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Wise and Wiser · Mar 29, 2009

you play dogs, and/or fade the consensus' action, and you claim to have made a profit on this tournament. The public has made a killing on straight wagers. The only big upset was Cleveland State knocking off Wake. The chalk has dominated this tournament, and even public dogs (Nova, Western Kentucky) have been money. Connecticut and North Carolina, two of the most public teams in the sport, have combined to go 7-0 ATS! I'm sure Vegas won't admit it got hammered, but if you believe that, you've got your head buried in the sand like an ostrich. I'm sure a lot of people will be quitting their day jobs to head for "Sin City" after this tournament.

Macgruder23 · Mar 29, 2009

I play dogs and NCAA has absolutely killed the $$ I made in NIT/CBI/CIT. I am very good friends with a bookie and he said he has been ruined by this tourney. He says his $50 or $100 players are betting $300-$500 game, and his bigger players he has to layoff cuz of the amounts of $$ they are betting..I helped him out taking calls yesterday and I wrote $ 350 worth of bets on Mizzou and $750 on Pitt .. Uconn and Villanova were each over 8k --thats disgusting:shrug:

Wise and Wiser · Mar 29, 2009

Macgruder,

Think about how much money the tourists made during the first round. The tourists predominantly bet favorites and overs. Opening weekend is the biggest weekend of the tournament. Vegas will never get that money back. I'm sure people left with enough money to get on a flight and return to Vegas for the Sweet 16.

LDB · Mar 29, 2009

THIS TOURNAMENT HAD BEEN TOUGH!

bleedingpurple · Mar 29, 2009

My buddy has a guy that bets 11 - 22 dollars a game. He eats them instead of calling it in. My buddy is pist because this guy has won 500 bucks betting that little amount. :shrug:

LDB · Mar 29, 2009

bleedingpurple said:
My buddy has a guy that bets 11 - 22 dollars a game. He eats them instead of calling it in. My buddy is pist because this guy has won 500 bucks betting that little amount. :shrug:

I WOULD TAKE A GUESS THAT IF HE WOULD TO BET LARGE AMOUNTS, HED PROBABLY LOSE:mj07:

Wise and Wiser · Mar 29, 2009

LDB said:
I WOULD TAKE A GUESS THAT IF HE WOULD TO BET LARGE AMOUNTS, HED PROBABLY LOSE:mj07:

No, if he's a chalk player, then BP's buddy would be calling them in.

bryanz · Mar 29, 2009

LDB said:
I WOULD TAKE A GUESS THAT IF HE WOULD TO BET LARGE AMOUNTS, HED PROBABLY LOSE:mj07:

who's the little guy have today ?

LDB · Mar 29, 2009

bryanz said:
who's the little guy have today ?

AND THE LITTLE GUY IS?

bryanz · Mar 29, 2009

bleedingpurple said:
My buddy has a guy that bets 11 - 22 dollars a game. He eats them instead of calling it in. My buddy is pist because this guy has won 500 bucks betting that little amount. :shrug:

whos the little guy have today ?

Old School · Mar 29, 2009

here are round by round results based on closing line at scoresandodds.com.

TOURNEY RESULTS..
CLOSING LINES

ROUND 1 COMPLETE

FAVS..12

DOGS..19

PUSH..1

OVERS..17

UNDERS..15

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TOURNEY RESULTS..
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complete

THROUGH 48 GAMES
rd 1[32 games]+rd 2[16 games]

FAVS..23

DOGS..24

PUSH..1

OVERS..29

UNDERS..19
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TOURNEY RESULTS..
CLOSING LINES

THROUGH 56 GAMES

32+16+8

FAVS..28

DOGS..27

PUSH..1

OVERS..34

UNDERS..22

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TOURNEY RESULTS..
CLOSING LINES

32+16+8+2

THROUGH 58 GAMES

FAVS..29

DOGS..28

PUSH..1

OVERS..36

UNDERS..22

__________________

LDB · Mar 29, 2009

THANKS FOR THE #'S OLD SCHOOL

Old School · Mar 29, 2009

see my thread for day..night breakdown..

bleedingpurple · Mar 29, 2009

No clue.. He won't call him with his bets until game time.

jr11 · Mar 29, 2009

Amen, this has been a blood bath. What you going to do? Louisville played a game the other day that would have beaten anyone, 14 3's 29 assists and fresh is everyone's minds. I mean come on, 6.5 point favorite, who isn't going to take that? I would love to play MSU but being down and it's hard to chase with this.

Good luck to everyone today. Small plays for me if anything. Pay my dues and move on.

jr11

Wise and Wiser · Mar 29, 2009

Old School said:
see my thread for day..night breakdown..

How many of those dogs won straight up?

Old School · Mar 29, 2009

will let ya know wise

will take me a few minutes..

Wise and Wiser · Mar 29, 2009

Old School said:
will let ya know wise

will take me a few minutes..

Shouldn't take long! Thanks bro.

bej0101 · Mar 29, 2009

as a primary chalk player i am having a great tourney..if the ref's don't get involved chalk wins the rest of the way too..by the way vegas sportsbooks only account for about 10% of their total handle, so win or lose they don't need to recover..

Old School · Mar 29, 2009

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</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">7:10 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">709 minnesota u</TD><TD>126.5 </TD><TD>126.5 / 127 </TD><TD>126.5 </TD><TD>+165 </TD><TD class="left last ">62 Over 126.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">710 texas</TD><TD>-4.5 +01 </TD><TD>-4 +01 / -3.5 / -4 </TD><TD>-4.5 </TD><TD>-190 </TD><TD class="left last ">76 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">2:50 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">711 radford</TD><TD>164 </TD><TD>162 / 161 / 161.5 </TD><TD>162 </TD><TD>+8000 </TD><TD class="left last ">58 Under 162 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">712 unc</TD><TD>-27 -05 </TD><TD>-25 / -24.5 / -25 </TD><TD>-25.5 </TD><TD>-12000 </TD><TD class="left last ">101 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="last left" colSpan=7>No Carolina-G-Lawson-Doubtful </TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">12:20 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">713 butler</TD><TD>127.5 </TD><TD>127.5 / 127 </TD><TD>128 </TD><TD>+110 </TD><TD class="left last ">71 Over 128 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">714 lsu</TD><TD>-3 -05 </TD><TD>-2.5 -05 / -2.5 / -2 </TD><TD>-1.5 </TD><TD>-130 </TD><TD class="left last ">75 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">3:00 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">715 tennessee chat</TD><TD>145 </TD><TD>145.5 / 147 / 147.5 </TD><TD>148 </TD><TD>+2100 </TD><TD class="left last ">47 Over 148 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">716 connecticut</TD><TD>-23 +01 </TD><TD>-20.5 / -19.5 / -20 </TD><TD>-20.5 </TD><TD>-3500 </TD><TD class="left last ">103 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="last left" colSpan=7>NCAA - Opening Round (CBS)Wachovia Center - Philadelphia, PAConnecticut-HC-Calhoun-Will not coach today''s game </TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">12:30 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">717 texas a&m</TD><TD>139.5 </TD><TD>140 / 139.5 / 140 </TD><TD>140.5 </TD><TD>+130 </TD><TD class="left last ">79 Over 140.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">718 byu</TD><TD>-4.5 -05 </TD><TD>-2.5 / -3 / -2.5 </TD><TD>-3 </TD><TD>-150 </TD><TD class="left last ">66 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">7:20 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">719 american</TD><TD>129 </TD><TD>128 / 127.5 / 128 </TD><TD>128.5 </TD><TD></TD><TD class="left last ">67 Over 128.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">720 villanova</TD><TD>-18 -05 </TD><TD>-16.5 / -16 / -15.5 </TD><TD>-15 </TD><TD></TD><TD class="left last ">80 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">9:50 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">721 va commonwealth</TD><TD>135.5 </TD><TD>135.5 / 136 </TD><TD>136.5 </TD><TD>+310 </TD><TD class="left last ">64 Under 136.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">722 ucla</TD><TD>-9 +01 </TD><TD>-8 / -8.5 / -8 </TD><TD>-8.5 </TD><TD>-380 </TD><TD class="left last ">65 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">12:25 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">723 cs northridge</TD><TD>130.5 </TD><TD>131.5 / 132 / 131.5 </TD><TD>132 </TD><TD>+3100 </TD><TD class="left last ">70 Over 132 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">724 memphis u</TD><TD>-18.5 -05 </TD><TD>-20 / -20.5 / -20 </TD><TD>-19.5 </TD><TD>-5000 </TD><TD class="left last ">81 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="last left" colSpan=7>NCAA - Opening Round (CBS)Sprint Center - Kansas City, MO </TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">2:55 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">725 maryland</TD><TD>140.5 </TD><TD>141 / 141.5 / 142 </TD><TD>142.5 </TD><TD>+110 </TD><TD class="left last ">84 Over 142.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">726 california</TD><TD>-3 -05 </TD><TD>-1.5 / -2 / -1.5 </TD><TD>-1 </TD><TD>-130 </TD><TD class="left last ">71 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">9:40 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">727 morgan state</TD><TD>135.5 </TD><TD>135.5 / 135 / 134.5 </TD><TD>136.5 </TD><TD>+1040 </TD><TD class="left last ">54 Under 136.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">728 oklahoma</TD><TD>-17.5 -05 </TD><TD>-16 / -15.5 / -15 </TD><TD>-15.5 </TD><TD>-1500 </TD><TD class="left last ">82 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">7:10 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">729 michigan</TD><TD>137.5 </TD><TD>137 / 137.5 / 138.5 </TD><TD>139.5 </TD><TD>+170 </TD><TD class="left last ">62 Under 139.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">730 clemson</TD><TD>-6 -05 </TD><TD>-5.5 -03 / -5.5 / -5 </TD><TD>-4.5 </TD><TD>-200 </TD><TD class="left last ">59 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">2:30 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">731 northern iowa</TD><TD>124.5 </TD><TD>124.5 / 124 </TD><TD>124.5 </TD><TD>+330 </TD><TD class="left last ">56 Under 124.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">732 purdue</TD><TD>-8.5 -05 </TD><TD>-8.5 +04 / -8 -05 / -8 </TD><TD>-8.5 </TD><TD>-420 </TD><TD class="left last ">61 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="last left" colSpan=7>NCAA - Opening Round (CBS)Rose Garden - Portland, OR </TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">5:00 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">733 mississippi st</TD><TD>148.5 </TD><TD>148.5 / 149.5 </TD><TD>149 </TD><TD>+210 </TD><TD class="left last ">58 Under 149 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">734 washington u</TD><TD>-4.5 -05 </TD><TD>-5.5 / -6 / -6.5 </TD><TD>-6 </TD><TD>-250 </TD><TD class="left last ">71 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">9:55 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">735 western kentucky</TD><TD>124.5 </TD><TD>124.5 / 123 / 123.5 </TD><TD>124 </TD><TD>+175 </TD><TD class="left last ">76 Over 124 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">736 illinois</TD><TD>-6 -05 </TD><TD>-4.5 / -5 / -5.5 </TD><TD>-5 </TD><TD>-210 </TD><TD class="left last ">72 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="last left" colSpan=7>Illinois-G-Frazier-OUT </TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=last></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR></TBODY><TBODY><TR class=game_time><TD class="first left">7:25 PM EDT</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD></TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">737 akron</TD><TD>132 </TD><TD>132 / 131.5 / 133 </TD><TD>133.5 </TD><TD>+840 </TD><TD class="left last ">64 Over 133.5 </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_team><TD class="first nowrap">738 gonzaga</TD><TD>-13 -05 </TD><TD>-12.5 / -13 / -13.5 </TD><TD>-14 </TD><TD>-1100 </TD><TD class="left last ">77 final </TD><TD class=notescol></TD></TR><TR class=game_toolbar><TD class=first>

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