Raymond - Roger - Thunder - Steel City STATS since going pay !

fletcher

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Just drop the shit , it is the same stuff every other week, so they are off to a slow start maybe maybe not. But it takes more then a few months to get going if you had a bad run come back in a year and then look. If you not a client why worry anyway. They are not forcing anything down your throat. Just go about your own business and post some useful game info not personal attacks.
 

THUNDER

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First off all you encouraging,positive people i would like to say some people have nothing better to do.It always seems to be the same people. THIS REPLY WAS APPROVED BY JACK. At the sight you are refering to the stats page is interfaced with a very large monitoring sight with over 160 services. The software programing is skewed and has not been working properly. The web guy who designed the sight is also the gentlemen who owns this monitoring sight. we are the first customer he has ever had that asked to have the sight intergrated-services like to monitor themselves on there own sight and numbers go there way compared to a monitoring. Obviously we did not do this because of the stats above shown. I have had way better things to do than ride the web guy to get the stat software working properly.But Jack gave me permision to cut and past with up to date records in each capped sport for all 4 of us and how we rank. Each capper on each ranking and units not our percent because his monitoring only goes upto 5 not 7. if one adds all 4 of us off of the mon service.One will figure out we atre up 93 units the last 30 days. I can assure you none of these guys are members and if someone has been fading they would be broke. Our stats page is inaccurate but the monitoring site is not. I have done nothing to hurt anybody and will stay away from acting like a child. Those emails you say are annoying have a take off list which electronically deletes a address off the server. So please use it. HERE ARE THE ACCURATE NUMBERS>

National Football League Top Handicappers
Rank User Name Total Units
1 SweetnessNFL 52.00
2 Uncle Lous Sports 46.65
3 T-Logic Sports 31.10
4 NISSports 17.75
5 steelcity 17.45
6 simplman 16.50
7 VSSWinsLateSteam 15.00
8 Larry Etheridge 14.85
9 PaulysPicks.com 12.90
10 sailawaysports 11.85
11 Ben 11.60
12 Erec Templer 10.05
13 *********-LT_Profits 3.00
14 raymond 2.90
15 bosspicks 2.75
16 USA Sports Consulting 1.70
17 Thunder 1.55
18 Impact Sports Handicapping 1.20
19 SG 0.95
20 InternetSportsExplorers 0.65
21 Zeeman-TheSportsInfo.com -0.25
22 mike d -0.30
23 InsiderEdgeSports -0.50
24 Roger - -1.00
25 abledsoe -1.00
26 PremiumPlaysClub -1.50
27 mike -2.10
28 caden315 -3.30
29 RedZone -3.60
30 The Director -4.30
31 owlthe3rd -4.65
32 SuperSystemSports -5.00
33 PIRHANA -6.10
34 Handicapping-Solutions -6.55
35 ibuystock -8.15
36 Dawg2 -8.25
37 STEELERFAN -8.25
38 superdog -10.70
39 Underdogsportspix -11.25
40 allstarcappers -11.55



National Basketball Association Top Handicappers
Rank User Name Total Units
1 Tony Diamond 60.50
2 HoopsieNBA 52.25
3 LateSteamPipeline 37.00
4 Roger 29.00
5 Uncle Lous Sports 23.50
6 Erec Templer 16.10
7 OUCharles 13.50
8 TopRatedSports.com 11.70
9 TMan 10.75
10 ProfessorFabulous 9.75
11 raymond 6.75
12 Hudson Sports 6.25
13 Ray9 4.50
14 caden315 4.00
15 steelcity 3.50
16 HOTGUYSPORTS 3.50
17 *********-Marcus_Langdon -0.10
18 superdog -1.30
19 RedZone -1.50
20 Impact Sports Handicapping -2.20
21 Zeeman-TheSportsInfo.com -4.10
22 daniel -4.40
23 NISSports -4.55
24 Michael Alexander -5.10
25 allstarcappers -5.15
26 SuperSystemSports -6.00
27 SuperiorLineSports -6.60
28 PaulysPicks.com -7.20
29 Thunder -7.70
30 InsiderEdgeSports -8.40
31 Ben -11.20
32 SG -11.40
33 InsideInfoPlays -13.00
34 Larry Etheridge -14.50
35 Macdak40 -14.60
36 goodmanpicks -17.00
37 reliablepicks -17.25
38 Handicapping-Solutions -18.50
39 SupremePicks -21.50
40 CutAboveSports -23.00
41 USA Sports Consulting -30.00
42 T-Logic Sports -37.50
43 sailawaysports -39.70
44 mike d -46.70
45 PathfinderSports -51.20
46 bosspicks -61.00
47 ibuystock -61.15
48 Underdogsportspix -76.50
49 ThePitbull -100.05
50 Daredevil -106.45


College Football Top Handicappers
Rank User Name Total Units
1 PathfinderSports 38.00
2 steelcity 34.60
3 HOTGUYSPORTS 30.05
4 Erec Templer 21.85
5 Ray9 18.00
6 TheHeismanCFB 16.25
7 dustyduke 15.40
8 SuperiorLineSports 12.70
9 Thunder 8.70
10 SupremePicks 8.65
11 Uncle Lous Sports 8.35
12 Gridline Sports 7.80
13 USA Sports Consulting 7.55
14 Tony Diamond 7.20
15 Roger 6.50
16 RedZone 6.00
17 *********-LT_Profits 5.80
18 Hudson Sports 5.00
19 caden315 4.00
20 LateSteamPipeline 3.50
21 simplman 2.50
22 TSI-TheSportsInfo.com 1.75
23 Ben 1.15
24 OUCharles -0.50
25 Zeeman-TheSportsInfo.com -0.90
26 Handicapping-Solutions -2.20
27 VSSWinsLateSteam -2.60
28 green80 -2.85
29 daniel -4.05
30 T-Logic Sports -4.25
31 raymond -6.45
32 bosspicks -6.75
33 TMan -7.05
34 michaelalexander -7.55
35 sailawaysports -8.95
36 Impact Sports Handicapping -9.95
37 *********-Pacific_Star -10.75
38 PaulysPicks.com -12.00
39 ProfessorFabulous -12.35
40 reliablepicks -12.50


College Basketball Top Handicappers
Rank User Name Total Units
1 LateSteamPipeline 34.50
2 SupremePicks 29.50
3 HoopsieJrCBB 19.00
4 T-Logic Sports 13.00
5 Daredevil 10.00
6 CutAboveSports 10.00
7 sailawaysports 10.00
8 raymond 7.35
9 Thunder 7.00
10 HOTGUYSPORTS 6.30
11 Michael Alexander 2.00
12 InsiderEdgeSports 1.70
13 TopRatedSports.com 0.50
14 USA Sports Consulting -0.40
15 PlatinumSports -0.50
16 TMan -0.50
17 Tony Diamond -0.50
18 SuperiorLineSports -1.50
19 Macdak40 -2.00
20 *********-Marcus_Langdon -3.20
21 NISSports -4.40
22 Handicapping-Solutions -4.40
23 Hudson Sports -5.50
24 bosspicks -6.00
25 Underdogsportspix -6.00
26 allstarcappers -6.00
27 SG -6.60
28 ProfessorFabulous -11.00
29 Uncle Lous Sports -11.50



STEEL NOR ROGER HAVE PLAYED NCAA HOOPS YET- We are up over 120% the last 30 days and 90 units. So There was no false advertising. I even noted in my newsletter i lost my 8% play on Sunday and on my front page. Also one will note this sight members are not complaining just folks with some type of classless agenda. I asked our web guy to try to properly intergrate things but i really did not think it was a big deal . But it will be fixed. All of us still feel we have a home here and really care about some of the people here. I just thought i would post this. I am sure you guys will think of something else to bash about. I wish you all the best of luck-THUNDER
 

ajoytoy

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aren't we all just trying to beat the books:shrug: ...IMO NOTHING else matters....egos aside, aren't we trying to help not hinder? am i missing something there? please enlighten me if i am wrong!

amazing that people really care how bad (or good) someone else does with thier picks...unless to fade....but if you are fading plays, why would you pay for 'em:confused:

great job to all of you at your Pay site and I sure hope to see all of you around more often.....

never understood flaming others....what does someone get out of it? satisfaction?

GROW UP....i think the majority of people here are men and women...not boys and girls:nono:
 

djv

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Thunder I sure as hell hope you dont think my reply was negative.
 

AR182

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toy,

great post!!

it seems that every week there is a poster who blasts raymond & his partners. everybody who posts in this forum brings something of value. and the only thing that is accomplished by constantly bashing a poster is that you chase them away. and that is a lost to madjack's.

all raymond ever did was post plays, i never saw him solicite any business in any of his posts, just picks. if you don't like his picks, don't follow his plays. if you don't like raymond, ignore him.

every week thunder comes into the football forums, with trends & picks. again if you don't like him or his plays, just ignore him.

it goes the same for any other poster. if you don't like that poster, just ignore him.

it's pretty simple.
 

Mr Hockey

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Some people are just obsessed with their couterparts. It comes with the territory. Some should find a hobby though as their constant stalking is quite sad :rolleyes:
 

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I ave never payed for picks , never will have being playing probably 30 years , what is the purpose of paying for someones picks, really don t understand, picks for diff games are all over the place please play for what you an afford and handcap your own gl flag
 

UT-Longhorn

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how bout we just end this and move along, beating the man is our main goal and lets focus on that..........cant we all just get along?:shrug:
 

theGibber1

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paying for pix makes no sense. i dont care who its from. with juice youve got to hit about 55% to make any real profit... unless you have paid for your picks.. then well, you do the math.. almost impossible to turn any real profit. someone wrote a very good write up about this last year. i cant seem to find the thread though.

gl

gib
 

IntenseOperator

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I got one phrase that covers the whole service industry

"The people that have all the winners but still need your money":thefinger :thefinger :thefinger
 

boilermaker

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This just stupid. When these guys were not for pay, everyone lusted after thier picks. Now that they have gone pay , some want to rip them. I say Good Luck to them and everyone else. This is called gamling for a reason.;) Good Luck Thunder, Ray , Roger and Steel.
 

dr. freeze

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so what they are scammers

its stupid to pay for picks. if they were so good, one would make $$ off them themselves


its idiots like you that do nothing but help perpetuate the lies and myths
 

IntenseOperator

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I want to say that I'm not ripping anybody. I don't know who the hell are touts at this site and who aren't.

I'll state this once again.........

"The people that have all the winners but still need your money"

a simple phrase that covers it all;)
 

THUNDER

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freeze you seem like a smart man- and i am sure you will be great doc - but i assure i make plenty- i would bet that i make more in aday than most docs make in a year- i am sorry you feel that way. but again i will say this there is a good reason why the people who do pay are not involved in these threads. i am not going to knock you freeze because i have no reason to. but you do not know me. i do not scam anybody in any of my biz ventures and i will leave it at that- i am glad you do well for yourself and know how to cap a game- you are very opinionated which is a good thing- but degrading someone is a young thing to do and i thinkis above you.
 

hellah10

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i got a friend that went pay -- and he makes at least 50-60 times more off his pay service then he would just betting the games with his own money. Why do people say "if your so good, why go pay when you can make money betting your own games" ???? Do ppl realize how much ppl make running these services? Its a shitload more then what you make betting on games for a year - - a shitload more.
 

theGibber1

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i make more in aday than most docs make in a year

LOL!!!!!!!!!
my brother-in-law makes $550,000 a year...

who needs a 8 yrs of med school?

i want to make doctor money.

sign me up for those picks!


not bashing your service but this statement is laughable

gl

gib
:)
 

saint

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Hmm, saying an average doctor makes 150,000 a year, I guess Thunder makes about 750 grand in a week, or a yearly salary of roughly 39 MILLION DOLLARS. And you need to post at MadJack to get people to buy into your service with an income like that huh.

LMAO more than a doctor in a day :rolleyes:
 
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