why is Bush going to VT ?

[Padre]

Ohh and just in case u would like to visit some of these "glorified" school shootings here in the US,


http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Map_School_Shootings.htm

Sad isnt it, there has been so many, they have made a map from state to state to show us this.

 

[Blitz]

Don't come into P & R Forum much anymore cause I got bored with all the BS and stuff like this is why...

Bush is damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

If he doesn't go then people are saying... "This is the largest mass shooting in our countries history, where is Bush, he doesn't care..."

whatever... people will never be happy either way...

That is all...

 

[The Sponge]

Ohh and just in case u would like to visit some of these "glorified" school shootings here in the US,


http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Map_School_Shootings.htm

Sad isnt it, there has been so many, they have made a map from state to state to show us this.

Padre, im with you on this gun shit. Its amazing just because a political side jerkoffs to the NRA the people on that side have to be sheep with them. Get rid of them all. There is no need for them and the world would be a better place without them. Let the hunters use a bow and arrow if they like to hunt. And if its a problem when people say that "the criminals will hav them" then if you get caught using one you should get the death penalty. Weasal, i see you side with the constitution on this one:142smilie After six years of the constitution getting blitzed now you found something its good for.:shrug:

 

[smurphy]

Don't come into P & R Forum much anymore cause I got bored with all the BS and stuff like this is why...

Bush is damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

If he doesn't go then people are saying... "This is the largest mass shooting in our countries history, where is Bush, he doesn't care..."

whatever... people will never be happy either way...

That is all...

Very few of us share BryanZ's view on this. I think Bush has been a horrible President, but totally support his visit.

 

[Padre]

Very few of us share BryanZ's view on this. I think Bush has been a horrible President, but totally support his visit.

Horrible, gheeez take it easy on him.

 

[smurphy]

I think he can handle the criticism.

 

[Padre]

Ohh and just in case u would like to visit some of these "glorified" school shootings here in the US,


http://www.keystosaferschools.com/Map_School_Shootings.htm

Sad isnt it, there has been so many, they have made a map from state to state to show us this.

Ohh, i hate quoting myself ie. Intense Operator,,,but

It is really disturbing the more i get into this site. I mean look at the map, that is only up until 04/01.

its missing 5 years of good ol gun slinging.

I think that they chose not to update it because it might start to look like a presidential election, with all the red dots covering the states.

 

[The Sponge]

Don't come into P & R Forum much anymore cause I got bored with all the BS and stuff like this is why...

Bush is damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

If he doesn't go then people are saying... "This is the largest mass shooting in our countries history, where is Bush, he doesn't care..."

whatever... people will never be happy either way...

That is all...

That's funny i see a bunch of guys that lean left have no problem with this.:shrug: I mean the guy is in scandals every other day why would anyone want to support that?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Sorry Smurph--should have included link with stats initially--

http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html

on the issue of guns--impossibly to keep guns out of hands of criminals or crazies--however had the the professor or another had a gun--how many lives would have been saved.

Case in point--if a person comes in our office bldg with gun -the upstairs personel are at his mercy--if he comes downstairs he has to come past my office 1st--and his chances of making it to bottom step other than face down is remote.

While guns do take innocent lives--they also save innocent lives.

P.S. under your presumption I would assume
--pencils mis-spell words
--cars make people drive drunk
--and spoons make Rosie O'donald fat

 

[Chadman]

--cars make people drive drunk

I had a brand new white on white convertible Mustang that sure was suggestive in my driveway after a few beers. I actually think I heard it say "drive me, baby" a time or two...

:slomo

 

[djv]

Shocked then shock. Why did Bush show up. I guess it's his job to do so? Can't hurt since he's been blamed for being so late in past. And it' has a hint of political. But why are we shocked? We let anyone run around with weapons. If we don't want to try and keep guns away from some of the idiots we get this out come.
Good thing Bush is not president of Iraq. He would have to go everyday to these gatherings. Today in Iraq they are a head of there daily average of 87 killed. Today over 200 dead 150 injured.

 

[gardenweasel]

Ohh, i hate quoting myself ie. Intense Operator,,,but

It is really disturbing the more i get into this site. I mean look at the map, that is only up until 04/01.

its missing 5 years of good ol gun slinging.

I think that they chose not to update it because it might start to look like a presidential election, with all the red dots covering the states.

hey padre.....last time i checked,the border was wide open....

why put yourself at risk?....just grab yourself a burro and slide back down to peaceful mexico city(only 15,000 murders per year).......

this is what i love about all these american critics....they rail on america`s faults,yet flock here in droves.....

 

[Padre]

hey padre.....last time i checked,the border was wide open....

why put yourself at risk?....just grab yourself a burro and slide back down to peaceful mexico city(only 15,000 murders per year).......

this is what i love about all these american critics....they rail on america`s faults,yet flock here in droves.....

Look I am not advocating that Mexico is by far the best place to live. First, Mexico City is the most populated city in the world, i would expect it to have a high number of deaths.

All I am saying is WE Americans need to stop thinking that we have the answers to all the questions and that we need to look at other places, just as others look to us for solutions.

Why then do we have so many shootings in schools?

And other regions of the world(regardless of living conditions) do not have any?

We need to stop bickering and find solutions, the world is watching our every move.



BTW I got pulled over the other day for drinking and driving, I was on my burro and he was drunk , not me.

 

[IntenseOperator]

Ohh, i hate quoting myself ie. Intense Operator,,,but

I got the patent on that.

you owe me $10

 

[bryanz]

TOP TEN COUNTRIES FOR HOMICIDE
COUNTRY PER 100,000
(1) Colombia 63
(2) South Africa 51
(3) Jamaica 32
(4) Venezuela 32
(5) Russia 19
(6) Mexico 13
(7) Lithuania 10
(8) Estonia 10
(9) Latvia 10
(10) Belarus 9

The ten countries that are listed here are nothing like America. Were do we rank with countries that are similar to us ?

 

[Padre]

I got the patent on that.

you owe me $10

:142smilie lol

Double or nothing. on something sweet.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Bryanz--expanded list--

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
#11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
#15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
#17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
#18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
#20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
#21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
#22 Uruguay: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
#23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
#26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
#27 Yemen: 0.0336276 per 1,000 people
#28 Dominica: 0.0289733 per 1,000 people
#29 Azerbaijan: 0.0285642 per 1,000 people
#30 Finland: 0.0283362 per 1,000 people
#31 Slovakia: 0.0263303 per 1,000 people
#32 Romania: 0.0250784 per 1,000 people
#33 Portugal: 0.0233769 per 1,000 people
#34 Malaysia: 0.0230034 per 1,000 people
#35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0229829 per 1,000 people
#36 Mauritius: 0.021121 per 1,000 people
#37 Hungary: 0.0204857 per 1,000 people
#38 Korea, South: 0.0196336 per 1,000 people
#39 Slovenia: 0.0179015 per 1,000 people
#40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
#41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
#42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
#47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
#48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
#49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
#50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
#52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
#53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
#54 Norway: 0.0106684 per 1,000 people
#55 Ireland: 0.00946215 per 1,000 people
#56 Switzerland: 0.00921351 per 1,000 people
#57 Indonesia: 0.00910842 per 1,000 people
#58 Greece: 0.0075928 per 1,000 people
#59 Hong Kong: 0.00550804 per 1,000 people
#60 Japan: 0.00499933 per 1,000 people
#61 Saudi Arabia: 0.00397456 per 1,000 people
#62 Qatar: 0.00115868 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

 

[gardenweasel]

Bryanz--expanded list--

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 Colombia: 0.617847 per 1,000 people
#2 South Africa: 0.496008 per 1,000 people
#3 Jamaica: 0.324196 per 1,000 people
#4 Venezuela: 0.316138 per 1,000 people
#5 Russia: 0.201534 per 1,000 people
#6 Mexico: 0.130213 per 1,000 people
#7 Estonia: 0.107277 per 1,000 people
#8 Latvia: 0.10393 per 1,000 people
#9 Lithuania: 0.102863 per 1,000 people
#10 Belarus: 0.0983495 per 1,000 people
#11 Ukraine: 0.094006 per 1,000 people
#12 Papua New Guinea: 0.0838593 per 1,000 people
#13 Kyrgyzstan: 0.0802565 per 1,000 people
#14 Thailand: 0.0800798 per 1,000 people
#15 Moldova: 0.0781145 per 1,000 people
#16 Zimbabwe: 0.0749938 per 1,000 people
#17 Seychelles: 0.0739025 per 1,000 people
#18 Zambia: 0.070769 per 1,000 people
#19 Costa Rica: 0.061006 per 1,000 people
#20 Poland: 0.0562789 per 1,000 people
#21 Georgia: 0.0511011 per 1,000 people
#22 Uruguay: 0.045082 per 1,000 people
#23 Bulgaria: 0.0445638 per 1,000 people
#24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people
#25 Armenia: 0.0425746 per 1,000 people
#26 India: 0.0344083 per 1,000 people
#27 Yemen: 0.0336276 per 1,000 people
#28 Dominica: 0.0289733 per 1,000 people
#29 Azerbaijan: 0.0285642 per 1,000 people
#30 Finland: 0.0283362 per 1,000 people
#31 Slovakia: 0.0263303 per 1,000 people
#32 Romania: 0.0250784 per 1,000 people
#33 Portugal: 0.0233769 per 1,000 people
#34 Malaysia: 0.0230034 per 1,000 people
#35 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of: 0.0229829 per 1,000 people
#36 Mauritius: 0.021121 per 1,000 people
#37 Hungary: 0.0204857 per 1,000 people
#38 Korea, South: 0.0196336 per 1,000 people
#39 Slovenia: 0.0179015 per 1,000 people
#40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
#41 Czech Republic: 0.0169905 per 1,000 people
#42 Iceland: 0.0168499 per 1,000 people
#43 Australia: 0.0150324 per 1,000 people
#44 Canada: 0.0149063 per 1,000 people
#45 Chile: 0.014705 per 1,000 people
#46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people
#47 Italy: 0.0128393 per 1,000 people
#48 Spain: 0.0122456 per 1,000 people
#49 Germany: 0.0116461 per 1,000 people
#50 Tunisia: 0.0112159 per 1,000 people
#51 Netherlands: 0.0111538 per 1,000 people
#52 New Zealand: 0.0111524 per 1,000 people
#53 Denmark: 0.0106775 per 1,000 people
#54 Norway: 0.0106684 per 1,000 people
#55 Ireland: 0.00946215 per 1,000 people
#56 Switzerland: 0.00921351 per 1,000 people
#57 Indonesia: 0.00910842 per 1,000 people
#58 Greece: 0.0075928 per 1,000 people
#59 Hong Kong: 0.00550804 per 1,000 people
#60 Japan: 0.00499933 per 1,000 people
#61 Saudi Arabia: 0.00397456 per 1,000 people
#62 Qatar: 0.00115868 per 1,000 people
Weighted average: 0.1 per 1,000 people

does this list include honor killing and the gibbeting of homos in the statistical breakdown?......:shrug:

 

[smurphy]

Those lists are not very useful. China, Pakistan and ALL OF AFRICA are not even measured. Plus, this list is like 5 years old. Currently, Iraq leads the world at somewhere near 1 person per 1,000 murdered. Baghdad is well above that, to easily make it the most dangerous city in the world.