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djv

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You guys no dame well he miss spoke. And Doc you consevative watch dog. You of all people bitchen about the world of free enterprise. These guys helped a lot of folks here. Time to move on and let it be.
 

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saint either thunder is the richest man in the world or my family is real poor.but anyone associated with raymond has no credibility in my book.what happened to raymonds ouwtlaw sports it went down the tubes losing crazy units so he needed a new venture.what a great team of cappers.lol
 

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hey i am just saying the whole industry is a scam....records are tainted, "monitors" are tainted, etc. etc....who do you trust? everyone says you can trust them....

meanwhile, books continue to make money.....

only people who make $$ in this industry are books and "services"

no one will ever get rich on buying picks...

that is the truth and i dont mind putting it out there for people

follow the $$ trail
 

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this might be the most ridiculous thread ive ever seen on madjacks. ive never seen a bigger group or crybabies and whiners. holy shit. ive also never seen soooo many people worrying about what other people bet on. are you making money by what other people bet? worry about yourselves. bet on your own, buy picks, give picks, who cares? whatever method you choose to do, which you think will favor you the most in making $ in the end should not have to be commented on (mostly in negative ways) by 500000 cappers on this site. its totally childish and pretty damn gay.

i am a member at thunders site, and i will tell you what, theres no bitching and crying over there like there is here. straight up capping, win or lose.


all you guys need to grow up a little, 30 yr olds in here acting like 5. :shrug:
 

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I guess i'm going against what i'm going to say but..........

I would love to see absolutely no replys to these type of announcements in the future.
 

dr. freeze

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get a clue Jalen most people on here want to help other people and give sound advice all the while picking up a tip here and there and talking sports

well one thing we talkabout HAPPENS to be handicapping...and SERVICES

and if YOU can't handle the fact that you are throwing your money away and will inevitably lose but think you are buying friends or attention or whatever, than keep on keeping on....

but it is absolutely MORONIC to buy a service especially when you have so many posting their picks for free!!!!

i guess if you step back and study the human psyche you can find reasons for buying picks and most reasons i can think of have to do with emotional instability and insecurity...maybe this offers you a security blanket i don't know...but from an action standpoint -- where you get a higher high from winning and losing on a decision YOU made -- it is stupid to buy picks.

from a financial standpoint -- well a book will be HAPPY to take your $$ if you are buying picks....if you doubt this, than why do BOOKS advertise at tout's sites? LMAO

no one is crying except you and your other naive buddies who buy picks and succumb to a salesmen like grandma succumbs to salesmen...then when people actually try to offer SOUND advice you whine and scream because you got your blanket taken away


:cry: :cry: :eek:wned:

here is your future if you dont wisen up and listen :flush:
 

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Trampled Underfoot said:
I guess i'm going against what i'm going to say but..........

I would love to see absolutely no replys to these type of announcements in the future.

these are actually the most interesting threads that get posted on the board....they display the exact reasons why books and services make $$ despite chronic losing

there seems to be an endless supply of idiots
 

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I do agree freeze......but think how great it would be to come in here and announce your new service with not one damn response. Lets see if we can all resist the next one.
 

Jalen45

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freeeze- you get a clue, please quote me in my post where i mentioned anything about buying picks. when you find it, post your reply, until then, read the post throughly, maybe even read it twice. then get back to me.

making assumptions pissed me off too, you have over 4000 posts in madjack, i hope all 4000 wasnt as dumb as your last 2.
 

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dr. freeze said:
there seems to be an endless supply of idiots [/B]

I agree it almost makes me want to start a service. I know I am more qualified than one certain person at least I can spell all the team names correctly. LOL Well maybe I'm not more qualified since I dont have any lock and load, outlaw, or game of the century plays.
 

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"I make more in one day than most Doctors make in one year"...
:142smilie ROTFLMAO.....and I thought Anthony and Worm were
full of shit.....:rolleyes:
 

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As to the financial state of Thunder I do not now exactly his earnings (don't care either)..but I do know that he has a "legit" business in wholesaling electronics in Minnesota, actually 15 minutes from where I just moved in MN. So he has a successful business on the side, that brings in income and I don't think his comments above were talking about his "Selections Service" income.

Too bad we haven't had lunch yet, but we will soon Thunder.

You all feel what you want about paid handicapper's but I think everyone has an opinion, and sharing it pro or con isn't going to make a difference! All is does is piss some people off, cause some infighting, and on and on.

So let's see who is the bigger person, and just end the debate that goes on and on every other week!

TSI
 

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Damn I wasnt gonna get involved but.......

Damn I wasnt gonna get involved but.......

These guys like Fletcher and Raymond do this and study the line all day.....I know Fletcher (It's his job) so in saying its his job and which he does it damn well and if your willing to pay for it and need a winner you do it.....is he always right...well let me go on to say DR. FREEZE 300,000 surgerys happen every year that are not required and should not have happened but do proceed....So is Fletcher always right NO...but neither are Surgeons....Would you perform a surgery for free???????? HELL NO...So why should Fletcher give his plays away for free if it is his job????? You say its a scam????? Dont get me going about the medical field and how surgeons, let alone the medical field is a scam......And if the medical field is such a scam...why are you involved in such a racket????Why, cause it pays your bills....but you say its not a scam....well I say if people are willing to put their trust into hard work done by people who study the field (LINES) then why not give them the benefit of the doubt......thats all we do with surgeons is give them the benefit of the doubt...RIGHT? So when you are willing to give your services for FREE Dr. FREEZE...dont knock others for charging for things they believe in and study for....UR acting like a freaking LIBERAL
 

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i got a friend that went pay -- and he makes at least 50-60 times more off his pay service then he would just betting the games with his own money. Why do people say "if your so good, why go pay when you can make money betting your own games" ???? Do ppl realize how much ppl make running these services? Its a shitload more then what you make betting on games for a year - - a shitload more.

Thank you for making sense. I'm so sick of the ridiculous question as to why would someone sell if the picks were that good. Hello, it is called maximizing profit fools.

If you feel this way about services then do you feel the same way about someone who has a hot stock tip? Why would he keep it to himself? Somethings in this world are capable of being used for yourself to make good money & have the option to share it & maximize your money even more. How many would seriously pass that up? The same people who ask this stupid question are usually the same ones who are jealous.
 

dr. freeze

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gambling is a zero sum game

business is not

different scenarios

all i am saying is it is stupid to buy picks....and you have to have something missing upstairs to do so

its certainly not stupid to sell them....although you have to realize that you are entering a field where the honesty and forthrightness is at a low for any industry being exceeded only by trial lawyers....and if you want to play that game, then go ahead and do so but lots of people have little respect for it and people must realize that
 
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Freeze, if it's so stupid why are so many people doing it? Skeeter well said, the medical & health Insurance community are the biggest scams in this country, yes just like the legal system.


JMO
 

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Most services; would say about 90% are nothing but scams, and ripoffs. Most only make money for the people running the service. The loser is the player that signs up for them.

Are a few exceptions, but one has to be carefull.

by the way is their a wager on how many people announce they will open a service in a year at Madjacks :

over 8, is my guess.

thanks
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