Wrong Team Favored ???

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home game for pittsburgh?
lets see, game is two states away
in a dome
on a different playing surface than they play on at heinz
 

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Don't forget that the turf at Ford Field is the same surface that Seattle plays on at home.......It's gonna favor the faster team and honestly, I'm not sure yet which team that is yet.
 

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socrstud said:
This is why they win

1)Bettis is going home running game is going to be solid.
2) This is a home game 4 Pitt, expect Seattle to look like a visitor in the SuperBowl
3) Their is a reason why they have gotten to the super bowl and are favored.....And usually it is the superbowl favs that come out the winner
4) Seattle is going to a different time zone, and do not play well against east coast teams out of thier time zone.
5) NFC stands for NO FREAKING CHANCE

GL
bettis last 3 games.
15 for 30 yds
17 for 46
10 for 52
bettis will have nothing to do with a steelers win.he will only be a factor if he fumbles the game away.
 

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During the regular season Pittsburg went just 2-4 against teams that made the playoffs. Seattle 2-2 and the losse were in the first 4 games. So far in the playoffs nearly every ball has bounced Pitts way. If that continues they win but I think it catches up to them. They really haven't had to play from behind. Totally different game when you are behind. Cincy lose qb, huge break. Got up early on Indy. In the denver game, Bailey is close for a pick for 6, instead Pitt first down. Pitt fumbles and the call is reversed. Denver fumbles and it goes 10 yrds to 3 pitt players. Pitt fumbles and it goes out of bounds. Pitt had almost no offense in the second half vs Denver and Indy. Played extremely conservative. If Indy runs the Bettis fumble back they are not even in the superbowl. AFC vs NCF is not even relevant.

Coach seems to make hot head decisions in the game with challenges which could be costly. You heard that one here first.
 

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During the regular season Pittsburg went just 2-4 against teams that made the playoffs. Seattle 2-2 and the losse were in the first 4 games. So far in the playoffs nearly every ball has bounced Pitts way. If that continues they win but I think it catches up to them. They really haven't had to play from behind. Totally different game when you are behind. Cincy lose qb, huge break. Got up early on Indy. In the denver game, Bailey is close for a pick for 6, instead Pitt first down. Pitt fumbles and the call is reversed. Denver fumbles and it goes 10 yrds to 3 pitt players. Pitt fumbles and it goes out of bounds. Pitt had almost no offense in the second half vs Denver and Indy. Played extremely conservative. If Indy runs the Bettis fumble back they are not even in the superbowl. AFC vs NCF is not even relevant.

Coaches record in big games is not very good. Coach seems to make hot head decisions in the game with challenges which could be costly. You heard that one here first.
 

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socrstud said:
This is why they win

1)Bettis is going home running game is going to be solid.
2) This is a home game 4 Pitt, expect Seattle to look like a visitor in the SuperBowl
3) Their is a reason why they have gotten to the super bowl and are favored.....And usually it is the superbowl favs that come out the winner
4) Seattle is going to a different time zone, and do not play well against east coast teams out of thier time zone.
5) NFC stands for NO FREAKING CHANCE

GL

I definitely agree with #1 and #3.

If Carolina had their running game (starting running backs) that game would have been very different. PITTSBURGH WILL HAVE A RUNNING GAME and that will make Big Ben all the more effective.

#3 is just statistically true.

I gotta love Pitt in this situation.
 

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I'm a huge Steelers fan so take it fwiw,

Pitts big problem all year was pass defense.

It has totally changed in the playoffs far better coverage .

To me the Superbowl was when they played Indy.

I think Seattle is the 2nd best team they are facing in the playoffs.

Pitt has the more talented players, Ben is playing like a veteran QB & they have opened up the offense.

I stayed away from the 1st 2 playoffs games but made a nice size wager on them at Denver.

Not sure yet how big of a bet this game will be but it's Pitt or nothing here.

good luck to whoever you bet :)

remember vinnie is here to help ! :mj07:
 

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it would be because the better team all year lost to a wld card that went on a hot streak at the right time.

sure they were a wild card, but they wouldn't have been if Big Ben had not been hurt! They lost two games they could have and would have one with Ben; Ravens, Bengals

This teams record should have been 13-3 in the regular season

my humble opinion -Steelers win and that's that-
 

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one more thing, I know some of you are gonna say they would have lost to the Bengals anyway, but they only lost by 3, I think, maybe six, and he was still hurt. Hell, I know they put up 30 something, being HURT

sorry fellas, just a little passionate about it
 

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socrstud said:
This is why they win
1)Bettis is going home running game is going to be solid.

-Bettis playing in Detroit makes absolutely no difference in Pitt's ability to run the ball and/or Seattle's ability to stop the run...the Seahawks run D is very solid

3) Their is a reason why they have gotten to the super bowl and are favored.....And usually it is the superbowl favs that come out the winner

-that wasn't the case last season...I believe NE didn't cover the points...but I think your right about favorites usually win but do they cover? Does anyone have a stat for that?

Seattle is going to a different time zone, and do not play well against east coast teams out of thier time zone.

-Its not like Seattle is flying in the night before the game. They will have plenty of time to get used to the time zone. And what evidence do you have that Seattle plays bad against East coast teams they went 6-2 against East Coast teams this season. Excluding the last three games because they had home field wrapped up. One of the East Coast losses were Wash and well they beat Wash when it mattered the most. And to get to the SB they had to beat two east coast teams.

5) NFC stands for NO FREAKING CHANCE

-then why even play the game let's just give Pitt the SB trophy and be done with it

I'm not going to argue the fact that Pitt will have more fans then Seattle but that aspect of the game is more then obvious. And I still haven't made up my mind on my play just yet so I am backing neither team, but most of your logic of why Pitt wins is somewhat questionable
 
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It's the same old crap that we've been hearing all month.....it's just a different team this time. Seattle can't do this and Seattle can't do that......Look, I haven't bet this game yet but I'll tell you this much. Pittsburgh isn't going to destory this Seattle team, Seattle CAN and will stop the run. When they do this...that puts the game into the hands of the ROOKIE QB.....I don't care how many games he's won, he is 23 years old in the biggest game in the NFL, he can be rattled and forced to make bad decisions. This Seattle D has the most sacks of any team in the league and they will bring pressure from everywhere.
 

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If anything I think Pittsburgh is not getting enough credit from the bettors, consider this:

At one point they were 7-3 with all three losses coming on the final play of the game.

Week 12 Roethlisberger has first game back after surgery and they get pummeled at Indy (which most teams did).

Week 13 they lose by a TD to a decent Cincy team

Week 14 beat a Chicago team that, at least then, people thought to be one of the favorites to be in Detroit.

Week 15 Beat Minny, no big deal as it turns out.

Week 16 Kill Cleveland in a shutout, again, no big deal.

Week 17 Beat Detroit, 4 must wins in a row.

Looking back on an 11-5 season that could easily been 14-2 considering the three losses on the last play of the game.

They go on the road and beat Cincy with Kitna having as good a day as Palmer would have, though some must think Plamer would have thrown for 500+ yards and demand his injury was the difference as he was also going to play linebacker and stop those 31 points the offense put up.

They go on the road and beat an unbeatable Indy team despite the best effort of the officials and now people say, well Indy wasn't that good or they were ripe for an upset.

Again go on the road and beat down the Broncos, who now weren't that good and were ripe for an upset. Amazing luck on the Steelers part that they kept running into teams that were over-rated and ripe for an upset at home.

30-7 in their last 37 games including playoffs.

Seattle gets a bye week, plays two games at home, Surviving against Washington and out playing Carolina in the process.


Do I think Pittsburgh wins this game? Well I hope so, obviously, but I see the two teams matching up fairly evenly. Seattle's offensive and defensive lines will pose trouble for the Steelers, no doubt. To say the wrong team is favored just doesn't make sense to me though, perhaps the line should be 2.5 or 3, but certainally not -4 for Seattle.
 

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Killian, Ben is not a rookie. Both quarterbacks will have tremendous pressure on their shoulders in this game. Whichever quarterback performs better under the pressure, his team will win the game. That's all you need to think about between now and then. Good luck!
 

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23 years old is a rookie in my book.......And in a game of this magnitude it's even more of a factor. I'm not saying that he's a bad QB just that he's young and we all know what happens around a game like this with all the hoopla and media. I agree that the QB that best handles this kind of pressure will win the contest. They do match up evenly......both fast, both can run, both teams have good receivers .....good QB's ......good defenses right down to the weak secondarys that both will try to protect via the pass rush. It's gonna be a hell of a game.......and I don't think either team will give an inch.
 

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Killian, it's early yet, but that is by far and away the best write up I have seen on the game yet. Too many people on this site bet based on what team they like, or more importantly, teams they don't like.

I hear a lot of fans around here saying this one is a smal dunk for the Steelers, but if they take of the black and gold colored glasses they would see a very even matchup that will go down to the 4th quarter.

Only thing I will disagree with you on is about Ben being a rookie QB, I think he is leaps and bounds better than most 23 year old starters.

Good luck to you and your Hawks, should be a memorable one.
 

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penguinfan said:
Only thing I will disagree with you on is about Ben being a rookie QB, I think he is leaps and bounds better than most 23 year old starters.
I have been against Ben and explaining how his experience would cause trouble for Pitt in their last two games...but obviously that wasn't the case in both games...the kid just plays beyond his years in experience and is something special...but one thing that I think has been over looked is Cowher's game-plan and in game play calling...he has been phenomenal in that aspect...but I do agree this game should be won in the fourth and I love both defenses and I am pondering a possible under play
 

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thom24ad said:
.but I do agree this game should be won in the fourth and I love both defenses and I am pondering a possible under play

I'm just scratching my head at how high the total is and yet I see so many people on the OVER, I must be missing something as I really see a 24-17 type game here.
 

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penguinfan said:
I'm just scratching my head at how high the total is and yet I see so many people on the OVER, I must be missing something as I really see a 24-17 type game here.

-Not sure either, I'm thinking maybe SBs tend to be high scoring or maybe because both teams scored 34 points in Conference Champs but I just don't think there will be more than 47 points scored
 

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I think in the superbowl unlike in the regular season if you get up you don't take it easy. You keep pressing to score. Guys want to say they scored in the superbowl. Teams that are behind take chances. Those can payoff in scores or back fire and leave the other team with good feild position. This all results in more scoring than normal. Why else would there be finals like 51-7? If either team gets a lead of any amount look for teams to start taking chances. Don't use regular season numbers to predict the score.
 

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i'm pretty sure that based on history....

the 2 weeks between games has produced more overs than unders...

and that with just the usual week between games has produced more unders than overs....
 
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