate otherwise as it`s obvious you aren`t even very sharp concerning past history).........

but,these were the right things to do...

 

[escarzamd]

You guys are really being unfair - A full 20% of the 9/11 hijackers were not from there.

I think it was more like 15%, but who's counting?

:142smilie ......is McCaffery a Saudi? Sounds Irish to me:shrug:

As usual, we're still playing checkers, or worse, that stupid little game with the gophers and hammer that keeps spitting out tickets so you can buy neat stuff like SpongeBob keychains or the like. Keeps that place in a fuedal-caste system state..........perfect radical breeding ground. Let's see how the next 4 yrs goes if the next administration stays out of the Saudis' hip pocket, if those robes even have pockets.

 

[Jabberwocky]

the carlyle group?......with the joos,im` sure,not far behind....

same old tripe...

isn`t it "unusual" that iraq has been replaced as the club to beat bush with now that iraq is showing amazing improvement?...:142smilie

btw..why is it that when i search that graph,i don`t get any hits from any official government websites?..just left wing nutterbutter sites?......whitehouse .gov?.....lol


please post this graph as it shows at WhiteHouse.Gov.......thanks

you guys are funny.....and desperate...not to mention disingenuous...and i`m being kind....

your hysteria is yet another indication that liberalism is truly mental disease

I am trying to find something of substance to reply to. What do the "joos" have to do with the Carlyle group? You doubt the validity of the graph?
No problem, I will provide as much validation as you like, but then you won't respond. As for your "liberalism is a mental disease" bullshite, you guys really need to start coming up with your own lines. The parroting of Savage/Hannity/Limbaugh/etc... is really tiresome. Talk about the same old tripe.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Oh, I almost forgot, GW do you have any comments on the topic, or is your tired old "liberals are wackos" shill response all you have to offer?

 

[gardenweasel]

Oh, I almost forgot, GW do you have any comments on the topic, or is your tired old "liberals are wackos" shill response all you have to offer?

we`re rehashing the same old s-it ,j.w......

we`ve done this....my official response was:

1)we have 2 wars we`re involved in(one legit and one "illegit"...lol)...
2)we had a major disaster in katrina

3)9/11.....widfires out the giggy,bridge collapses...

you can`t barter your way out of these issues...

4)bush is about as much a fiscal conservative as mccain,huckleberry,obama and clinton.....

i never claimed he was...

unlike you guys,i`m very forthright with my criticisms of bush`s liberalness on fiscal issues and the border....

 

[Jabberwocky]

You have been GW. I give you credit for that. I was, though, referring to your comments on the Bush/Saudi connection.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

We'll see if he's as well connected as Billy Bob who got $10,000,000 from them for his library-any guess why:shrug:

so far GW's only connection is giving Terrorist and Liberals anguish

 

[Nosigar]

Dear Weasel, DTB, Nositard, and the like:

I await your responses with feverish anticipation.

Please defend Bush. Please.

Well, Rozwell don't know about defending Bush, I 'd let the arabs and mooslims eat sand all day if it were up to me.

Speaking of oil and Saudi, maybe we're running out of it and whoever has control of it when the chit hits the fan will survive ... until, of course, we can power our energy needs from sewer runoffs, that is.

http://www.earthpolicy.org/Updates/2007/Update67.htm

 

[shamrock]

We'll see if he's as well connected as Billy Bob who got $10,000,000 from them for his library-any guess why:shrug:

so far GW's only connection is giving Terrorist and Liberals anguish

really? That is the Bush s Family only connection to the Saudi s?? Really? Talking about burying your head in the sand.:shrug:

 

[Jabberwocky]

Never before in history has a president of the United States had such a close relationship with another foreign power as President Bush and his father have had with the Saudi royal family, the House of Saud. I have traced more than $1.4 billion in investments and contracts that went from the House of Saud over the past 20 years to companies in which the Bushes and their allies have had prominent positions -- Harken Energy, Halliburton, and the Carlyle Group among them. [/B]

Shamrock, it is pointless. I need to heed my own advice, but DTB is a Republican shill.

......

 

[Jabberwocky]

btw Wayne, good point. Clinton accepted +10 mil from the Saudis. Big oil owns both parties.

 

[roc612]

GW,
So what your saying is .that when we needed and supported OBL to help us get Russia out of afghanistan we was a good guy , a buddy and our friend .
Gee I guess our intelligence community "assessed him " incorrectly.My thinking is he was always an a--hole and never a "good " guy

Ironic how these acts of manipulation come back to bite us in the ass. Just ask the 3000 deceased American soldiers from this war

maybe we should look before we leap when we are jumping into Bed with these fellows.
The nation building bvllshit isnt working so well no matter how "rosie" a picture you want to paint about the current conditions in Iraq.
The true measure of this Iraq debacle cant be anaylzed until theis lovely nightmare of a conflict is OVER.
Its a waste of a Discussion until 3 or 4 years after it ends.(of course I may not be here breathing to debate it!!)
Roc