Liberals and their skewed vision of the world..

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We all know that there are clear differences between the left and the right as there are differences between the Bush adminstration and the former adminstration.

The large difference by far is the governing by principle.. Bush has clearly shown this by the unpopular situation in Irag and many other issues that is required by a leader other than his popularity being judged... Clinton on the other hand governed by what the polls indicated and basically ignored the hands on type management that is needed..There were many opportunities for Clinton to do something about aggression overseas by terrorists..Again,Clinton was more concered about maintaining the economy than involving the US into a global threat that has now consumed much of the free world..All Clinton did was bomb a tent in the desert and a pill factory to show that he was capable of reaction..It has now been documented that the Clinton adminstration had an opportunity to get Bin Laden and didn't..

Liberals are so full of themselves and the 9 who are running have shown that not one of them has really the strong leadership qualities that is required,let alone fight despots around the world..Listen,liberals are the party of appeasement and when you hear from the likes of Kucinich who wants to create another department and call it the department of peace..Geez!! Give me a break, a department of peace..Does he actually think he can sit down with a bunch of terrorists and talk peace,what an idiot..Yeah right, he's got a chance..

Liberals over the years have shown time and time again that they lack the will and fortitude to take the fight to the aggressors..World War 1 and 2 have shown that..Hilter would never have gained so much power if the European left would've acted by removing him sooner,but they just ignored his heated rhetoric as just another politician..President Reagan when he challenged Russia to take down the wall,the liberals in Europe and here in the US were flabbergasted and in a state of fear and just plain typically showing no backbone...Clinton's escapade in Somalia was a complete failure for one reason and only one reason...He ran that fight rather than let the military handle it and coward.. When the going got rough and the polls showed that the people were against that skirmish he bolted...Bin Laden even stated through some paperwork that American forces gathered in Afganistan said that now that Bush is in office we can expect a heavy retaliation and by no means would he be complacent like Clinton..In other words,Bin Laden knew that Clinton had no backbone and Bush was a major obstacle and was the one that could kick his a-s-s.The US. Cole and the embassy bombings proved that... Now don't give me that crap about that we haven't found him or Saddam..It took us 5 years to get Rudolph here in the states for the bombing at the Atlanta Olympics, so that doesn't hold water and those 9 Democrats that use that argument are only looking stupid and foolish.

The removel of Malosovich in Bosnia or Kosovo was right to do,but the liberals never showed any discontempt with Clinton like they do with Bush..That problem wasn't an American threat by any stretch and should've been handled by the Europeans,but those appeasers don't even have the stomach to mow their own backyards.One other point,Clinton didn't go to the UN because he knew that that lapdog outfit would never have given the approval so he went through NATO..Liberals keep harping about that Bush doesn't have an exit strategy,but Clinton said that the Americans would be out of Bosina by Christmas time and this was 10 years ago..General Clark,what the heck is he talking about..You can't make heads or tails from anything he states and is a complete misguided rambler..This guy comes on the campaign trial with rumors and hyperboles.Yeah another great potential leader..He almost started WWIII with the Russians when he was over there... Everything he says comes from cocktail parties and madeup crap from his own mind..

Democrats are losing on every front...Republicans control most governships are for the first time in 40 years changing the way medicare is run,which has always been a promising but never delivered campaign slogan by Democrats..The energy bill is going to pass for the first time in years for a major shift towards more friendly alternatives..Thank you Massachusetts for your moral clarity and showing us that liberal moral judgement will always be your dreaded hallmark and on that note alone you will become the party that was..Incidentally,I do agree with civil unions but marriage is out..Yes Democrats are extremely concerned and as with the 9 contenders for Bush's job,well good luck..Bush will get reelected and if the liberals know what is good for them they will pull that lever...Security is the main reason why Bush should stay,because terrorists would love nothing better than have a liberal to deal with..Remember when the Democrats were bashing Bush on his tax cut,well we clearly see what that is doing for the economy,which they also can't use anymore..


No folks,liberals lack the moral clarity and vision and if you want this country to move towards socialism and embark on a course of giving terrorists a seat at the table than move to France.

It's a great time in life to be a conservative and the trend is clearly becoming positive..The country and the world is on the right track and Bush did more in his first term than Clinton did in 8 years..Bush will go down in history as one of the top 5 presidents in this century if not of all time and that was Clinton's hope to do the same,but only to have gone down in shame because of the lust he had for your daughter,his only legacy..


Have a good day
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Re: Liberals and their skewed vision of the world..

Equity Trader said:
Bush will go down in history as one of the top 5 presidents in this century if not of all time

This is your brain on drugs.
 

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Now I know how the Romans felt about 470 AD with the barbarians outside the gates of Rome. Opps, wait a minute, their inside the gates and thriving in DC.

Eddie
 

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All Clinton did was bomb a tent in the desert and a pill factory to show that he was capable of reaction..It has now been documented that the Clinton adminstration had an opportunity to get Bin Laden and didn't..





Last time I checked Bush was having even less success with Bin laden. He gave up on him and went for Iraq instead. Talk about Liberals having a skewed view.
 

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About every two months or so, this guy comes out with some long-winded blob of ridiculous republican propaganda, and then disappears again. It's like he wakes up in the middle of the night with the shakes, and decides he's gonna set them damn liberals at madjacks straight!!!
 

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LMAO, Bfinste and hoops.

I actually met this cat one time. Real nice guy and we got along great because we agreed not to talk politics. He makes Joe Scarborough look downright socialist.
 

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bjfinste said:
About every two months or so, this guy comes out with some long-winded blob of ridiculous republican propaganda, and then disappears again. It's like he wakes up in the middle of the night with the shakes, and decides he's gonna set them damn liberals at madjacks straight!!!
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bjf


:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie

LMAO ! that was a good one.


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i'm sorry to disagree with the majority who have posted so far in this thread, but equity trader hit the nail right on the head. imo. eveything that equity trader said is correct.

i am not a republican, in fact i have voted mostly democratic, & was once a card carrying member of the liberal way of thinking, but the liberals, & most of the democrats have no clue about dealing with the threat of terrorism.

we, as a country cannot sit back & wait for the terrorists to attack our country. we must take the fight to these thugs.

and equity trader is correct, imo, bush did a couragious thing by going into iraq. he could have sat back, made sure our borders were safe & have his administration concentrate on other issues. but instead he has risked his presidency on this war.

i don't know if bush, at this point should be considered a great president, but imo he is a lot stronger president than his father & clinton were.

for all of those who don't like bush, what don't you like about him ?

and which of the democratic candidates would you prefer over bush ?

there are a few democrats that i could see as our president, but none of the ones currently running. and certainly not hilliary.
 

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I just think it's amazing that folks fall for that demo vs repub garbage at the higher levels of govt. Sure the country may sway a little more left or a little more right under diff administrations, but the overall agenda remains the same.
At the higher levels of govt ...THEY ALL WORK FOR THE SAME FOLKS....and it ain't us. It's just amazing that in this day and age folks still fall for the old..."GOOD COP BAD COP" ploy.
Of course these same folks also believe that the FEDERAL RESERVE is part of the federal govt.
Bottom line...BIG MONEY calls the shots, and we (the United States) are their "strongarm" or worlds policemen.
TT
 

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AR...and I used to like you. You say the Bushman risked his presidency on this war (or as I prefer to call it, a premptive strike based upon a perceived threat). Maybe so, (actually I hope so). However, I think he assured himself and his issue of quite a comfortable existence after he leaves office.

Yeah I know he had the big bucks going in, but he sure has made a lot of Haliburton shareholders happy as I would be in Shania Twains underwear. I still disagree with the premise that this war was necessary to eradicate or curb terrorism. Maybe so in the short term. But I believe we (sic) Bush and his crew have worsened the situation in the long term.

Do you think that our actions in Iraq will lessen the likelihood of another 9-11? I respectfully disagree. Muslim fanatics (or for that matter Christian fanatics) will find ways to attack this country here and abroad. Its the price we pay for living in a free society (although not so free anymore).

Stick to restaurant critiques in the Scottsdale area my friend, and leave politics to the informed and intellectually enlightened, like myself and Stevie D. Got to go, All Things Considered is on NPR.

Peace out,
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OH FAWKIN YEAH HASKELL! I HAPPEN TO AGREE W/ET & AR182. AND LET ME TELL YOU ANOTHER THING.....................................
.........................err, ah, hmmm DAMN! *thought I could come up w/something good*

Think I coulda handed it to you regarding your first post.

well, i , hmmmm *clears throat* - geee. Oh Yeah- Clinton lied about a Blow Job. Take that!
 

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unfortunately

unfortunately

not so enlightened as to not respond respectfully to a post that did nothing more than take an opposing point of view....

no need for the personal stuff,ed....you make your points plenty well enough to leave the ad hominem stuff on the side....

"you used to like ar1"?..........and what?....you don`t now because he doesn`t agree on a particular issue?....i`m sure you were kidding....

my 2 cents....i fall somewhere in the middle of all this....as i think many do......certainly not a black and white issue....

in hindsight,i have to agree that going into iraq without a clear idea of how to approach the aftermath has turned out to be a faux pas of monumental proportions.....and our boys are dying.....

if we could have received some support from the french,german,russian troika i think that saddam might have been more receptive to abdicating.....but,that wasn`t happening under any circumstances...

how do you fight terrorism successfully?.....does anybody know how to fight an ethereal,fanatical enemy with no conscience?...i certainly don`t....and it appears that the rest of the world doesn`t care.....

eddie...i wasn`t taking a shot at you...ar1 is one of the most respectful guys on the forum and i`ve never heard him speak negatively of anyone on this board.....

i have to admit that equity trader was just begging to get spanked with that thread header...:nono:

g.l.
 
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gw,

thanks for watching my back. i greatly appreciate it. i'm sure eddie was just joshing.

eddie,

my #1 issue used to be a woman's right for choice. but after 9/11, my #1 issue is the war against these thugs. and right now i feel that bush & his crew gives us the best chance to succeed, & it's not even close.

btw, it's getting harder & harder to keep up with all of the new restaurants here because it seems that one or two are opening each week. next time you come into town, i expect you to get in touch with me, whether it's with your friends or mrs. eddie.
 

gardenweasel

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apologies to eddie

apologies to eddie

and ar1....i should have realized this was b.s. between friends.....

my bad...n.o.m.d.b.. ..:banghead:......
 

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What exactly was the unpopular decision made. If my memory serves me correct he had duped the vast majority of Americans into believing that Saddam had WMD and was on his way to nuclear and chemical weapons too. What was this unpopular decision he so bravely made?:shrug:
 
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