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DOGS THAT BARK

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Jabbers you'd have much more success defending Your Base than trying to discredit others.

Be a man--be proud of your associates-and those whose politics you identify with.

Now back on topic boldface lies--which would you like those on the no pork-no lobbyist--campaign funding pledge-war-gitmo-his personal life--pick a topic or maybe lets give you a chance to defend your base--
What pledge/topic has he not lied about?

Lets see currently we got 7 past cia directors asking Gumby not to go back on previous pledge not to re open investigation of our own intelligence agency--


Seven former CIA directors have asked President Obama to use his authority to reverse Attorney General Eric Holder's decision to re-open the criminal investigation into the CIA's post 9/11 interrogations of suspected terrorists.
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Attorney General Eric Holder
(AP)

Over-ruling an attorney general on a criminal investigation would be an extraordinary move, but the former directors contend Holder's investigation will ultimately "help Al Qaeda elude U.S. intelligence and plan future operations."
The letter sent to the president on Friday was signed by CIA directors who served under Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and Bush 43.
The letter warns that the investigation will hinder the CIA's counter-terrorism efforts by discouraging risk-taking by agents now in the field, publicly revealing more information about the CIA's operations, and hindering relations with foreign intelligence agencies.
The former directors contend that Holder's investigation could "help Al Qaeda."

--but he and Holder who pardons terrorist and 10 most want in last minute pardons are pulling the "Puss and Boots" act.

maybe even more ironic we got Gumby - who with help of ivy league spouse couldn't buy a house without the fixer because of their personal debt load-
is on his way to g20 summit to lecture world on finance reform :SIB
 
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Did he finally ok release of birth certificate? if so good for him-bout time.

what about --

Obama/Dunham marriage license
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
Baptism certificate
Kindergarten records
Punahou School records
Occidental College records
Columbia College records
Harvard College records
Illinois Bar Records

What are your thoughts on some who has team of attorneys keeping these under wraps--

Yet boasts of transparency and said-
"I will never hide the truth because it is uncomfortable."

You know- I'm certainly not a birther but do think it odd that a president could/would go to such extremes to hide any/all of his past.
 
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DOGS THAT BARK said:
Gary
Did he finally ok release of birth certificate? if so good for him-bout time.

what about --

Obama/Dunham marriage license
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license
Baptism certificate
Kindergarten records
Punahou School records
Occidental College records
Columbia College records
Harvard College records
Illinois Bar Records

What are your thoughts on some who has team of attorneys keeping these under wraps--

Yet boasts of transparency and said-
"I will never hide the truth because it is uncomfortable."

You know- I'm certainly not a birther but do think it odd that a president could/would go to such extremes to hide any/all of his past.
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I hate to rain on your parade there Dogs... but if you've spent more than 15 seconds of your life pondering our President's citizenship status, you're a Birther.
 
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Trench Fickler said:
I hate to rain on your parade there Dogs... but if you've spent more than 15 seconds of your life pondering our President's citizenship status, you're a Birther.
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Probably would have pondered if not for 2 newspaper articles reporting it--hard forge archives in newspapers--

Is interesting all the money he's spent to keep public from knowing his past--got to be something in a wood pile somewhere he's hiding :)
--matter of time till we find out what.
 
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DOGS THAT BARK said:
Probably would have pondered if not for 2 newspaper articles reporting it--hard forge archives in newspapers--

Is interesting all the money he's spent to keep public from knowing his past--got to be something in a wood pile somewhere he's hiding :)
--matter of time till we find out what.
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Do you think he is a Muslim?
 
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What does that have to do with his citizenship?

His SCREWED up childhood is what's the problem, all of his mothers husbands and moving him around from different countries.

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I didn't ask you. We already know you are a fucking moron.
 
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And you are a CockSucking ASSHOLE, Go FUCK YOURSELF.

TIA.

:kiss:
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I bet he is out beating his girlfriend/sister right now. Good thing for Skul is that his parents had a daughter first. You know after Skul, the doctor made sure to tie that bitches tubes up real tight.
 
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Do you think he is a Muslim?
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I have no idea--he and admin say he's not-
but they also said -

On January 24, 2007, the Obama campaign released a statement, saying, "To be clear, Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised a Muslim, and is a committed christain who attends the United church of Christ in Chicago.

We have found out 2 facts since

--what his church in Chicago was all about

--and he lied through his teeth about the rest-

In his autobiography, "Dreams From My Father," Obama mentions studying the Quran.

He was enrolled in two Jakarta schools as a Muslim. His teacher Tine Hahiyary said that she remembered that he had studied "mengaji" (recitation of the Quran)."

--and after these facts came to light he changed his tune to I have never been " a practicing muslim"

So my opinion is he was brought up in muslim faith--and converted to gospel according to his self proclaimed uncle/mentor/reverend Wright.

any other questions
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You lie? No. Barack Obama doesn't lie. He's too subtle for that. He... well, you judge.
Herewith three examples within a single speech -- the now-
famous Obama-Wilson "you lie" address to Congress on health care -- of Obama's relationship with truth.
(1) "I will not sign (a plan)," he solemnly pledged, "if it adds one dime to the deficit, now or in the future. Period."

Wonderful. The president seems serious, veto-ready, deter-
mined to hold the line. Until, notes Harvard economist Greg Mankiw, you get to Obama's very next sentence: "And to prove that I'm serious, there will be a provision in this plan that requires us to come forward with more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize."
This apparent strengthening of the pledge brilliantly and deceptively undermines it. What Obama suggests is that his plan will require mandatory spending cuts if the current rosy projections prove false. But there's absolute-
ly nothing automatic about such cuts. Every Congress is sovereign. Nothing enacted today will force a future Congress or a future president to make any cuts in any spending, mandatory or not.
Just look at the supposedly automatic Medicare cuts contained in the Sustainable Growth Rate formula enacted to constrain out-of-control Medicare spending. Every year since 2003, Congress has waived the cuts.
Mankiw puts the Obama bait-and-switch in plain language. "Translation: I promise to fix the problem. And if I do not fix the problem now, I will fix it later, or some future president will, after I am long gone. I promise he will. Absolutely, positively, I am committed to that future president fixing the problem. You can count on it. Would I lie to you?"
(2) And then there's the famous contretemps about health insurance for illegal immigrants. Obama said they would not be insured. Well, all four committee-passed bills in Congress allow illegal immigrants to take part in the proposed Health Insurance Exchange.
But more importantly, the problem is that laws are not self-enforcing. If they were, we'd have no illegal immigrants because, as I understand it, it's illegal to enter the United States illegally. We have laws against burglary, too. But we also provide for cops and jails on the assumption that most burglars don't voluntarily turn themselves in.
When Republicans proposed requiring proof of citizenship, the Democrats twice voted that down in committee. Indeed, after Rep. Joe Wilson's "You lie!" shout-out, the Senate Finance Committee revisited the language of its bill to prevent illegal immigrants from getting any federal benefits. Why would the Finance Committee fix a non-
existent problem?
(3) Obama said he would largely solve the insoluble cost problem of Obamacare by eliminating "hundreds of billions of dollars in waste and fraud" from Medicare.
That's not a lie. That's not even deception. That's just an insult to our intelligence. Waste, fraud and abuse -- Meg Greenfield once called this phrase "the dread big three" -- as the all-purpose piggy bank for budget savings has been a joke since Jimmy Carter first used it in 1977.
Moreover, if half a trillion is waiting to be squeezed painlessly out of Medicare, why wait for health care reform? If, as Obama repeatedly insists, Medicare over-
spending is breaking the budget, why hasn't he gotten started on the painless billions in "waste and fraud" savings?
Obama doesn't lie. He merely elides, gliding from one dubious assertion to another. This has been the story throughout his whole health care crusade. Its original premise was that our current financial crisis was rooted in neglect of three things -- energy, education and health care. That transparent attempt to exploit Emanuel's Law -- a crisis is a terrible thing to waste -- failed for health care because no one is stupid enough to believe that the 2008 financial collapse was caused by a lack of universal health care.
So on to the next gambit: selling health care reform as a cure for the deficit. When that was exploded by the Congressional Budget Office's demonstration of staggering Obamacare deficits, Obama tried a new tack: selling his plan as revenue-neutral insurance reform -- until the revenue neutrality is exposed as phony future cuts and chimerical waste and fraud.
Obama doesn't lie. He implies, he misdirects, he misleads -- so fluidly and incessantly that he risks transmuting eloquence into mere slickness.
Slickness wasn't fatal to "Slick Willie" Clinton because he possessed a winning, near irresistible charm. Obama's persona is more cool, distant, imperial. The charming scoundrel can get away with endless deception; the righteous redeemer cannot.
 
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