Why the Neocons Hate Michael Steele

[Lumi]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Why the Neocons Hate Michael Steele[/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The Real Sin of Michael Steele[/FONT][/FONT]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]by Patrick J. Buchanan[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]​

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[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]"This was a war of Obama's choosing. This is not something the United States has actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in." [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Strictly speaking, Republican Party Chair Michael Steele was way off base when he made this remark at a closed-door meeting of party contributors in Connecticut. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]For the war began in 2001 under George W. Bush and was backed by almost all Americans, who collectively cheered the downfall of the Taliban and the rout of al-Qaida from its sanctuary in Afghanistan. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Yet, Steele was not entirely wrong. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Today, a majority of Americans do not believe the nine-year war in Afghanistan is any longer worth the rising cost in blood and money. And by declaring it a "war of necessity" and tripling U.S. forces there, this president has made it "Obama's war" every bit as much as LBJ in 1964 and 1965 made Vietnam "Johnson's War." [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]While Steele has spent every waking hour since his words hit the airwaves explaining, and declaring his commitment to victory, of far more interest is the alacrity with which neoconservatives piled on the chairman, demanding his resignation, while senators castigated him for remarks unacceptable for a Republican Party leader. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]William Kristol's demand for Steele's resignation was echoed by Charles Krauthammer and Liz Cheney, daughter of the vice president. From Afghanistan, Steele was attacked by Sens. Lindsey Graham and John McCain, who suggested he think again about his capacity to lead the Republican National Committee. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Behind the swiftness and severity of the attacks on one of their own by Republican pundits and politicians are motives more serious and sinister than exasperation at another gaffe by Michael Steele. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The War Party is conducting this pre-emptive strike on Steele to send a message to dissenters. In Krauthammer's phrase, it is now a "capital offense" for a Republican leader not to support the Obama troop surge and the Obama-Petraeus policy. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Yet, a majority of Americans oppose the Afghan war. And the point made by Steele about the futility of fighting in Afghanistan has been made by columnists George Will and Tony Blankley, ex-Rep. Joe Scarborough, Ron Paul, and antiwar conservatives and moderates. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]When exactly did supporting Obama's war policy become a litmus test for loyal Republicans? [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]What the War Party is up to here is a naked attempt to impose its orthodoxy, about the threat of "Islamofascism" and the Long War, on the entire GOP, 28 months before a presidential election. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Republicans of all persuasions should recoil at such arrogance.[/FONT]

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[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]For whence does it come, if not the same hawks and neocons who beat the drums for a unnecessary war on Iraq that cost 4,000 U.S. dead, 35,000 wounded and $700 billion, while making widows and orphans of half a million Iraqis?[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]And what was that all about? Invading and occupying a country that never attacked us ? to strip it of weapons it did not have. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Certainly, as the last nominee of the Republican Party, McCain can claim to be titular leader, as could George W. Bush, or Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell or John Boehner. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]But, if memory serves, the Bush-McCain party was repudiated in landslides in 2006 and 2008, giving Democrats the presidency, the House and a veto-proof Senate. And high among the reasons the country turned on the GOP is that, like Harry Truman and LBJ, the Bush-McCain GOP marched us into wars they could not win and could not end. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]This campaign to censure and remove Steele is designed to censor debate and stifle dissent on Obama's war policy, as long as Obama's war policy closely tracks the agenda of the War Party. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Should Obama declare that he intends to stand by his deadline and begin pulling U.S. troops out of Afghanistan by July 2011, those Republicans today accusing Steele of not supporting the troops and undercutting the president in wartime would themselves begin undercutting the president. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]In November, the Republican Party will make gains. But the party will be deluding itself if it assumes this means America wants a return to the interventionist policies that brought us the Iraq and Afghan wars. The country will simply be saying: We reject Obama's liberalism as emphatically as we rejected Bush neoconservatism. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Most Americans today approve of the agreed-upon end of U.S. combat operations in Iraq by August and removal of all U.S. troops by the end of 2011, just as they support an American withdrawal from Afghanistan, starting a year from now. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]But to contend that those who want the withdrawals to begin sooner, or those who want them to begin later, are unpatriotic and do not support the troops is itself unpatriotic. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]The time for Republicans to decide on what the foreign policy of the party and a new administration should be is in the primaries of 2012. Until then, let every voice be heard, including that of Michael Steele.[/FONT]
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[StevieD]

Not a bad article. A lot of truth in there. It must be hardto be a Republican these days. Having to be against a War that you supported for 8 years without victory. Same can be said for the DEMS in the opposite. Truth is Obama is more neocon than we give him credit for.

 

[THE KOD]

Not a bad article. A lot of truth in there. It must be hardto be a Republican these days. Having to be against a War that you supported for 8 years without victory. Same can be said for the DEMS in the opposite. Truth is Obama is more neocon than we give him credit for.

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He has no choice but to be neocon concerning this war.

Just as whoever is the next President will probably have to again if we are out of there.

These terrorists are not going to stop coming at us.

Al Queda at some point is going to do somethng nasty to us again. Its just when .

We have no clue about the dangers we really face day to day. The top secret information about such things does not come out for 10 years or so.

 

[Lumi]

NeoCons need to look themselves in the mirror and really give it a good think !

Are they a Neocon, or are they a Libertarian? Not a Tea Party Shill ! No step away from that Fox News Operation Brain Washing ! The same can be said for Liberal, or Democrats, how close to being a Libertarian are they? This isn't the Lyndon LaRouche LP, this is closer to Jeffersonian Government then ANYTHING THAT THE DONKEYS AND THE ELEPHANTS CAN OFFER !

But there are those who like to pick a work, a phrase or a sentence out of context and turn it into a major drama.

The United States Justice Department turns it's back when Black Panthers violates voters rights. The Justice Department Sues the State of Arizona, MSNBC, errrr State Run News refers to SB 1070 as "the Show Me your Papers" Bill ! Easy for that Pervert prick Olberman to say that from his Palace in the GE Tower, get your fat ass in the middle of the shit mother fucker. The Government treats it's people like slaves.

It has only just begun...

 

[StevieD]

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He has no choice but to be neocon concerning this war.

Just as whoever is the next President will probably have to again if we are out of there.

These terrorists are not going to stop coming at us.

Al Queda at some point is going to do somethng nasty to us again. Its just when .

We have no clue about the dangers we really face day to day. The top secret information about such things does not come out for 10 years or so.

I agree Scott that they will try something else. They are just biding their time. Probably getting a kick out of watching us destroy ourselves in Iraq and Afghan. These two wars took a heavy toll on us and left us vulnerable for further attacks The Taliban has been fighting two of the worlds super powers for 17 years now. The Russians ended up imploding and we seem to be going down the same path.

 

[Lumi]

almost 30 years StevieD

if you go back to the initial invasion

 

[THE KOD]

I agree Scott that they will try something else. They are just biding their time. Probably getting a kick out of watching us destroy ourselves in Iraq and Afghan. These two wars took a heavy toll on us and left us vulnerable for further attacks The Taliban has been fighting two of the worlds super powers for 17 years now. The Russians ended up imploding and we seem to be going down the same path.

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I agree

what really starts getting to me is this.

We are spending trillions in Afghanistan.

Now if the trillions were for killing taliban and al queda I understand.

But there is such a high percentage for essentials to run a war its sickening.

Getting gas in there runs into the many millions.

Food, shelter, clothing. Kicks us in the ass.

Alot of days nothing happens much and we still pay who knows how much just to keep the people there.

Its so much waste per terrorist killed its just pathetic.

 

[Trench]

I agree Scott that they will try something else. They are just biding their time. Probably getting a kick out of watching us destroy ourselves in Iraq and Afghan. These two wars took a heavy toll on us and left us vulnerable for further attacks The Taliban has been fighting two of the worlds super powers for 17 years now. The Russians ended up imploding and we seem to be going down the same path.

The problem is deterrence. Our foreign policy continues to be mired in Cold War era deterrence theory. We're trying to apply deterrence theory to terrorism and it doesn't work. Our foreign policy in the Middle East has only created more terrorists. The "War on Terror" was never about stopping terrorism in the U.S. That can only be done on U.S. soil, in U.S. airspace and in U.S. waters.

Trench