good grief you have to be a complete moron to see John Kerry through Auspice's glasses
like a cow going to slaughter....blind following the blind
like a cow going to slaughter....blind following the blind
You can stick a fork in the lies and spin.
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This just goes to show once again how low the Bush people are willing to go to win an election. Now, we are supposed to question the validity of the medals of all the heroes while we honer those who took measures to dodge the draft. It is sickening that the American public puts up with this paid posse of Vietnam lying scumbags. I dunno if Kerry is a hero or not. All I know is that the guys on the boat with him say he was. They gave him the medals some 35 years ago. He has led a public life for all those years. And for 35 years of public life his word and the word of the men who served with him was good enough. Good enough until he runs against George Bush and the cowardly, lying, crooked machine that put him in power and has tried to steal America. They did the same to John McCain. They will run over anyone who stands in their way. Except of course Bin Laden because for 3 years they can't find a 6 foot 5 Arab, with a pee stained sheet, running around the desert.
Stevie, after seeing that post I'm convinced our country is
going to hell in a hand basket, and if enough people hate
Bush to elect John Kerry, you deserve what you get.
going to hell in a hand basket, and if enough people hate
Bush to elect John Kerry, you deserve what you get.
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StevieD
you wrote "It is sickening that the American public puts up with this paid posse of Vietnam lying scumbags."
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ain't it though. The dumbing down of america is complete. I'm now convinced 46% (Bush's followers) of the population is genetically challenged. They lack the necessary chromozomes to cognitively function. Moore was 100% correct, we're the stupidest people on the planet (and he hasn't even got a load of freeze yet).
It's just utterly dumbfounding how much the bar is lowered for this monkey faced mental midget to retain his presidency. It's a venal party ran by a flawed administration.
you wrote "It is sickening that the American public puts up with this paid posse of Vietnam lying scumbags."
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ain't it though. The dumbing down of america is complete. I'm now convinced 46% (Bush's followers) of the population is genetically challenged. They lack the necessary chromozomes to cognitively function. Moore was 100% correct, we're the stupidest people on the planet (and he hasn't even got a load of freeze yet).
It's just utterly dumbfounding how much the bar is lowered for this monkey faced mental midget to retain his presidency. It's a venal party ran by a flawed administration.
Auspice:
I couldn't agree more. I believe Bush backers fall into two catagories
1) the uninformed, mentally challenged crowd who think that this guy is really on there side and making the US stronger when in actuality he believes in centralized wealth and that the conservative elite should govern, and
2) those that actually know what he is doing to the environment, Constitution, middle class, military, foreign policy, and the future. Those that know what he is doing as indicated above who are, as he said to the "haves", his "base", but do not care and in fact encourage.
In my view catagory 2 are the dangerous, greedy, evil people who in as sense have taken over this country and the minds and beliefs of those who fit into catagory 1 (who are in fact most of the right wing posters on this board). Cheney is the poster boy for catagory 2.
Catagory 1 people are actually simpletons who buy, hook, line and sinker, the lies, murder, and other crimes this administration commits all the while wrapping themselves around the flag. They sound bite people who do not know the issues but believe only in mom, apple pie and chevrolet. Dr. Freeze is the poster boy for catagory 1.
Eddie
I couldn't agree more. I believe Bush backers fall into two catagories
1) the uninformed, mentally challenged crowd who think that this guy is really on there side and making the US stronger when in actuality he believes in centralized wealth and that the conservative elite should govern, and
2) those that actually know what he is doing to the environment, Constitution, middle class, military, foreign policy, and the future. Those that know what he is doing as indicated above who are, as he said to the "haves", his "base", but do not care and in fact encourage.
In my view catagory 2 are the dangerous, greedy, evil people who in as sense have taken over this country and the minds and beliefs of those who fit into catagory 1 (who are in fact most of the right wing posters on this board). Cheney is the poster boy for catagory 2.
Catagory 1 people are actually simpletons who buy, hook, line and sinker, the lies, murder, and other crimes this administration commits all the while wrapping themselves around the flag. They sound bite people who do not know the issues but believe only in mom, apple pie and chevrolet. Dr. Freeze is the poster boy for catagory 1.
Eddie
listen auspice & eddie why don't you both put accross your points without insulting the people who disagree with you.
i can assure you that there are bush supporters who are as informed as you two.
i'm glad that the football season has started so i can stop reading the posts by people who think that they are intellectually superior to others.
i can assure you that there are bush supporters who are as informed as you two.
i'm glad that the football season has started so i can stop reading the posts by people who think that they are intellectually superior to others.
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Wow you folks are getting worked up. But it's a sign of the times. This country is split. And the guy at the top was going to help ease that. The last election gave no one a mandate to run wild. Even if Gore had been given the job by the supreme court. He to would have been charged with stopping some of this division. Guys it starts at the top. You get here and in your news everyday what many Americans feel. We are almost forced to be divided. When you have some one who cant admit a mistake. Will not compromise as our government always has. This is what you get. At least it sure looks that way. And this President did not even get the most votes. He should be representing a middle of the road if ever there was one. Giving in more and more to far right just will never work.
AR182
you wrote "listen auspice & eddie why don't you both put accross your points without insulting the people who disagree with you."
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You must mean like how your convenient christian right wing calls me a complete moron a couple posts prior to my slam, right? More of your 'convenient christian right philosophy huh princess? Only treat me like a princess while I call you names and flame your ass. Sorry princess, it don't work like that.
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"i'm glad that the football season has started so i can stop reading the posts by people who think that they are intellectually superior to others."
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You mean KNOW they're intellectually superior asshole. No, let me correct that....ASSHOLE!!
you wrote "listen auspice & eddie why don't you both put accross your points without insulting the people who disagree with you."
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You must mean like how your convenient christian right wing calls me a complete moron a couple posts prior to my slam, right? More of your 'convenient christian right philosophy huh princess? Only treat me like a princess while I call you names and flame your ass. Sorry princess, it don't work like that.
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"i'm glad that the football season has started so i can stop reading the posts by people who think that they are intellectually superior to others."
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You mean KNOW they're intellectually superior asshole. No, let me correct that....ASSHOLE!!
AR:
Of ill humor today? Maybe a doobie to chill you out. I've never said I was intellectually superior to others. If you think so, thank you. As a centrist AR, next time Wayne, Freeze, Ctown or any of your other right wing bretheren posts their view pointsin like manner, I will anticipate a similar response from you condeming their posts.
Funny, how you state I cannot state my points without insulting anyone yet you call me an asshole. Hmmmmm. Typical right wing double speak? Oh yes, those Bush supporters who are informed as I am fall into catagory 2 above.
Good luck in football. Hope you win lots of money. By the way, Barcelona's was at best average.
Eddie
Of ill humor today? Maybe a doobie to chill you out. I've never said I was intellectually superior to others. If you think so, thank you. As a centrist AR, next time Wayne, Freeze, Ctown or any of your other right wing bretheren posts their view pointsin like manner, I will anticipate a similar response from you condeming their posts.
Funny, how you state I cannot state my points without insulting anyone yet you call me an asshole. Hmmmmm. Typical right wing double speak? Oh yes, those Bush supporters who are informed as I am fall into catagory 2 above.
Good luck in football. Hope you win lots of money. By the way, Barcelona's was at best average.
Eddie
not to step on anyone's toes, but isn't a little ironic ar, that 6-7 posts up dr. freeze can call people who side with kerry, morons.
i promised myself when i first started posting here that i wouldn't get into the name calling game.
so i apologize to auspice & eddie.
gambinoshark,
your 100% correct.
and btw, princess auspice my rabbi wouldn't like me to be a member of the christian right.
you both can call me a conservative if you like, it really is just a name. but because i think kerry is the weaker of the two candidates running for president makes me a conservative that is fine.
but i do believe in stem cell research, a woman's right to choose, & that gays, as long as they contribute to society, should have a right for some kind of union with one another makes me a conservative, so be it.
so i apologize to auspice & eddie.
gambinoshark,
your 100% correct.
and btw, princess auspice my rabbi wouldn't like me to be a member of the christian right.
you both can call me a conservative if you like, it really is just a name. but because i think kerry is the weaker of the two candidates running for president makes me a conservative that is fine.
but i do believe in stem cell research, a woman's right to choose, & that gays, as long as they contribute to society, should have a right for some kind of union with one another makes me a conservative, so be it.
Now thats the AR I know and love. You must of lit up a bowl and came to your senses. I don't like the name calling game either. Apology accepted you big dummy. Actually, I lied about Barcelona's. It was good and the eye candy was better.
For stem cell research (Bush cut $), not abortion on demand (Bush position), for gay unions but didn't like your added proviso as what do you mean as long as they contribute to society.
Eddie
For stem cell research (Bush cut $), not abortion on demand (Bush position), for gay unions but didn't like your added proviso as what do you mean as long as they contribute to society.
Eddie
not sure where my political affiliation lies, hopefully with the best candidate, no matter what the party, but it just seems to me that the majority of people voting/supporting kerry, are actually voting for anyone other than bush. it is a sad day when you are voting for someone to spite the other candidate not because you believe in his/her beliefs. this trend has to alarm the bush supporters just a little bit. i for one feel that bush is a horrible pres., but it is hard to support kerry, i guess it comes down to the lesser of two evils and that seems to be kerry.
by the way i think that clinton will do whatever it takes for kerry to lose, so wifey has clear path in 2008....
eddie,
i probably agree with the democratic platform more than the republican platform.
but i believe this war vs. muslim extremists is so important that the other issues have to take a backseat, for now.and i also think the dems have no clue about fighting the terrorists.
if a gay person works, pays taxes, & contributes to the economy,they have the same rights as straight people.
when i first graduated from college, i worked for various nyc agencies in determining if people were eligible for welfare. there were many free loaders trying to & in some cases succeeding in getting on welfare that i found it unacceptable ( of course i'm not talking about people too sick to work).
as of now i'm not sure if these free loaders, & am sure there are much more freeloaders than in my day working for these agencies, whether gay or not deserve any considerations because imo they don't contribute to society.
eddie, i'm glad that we are still friends.
i probably agree with the democratic platform more than the republican platform.
but i believe this war vs. muslim extremists is so important that the other issues have to take a backseat, for now.and i also think the dems have no clue about fighting the terrorists.
if a gay person works, pays taxes, & contributes to the economy,they have the same rights as straight people.
when i first graduated from college, i worked for various nyc agencies in determining if people were eligible for welfare. there were many free loaders trying to & in some cases succeeding in getting on welfare that i found it unacceptable ( of course i'm not talking about people too sick to work).
as of now i'm not sure if these free loaders, & am sure there are much more freeloaders than in my day working for these agencies, whether gay or not deserve any considerations because imo they don't contribute to society.
eddie, i'm glad that we are still friends.
AR:
I understand that for many this is a one or two issue election. As a former Catholic, many of my brothers and sisters (by the way, we Catholics are the only ones allowed in heaven) vote only for the pro-life candidate. All other issues do not matter.
For you, apparently, the terrorists issue is of utmost importance and the issue that will cause you to vote republican. Let me suggest this however, granted Kerry is an unknown on terrorists and Bush is a known, but has he really been more of a deterent to terrorists?
Again, you might argue that the Iraq war has, despite Bush protestations to the contrary, deflected attention away from Al Quida and similarly situated groups and is now directed at this war which was in the planning stages before 9-11. I do think the war in Iraq could not have been better for Bin Laden.
Another point concerning terrorists, in a free society you can take all the precautions you want to prevent an attack yet, if some yattahey straps some explosives to his person, car, etc., there is not a whole hell of alot you can do about it.
That night at Barcelona's, some whack could have walked into the outside area and killed a couple of hundred people. It is just a risk we will have to live with like the Israeli's have done for decades. You can put all sorts of legislation forward, give it nifty names like the Patriot Act and you are not going to stop terrorism.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to understand what motivates these people to fly planes into buildings. I believe the Bush cowboy tactic of shoot-em-up will only in the end, create more terrorists and further give them more reason to hate the good old USA.
Like your earlier post where you jumped on Auspice and I, and like my earlier problems with Dogs and Loophole, sometimes are emotions get the best of us and we later can look at things more rationally. My problem is that I think this administration is operating on various agendas and there solution to the terrorists problem will only aggravate it.
Eddie
I understand that for many this is a one or two issue election. As a former Catholic, many of my brothers and sisters (by the way, we Catholics are the only ones allowed in heaven) vote only for the pro-life candidate. All other issues do not matter.
For you, apparently, the terrorists issue is of utmost importance and the issue that will cause you to vote republican. Let me suggest this however, granted Kerry is an unknown on terrorists and Bush is a known, but has he really been more of a deterent to terrorists?
Again, you might argue that the Iraq war has, despite Bush protestations to the contrary, deflected attention away from Al Quida and similarly situated groups and is now directed at this war which was in the planning stages before 9-11. I do think the war in Iraq could not have been better for Bin Laden.
Another point concerning terrorists, in a free society you can take all the precautions you want to prevent an attack yet, if some yattahey straps some explosives to his person, car, etc., there is not a whole hell of alot you can do about it.
That night at Barcelona's, some whack could have walked into the outside area and killed a couple of hundred people. It is just a risk we will have to live with like the Israeli's have done for decades. You can put all sorts of legislation forward, give it nifty names like the Patriot Act and you are not going to stop terrorism.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, we need to understand what motivates these people to fly planes into buildings. I believe the Bush cowboy tactic of shoot-em-up will only in the end, create more terrorists and further give them more reason to hate the good old USA.
Like your earlier post where you jumped on Auspice and I, and like my earlier problems with Dogs and Loophole, sometimes are emotions get the best of us and we later can look at things more rationally. My problem is that I think this administration is operating on various agendas and there solution to the terrorists problem will only aggravate it.
Eddie
Good to see everyone calming down some. We have some old timers at this site that been helping each other for long time. It's better then pissing each other off. We just can't let some of these stop in and go folks get everyone ticked. We have many times discussed tough issues and never got to calling each other names. I believe we can continue that. And I agree with many. Good that FB is back.
eddie,
very good post.
all i will say is that we differ greatly on this issue.
and good luck in trying to talk to these animals.
djv,
excellent post.
very good post.
all i will say is that we differ greatly on this issue.
and good luck in trying to talk to these animals.
djv,
excellent post.
