Why oh why did I give her a second chance.......

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hey UT,
sorry bout the bitch, thats life tho, live and learn.

Like i told ya in the other thread, go on ahead and take some scissors and snip them twin boys off and mail them to me and I will hold onto them for you for a bit. keep ya outta trouble ya know.
Let me know when you think you have earned them back.

:D

Haha, ok, I will, they are on their way!:D
 

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Well fellas, I have officially kicked her to the curb, man, the last couple of nites have been rough--not eating, not sleeping, etc........i truly must have forgotten what its like to go thru a breakup...........On another note, here is what transpired this morning----

around 9am she calls me here at the office.

I answer, and its her. I didn?t want to hang up on her, so I talked. She asked me if id still like to ride home with her for Thanksgiving. (we live in the same town about 200 miles from here) I told her thanks, but no thanks. She then asked me if id like to come over on Friday to her parents and watch football?since she knows I love watching football. And I said I doubt id be able to make it, but id get back to her. She then proceeded to talk to me, as if we were still together?asking me how my day was yesterday, then she proceeded to tell me what she did last nite, and how she went to a concert, yada,yada,yada. I kept agreeing, to try and get off the phone quicker, and then she wanted to know everything I did. I said I went out and that was it. She then slipped, and I said I really miss you and like you so much, but caught herself. I said that?s cool, but I gotta get back to work.

So, knowing all of this, I really love this girl, and semi-believe what she says about ?how is she to know if im the one w/o dating others.? Maybe im blinded by love, but I don?t think I could make a life-long decision like that w/o dating others. Am I wrong? Anyway, I don?t plan on riding home with her, I am not going over to watch football, and plan on cutting EVERYTHING?all ties. But man, this is tuff, I am not sleeping, cant eat, cant really get her out of my head---anyone have any suggestions? Im thinking of moving out to Los Angeles, as everything here is too rememberance of her. But, I do feel deep down, that she may very well be back on down the road---so would moving be a bad idea? I wouldn?t even consider getting back with her within a year, as I said she needs time to figure out her life, and all her issues, and told her we would see where we both were at that time. Anyway, would moving 1600 miles be a bad thing if in fact I feel she may be the one down the road? Or am I being blinded by love and should I actually move and move on with my life? Just looking for some more advice???.Im sorry for the length, and sorry for the unsurety, but this is and looks to be one of the toughest things ive had to go thru in my life b/c I honestly felt she was the one and was a week away from proposing to her???glad I didn?t get that far????..



Also, i gotta buddy that is telling me this---lemme know if you think he is speaking the truth. He is telling me to cut all ties, EVERYTHING, and get on with my life and never look back. He says if it was true love, she wouldnt be doing this. Do you agree? I guess my view of this is biased, as im hoping to leave some type of backdoor open for her down the road when if in fact she sees the light in what we had after she sees what exactly is out there, but then again, i dont want to make a mistake if that in fact is what id be doing. So what do you think----Cut EVERYTHING for GOOD, and move on with my life, or move on with my life but leave the back door open?
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Don't get married before you turn 30. The only example I can use is you don't really understand why your car insurance rates go down when you turn 25.....until you turn 25:grins: Like you said you just got out of school, get established in the world make some money, buy a house...then hook up with a lady who makes just as much or more than you. I got married @ 19 was divorced by 22, now on my second did not get married again until 31...now very happy.
 

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I had in mind what I was gonna tell you, and then Ryson said it in his very first sentence. You are 24 years old and I am assuming this "other person" is relatively close to your age. Go out and get your oats sewn and let her do the same. If you don't do it, or let her do it, you will regret it on down the road. Listen to your buddy, cut all ties and move on. If you wait till you are in your upper twenties or lower thirties, you will be more mature, and will be able to deal with these kind of things better. I went through the not eating and sleeping deal about 15 years ago, so I know what you are dealing with. Don't plan on just thinking this whole thing will go away, cause it won't. Lastly, don't buckle and give into her anymore, be strong and let her know who is boss and calling the shots, act like you don't give a damn and don't care if you see her again or not. (whether you do or not is immaterial). You have plenty of time ahead of you to be married and raise kids, so that should not even be an issue at your age. Move to Caly, have fun, and they do have airports out there if this romance does rekindle in the future and she wants to make a trip out there. Don't know if this helps or not, but I have been through the whole mess with ex-wives and child support, and believe me it is something you don't want to ever have to experience. It is emotionally and financially draining, and not any fun at all. You will know when you meet the right person and make sure she has that inner beauty too. I went for the outter and will paying for it for along time. When you do find that special one, let me know and I will give you the Captain's three things to look for in a woman for long term happiness and then you can go from there. Good Luck
 

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Captain--thanks for the advice, so what are the 3 things? How do you "know" when you meet mr/mrs right? I thought i knew, but i guess i didnt.

Marine-- I currently am in the process of getting them back from that chick, as soon as I get them, ill fedex them to you for a rear-view mirror ornament..............:p
 

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UT.....

UT.....

I understand the pain you must be going through.....

Listen to Your Friend..... He's giving you good advice.....

I'll give you my story .... and you use your own head ....

because you're really the only one that knows her.....


Me.... Divorced 6 years now.... two kids -- 17 yr old girl who's just like her mother..... good lookin and knows it ..... 10 calls a day from guys chasin her tail

15 yr old boy who's a great athlete.... 97 average.... never a problem

Both live with me.....

My X--- the queen 33 at the time, wandered when the kids were 1 and 3 and I caught her....... with a 20 yr old guy..... she was scared shitless...and asked what I was going to do....

I told her we had babies and I Loved her ..... we should try to keep it together and keep our family together......

Anyhoooow.... 7 years later....guess what..... caught her cheatin again ..... and guess what .... Now she's 40 playin with a 22 year old .......

I Asked my Old Man... The Father .... First he said "Do Whatever it takes to keep it together"....... And He's a tough Fart....

A week later he asked how things were..........
When I told him he had one comment and left my office without saying another word...... He said.......word for word.... I'll never forget this...........

CUT THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE OFF..... DON'T EVER LET IT BITE YOU AGAIN

My father was right..... I still tried to save it.... but she just flipped.....

Listen to your friend...... CUT HER OFF.... if it's meant to be,,, she'll come beggin back....

Sorry for being so long winded......

Good Luck with your endevor....

Vinnie
 

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UT, first of all, listen to Vinnie, he is giving you good advice. I went through something similar to his situation, but my daughter is only 10, so I haven't had to deal with the boys calling her, yet, but it will happen. OK, the three things to look for in a long termer.

First, and this isn't a big surprise, is HONESTY. If you keep catching her in lies in one form or another, this isn't a good sign, and will probably not ever change. I don't think I have to elaborate on this one, as this is pretty much common sense.

Second, don't ever get married to anyone who is SELFISH. My ex-wife, some friends and even a few relatives who have been unfaithful all have one thing in common, they are all selfish, only thinking of themselves first. When my daughter was born, I went into Mr. Mom mode, and my X couldn't handle the fact that she wasn't # 1 on the list anymore. She was 1b, but that wasn't good enough. So while my daughter was 5 months old, she was out banging one of her coworkers on business trips while I stayed at home for 8 weekends straight and took care of my daughter and gave up all of my activities. I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule, and not every one who is selfish screws around, but I would bet that a great % of them do.

Third, if you think you have found Mrs. Right, see how she is around her father. If she adores her dad and treats him like a king, she will do the same to you. If she is bitchin him out and treats him like dirt, your next in line. Never hurts to pay attention to her mom too. The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.

As far as when you think you have found the "Right One", I can't answer that, only you can and you will know. Your wedding day should be one of the happiest days of your life, and you should feel like the biggest stud on earth the day you are standing up there in front of all your friends and family. If you or her have any reservations, something isn't right.

One little tip for long term happiness, and even to for the one nighters is this, WOMEN NEED TO FEEL APPRECIATED. If you make her feel like it was the best thing that ever happened to you the day you met her, you will either be depending on the situation:

1) getting blown
2) living in a happy home

Women love to complemented, and they should be when the time arrises. Also, a little PDA (public display of affection) never hurts either. Hold her hand or give her a kiss on top of her head while standing in line somewhere. Chicks like to have affection shown to them in front of other people, it helps to build up their self confidence.

In Review:

-never marry anyone who is dishonest, selfish, or doesn't adore their dad
-make sure she has the inner beauty to go along with the outer
-make her feel appreciated
-compliment her often
-PDA

Remember, she needs to sew her oats just like you do, let her. I don't think that there are to many chicks out there who are virgins when they get married. You are right in the middle of the funnest years of your life, enjoy it. If you two are meant for each other, you will find your way back, and she will definetely know how to track you down.

One other thing that Ryson touched on, believe me, you will be better off waiting 5-6 years anyway to get married and raise a family. I am 40 and look back at the crap I did when I was your age and the last thing I should have been doing was being a dad and changing diapers. I am so much more mature and patient now it is not even funny. I can still go out "kick it" with the best of them, but priority # 1 is my daughter, and that will never change. 15 years ago I know I wouldn't have been the dad that I am now.

Good Luck and I hope this helps.

I think that is enough therapy for one day. NO CHARGE:D :D
 

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oh man, just checked my messages and she left me a voice mail last nite about 1am telling me that she wanted to talk, and that she missed me and please call her back...........im guessing the consensus is dont even call back?:shrug:


Man, im having the hardest time resisting..........but i gotta stay strong............By the way, what reason exactly should i give her of why its over? I was just thinking about that, and couldnt really pin it down to one sentence or two.........so call back or no call back? (even if i were to call back, it would be a friend or acquaintence call, no more than a min or two, and done)
 

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Re: UT.....

Re: UT.....

vinmaj said:
I understand the pain you must be going through.....

Listen to Your Friend..... He's giving you good advice.....

I'll give you my story .... and you use your own head ....

because you're really the only one that knows her.....


Me.... Divorced 6 years now.... two kids -- 17 yr old girl who's just like her mother..... good lookin and knows it ..... 10 calls a day from guys chasin her tail

15 yr old boy who's a great athlete.... 97 average.... never a problem

Both live with me.....

My X--- the queen 33 at the time, wandered when the kids were 1 and 3 and I caught her....... with a 20 yr old guy..... she was scared shitless...and asked what I was going to do....

I told her we had babies and I Loved her ..... we should try to keep it together and keep our family together......

Anyhoooow.... 7 years later....guess what..... caught her cheatin again ..... and guess what .... Now she's 40 playin with a 22 year old .......

I Asked my Old Man... The Father .... First he said "Do Whatever it takes to keep it together"....... And He's a tough Fart....

A week later he asked how things were..........
When I told him he had one comment and left my office without saying another word...... He said.......word for word.... I'll never forget this...........

CUT THE HEAD OF THE SNAKE OFF..... DON'T EVER LET IT BITE YOU AGAIN

My father was right..... I still tried to save it.... but she just flipped.....

Listen to your friend...... CUT HER OFF.... if it's meant to be,,, she'll come beggin back....

Sorry for being so long winded......

Good Luck with your endevor....

Vinnie

sorry Vinnie you went thru this, but thank you for the advice. I feel deep down she may be the one, but im not waiting around for her and am moving on with my life. But, how do i know its been enuf time if and when she comes back? That's the issue im trying to decide on, i mean, 6 mos, 1 yr, 5 yrs, i dunno, this is one of the toughest things ive ever had to deal with.........I know though we will talk again in the near future, and she will want to know what im thinking of what we have left..........how should i sum it up? What exactly should i say? Peace, Cya biatch, or what? Tell her to figure her life and issues out and then see?
Im just perplexed right now of what exactly to say..........
 

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...if you want to be happy for the rest of your life...
....get an ugly woman to be your wife..

....if you'll listen to my point of view..
.....get an ugly girl to marry you..:D



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Why oh why did i give her a second chance? So you could go out on top. If every thing went right for you that last night. You poked her good for old time sake. Now take the high road and let it rest. ;)
 

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UT ,I live in NYC but go to CALI alot.You will see women there who will make you forget EVERYTHING.If the girl your fretting over pulls this MANIPULATING SHIT now,getting married or back together will NOT change.She knows that you will always take her back no matter what she does.FORGET her.You got some great advice from alot of good people.GO TO CALIFORNIA AND LIVE YOUR LIFE ON YOUR TERMS.You wont be sorry.....P.S. DO NOT GIVE THIS GIRL YOUR NEW ADDRESS.I wish you nothing but the best of luck on your FRESH START!!!!
 

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UT... i know the feeling of not eating...sleeping....etc... i was with a girl for three years ...lived together the whole nine...and i came home 3 days before the BAR exam and had a TV/couch left...didnt see it coming... could go into more detail but you get the picture...

the first couple of weeks are going to be difficult ..especially with your living situation ....i dont see how you can break all ties with her living underneath you...that said ...the best advice i can offer is to try and rationalize the situation without letting your emotions sway you...THIS WILL BE THE HARDEST THING TO TRY AND DO...but read over your post and think about what her actions and statements reflect....

you and only you can make a decision about this relationship....i learned a great deal about myself and what i want from a women from the situation i was in...did i want to call her...YES...did i want to go see her?...YES...did i want to give it a second chance?...YES....but when i thought about what she did ..i realized that this GIRL was self centered...immature....uncaring...and in a general sense not a very good pERSON....i dont know what your situation was regarding the reason why your relationship originally went sour...but that is were you have to focus your thoughts because that is the origion of this whole ordeal

i can make one guarantee...if you stay strong and blow her off..she will chase you and it seems that has already begun....but the best way to put closure on the situation is to hit it head on...think about what you feel ..think about what she has done...and think about what type of pERSON her actions reflects...then think about whether you want that type of person in your life...then talk to her in PERSON and move on...whether with her or without her....

i was 25 when that happened to me....im 29 now..i can honestly say that i thought she was the "one" when it happened and i was devastated...but i took the BAR exam and passed ...and then decided i didnt want that type of person in my life....we are lucky that the situation didnt involve...finances/house/or worst of all children....

you need to make a decision and once you make it dont regret it...you did it for a reason....I wish you the best of luck..i know its tough right now....but you will be OK ...and a much stronger person in the end...

COOZ
 

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Great advice Cooz!! Some beautiful girls in Cali, got one sister in Point Loma, one in Tiberon, mother is in Rancho Santa Fe. When I go out there I am always impressed w/the girls compared to back east, specifically Boston area. There are alot of beautiful girls in Texas as well, Aunt and Uncle have a small ranch outside of Houston, retired geologists from Amoco, just started to work it, visited them in May, alot of good looking women. Point is there are alot of beautiful girls out there, change of scenery as well as cooz's advice might help. Sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees.
 

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UT,
Everyone goes through what you are going through right now. I am not trying to dilute the situation only saying that this is a normal thing. All men get their hearts broken, all are smitten at one point or another, all get mentally beat up by the unpredictability of women.
I personally, have had it happen a number of times. I never thought I would live past Debbie Martin in high school, or Dina Brandom after her, or Lisa, Tina, Karen, Mary, or whoever comes next. I dont know how you know if that one person is the right one, only time will tell. But hanging on to something that just isn't there isn't healthy. Ask yourself if it the "relationship" you will miss, and all the security, physical attraction, escalated sense of well being that a "relationship" brings with it. Or is it the "person" you will miss, and the personal treatment, compassion, selflessness, genuine caring and true love that only "that person" can bring. Don't confuse the two, dude. Women are a tough nut to crack.
Hell my ex-wife had eight personalities and seven of them hated my guts!!
If this woman was the right one for you she would treat you like it. If this woman was the right one for you she would never allow you to go through this kind of personal pain. Confusion and a wandering eye are hardly the building blocks for a life long commitment.
The only way to put this woman behind you is to take a good look at what you have become at her hand and ask yourself if you are willing to starve from stress every couple of months or years.
Leopards never change their spots.
Good Luck
 

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It is suprising how easy it was for me to forget about my ex when I nailed a fresh piece of ass. We've all been through the same ole chit, but when you land some strange, you will feel so much better! The quicker the better. Maybe try to hammer her friend like fatdaddy suggested. :lol:

GL
 

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UT---

Any updates? Haven't heard from you in a while. Please don't tell all of us that you saw her over the weekend!!!

There has been some interesting and useful discussion on this subject and I hope you the best. To paraphrase some of the above posts, stay busy to keep your mind off of her and try to get up with someone else (you need your physical pleasure :D ) If she sees you with others she will come after you if she's the one! Keep us up to date!
 
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