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ddubs

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Frogy said:
Usually you dont open "cans of worms".....you just let things roll by.

You always been "over the crowd" in here and i always appreciate this.

I dont need you to explain, you are the master of this place.

People want him to comeback...so it will last 2 weeks and this site will continu. I just dont understand what you have to gain by getting involve.

I'll probably catch some heat for this, but I'm with Frogy. It's Jack's website and he can run it any way he wants. If Horns wants to leave, let him leave. If he thinks the forum benefits from keeping a few posters that put up a worthless post once a while than losing Horns, it's his prerogative. There's no need for the moderator/site owner to start a specific thread for the various members to declare open season on Horns before he leaves. This would all die down soon anyways.
 

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ddubs

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I understand this thread to be OPEN Discussion.....NOT Open Season!! Views from all sides are welcomed.

Keep it Positive, Topdog
 

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I for one will miss Horns expertise in hockey as he was a great help to me. I'm sorry though he let some people get under his skin to the point of running to MJ. It is pretty easy to figure out who is sincere and truly trying vs. those just running their mouths or thread. You learn who to respect, and who to ignore. I gamble because its fun! I read some guys strictly for the laughs but won't put any value on their pick. I read some guys for the info and knowledge they have and try to make my own choices, right or wrong. This forum has great balance to add to the whole fun of gambling. I like to bust balls and I feel bad when my pick may lose. If someone want to get pissed, well that is their choice. I, like most people in here are doing their best. Hot and cold streaks, pumped up or pissed off, whatever, thats part of this place. We are all guests of MJ's in this forum and I appreciate the great latitude and variety that makes it up. I run my own business, I am going to school for my masters in theology, and I have four kids and only 1 wife thank God. I come here to pick others brains who have time to do the research I don't have. I thank all you guys for a great forum. Keep up the good work.:D
 

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Hate to see him go. I always enjoyed his posts. Hope everything works out for the best. I understand his feelings towards the bashing. I had a guy bash me for taking a night off.:confused: Just don't understand the need to bash someone else.:shrug:
Good Luck Horns
 

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He will be missed, and hopefully he'll pass on some Ottawa Senators info the odd time so that I may share with others on here in the hockey forum. I know that there are two sides to a story, but getting back to the main issue, edludes was bashing horns, and as jack stated in a sticky, if one is going to bash, he'll be banned. I am not one to tell jack how to run his business, but the bashing has got to stop as many great cappers have left this forum due to the negative conduct of a few.

Hopefully jack and kevin can settle their differences so that ALL of us benefit from the forum.
 

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Dearest YYZ-My overall record on Bestbettor.com proves you are in your comfort zone......wrong.I've hit 54% all three years I've posted there.Like it or not that makes me something someone like you will never be,a winning gambler.You tried to compete on a level playing field with me at bestbettor.com and lost.Anyone who listens to your "opinion" about handicapped sports for any reason other than to fade you is making a dreadful mistake.Miami-14 vs Houston the first week in your big suicide pool was great.Go look at NCAA football leaderboard on bestbettor and click this seasons results,then look at the top of the list.Its safe to say that you never had a year like that in your life and I've not only had a 69% year (about 25 units up),I documented it.If any of the pay boys had done that you'd be going down on them,but they start documenting then quit in disgrace when the numbers show them to be big losers,just like they did for you, YYZ.I've also finished in the top ten in baseball the last two seasons and am also currently #2 alltime all sports in totals winnings.Where are you,YYZ (and for that matter Pengiunfan?I love the fan phenomena here,always liking their team in a rout,its hilarious.)What have you ever contributed handicapping wise?My analysis of the S'cuse/Nd and the BoiseSt/Hawaii games alone last Sat.are more than the sum total of anything I've ever heard from you about the subject matter of this forum,sports handicapping.I don't lose any sleep over what you think,you haven't proven to know anything about handicapping except that you can't do it,and yet like Scott you go on and on and on and on saying laughable ridiculous stuff on a gambling forum.As for poor "ndhorns",I very politely outlined why his play on his beloved ND vs the 'Cuse was likely to be the big 20 point public loser that it was,and I said nothing rude to him.If he was angry with me for being right on then too bad.Any time I see a 2 point home dog,I look at the underdog first.It is often an illussion,and quite often the dog or fav wins in a convincing fashion(reads rout.)I tried helpfully to tell him what some of the indicators were for such a spot in both my posts in his thread.In that game where the disparity between what the two teams did the week before was so wide,made it a play whose outcome was self revealing just by looking at the line,not boxscores or stats required.It shoulda jumped out at an experienced 'capper,yet the stampede was on for the Irish.LAST weeks team.Madjack-I sincerely apologize to you if anything I've said has made your job more difficult.
 
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Ya know I don't really like where this is going. After going back and reading the posts related to this topic, it seems to me to be shaping up as the guys from north of the border defending ND and all the rest either agreeing with Jack or at least aknowledging how off base ND was with his emails to Jack.

I have to agree with eludes on his post above. The couple of posts in ND thread was far from bashing. When I first saw this whole thing this morning, I thought there was a hellva alot more than that going on and I stood up for ND as I always thought he was a stand up capper here. But after reading the crap he was emailing to Jack and then to find out he was outraged because of eludes posts about the ND/Syracuse game, gimme a break.

I still don't understand how alot of the Canadian guys like Dr Strangelove and yyz and some others are miffed about who gets banned, but don't seemed to be bothered by ND behavior toward Jack.

yyz, I looked and looked and couldn't find a bag of shit 9 outta 10 posts for eludes. Not to mention all the bashing ND did about the Worm.

This is sizing up as taking sides as I stated before. All I know is Jack will run this site as he wants and he shouldn't have to take anything like he was subjected to by ND's intimidating emails, THAT IS JUST WRONG, and if some guys can' t take a little criticism, they don't belong in a public forum. :nono:
 

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Ctown,

You didn't look too hard then!

edludes is one of the biggets pricks on the net. He lives for bestbettor, and pissing in peoples threads. I am glad Jack created that place, so guys with no money in play have some place to have some fun. edludes would have you believe he is a winner. He has his play account "up" a couple dimes at this point. The guy does not wager with real money, and most likely never will. That's fine......just don't pretend you're some big wheel, when you're a complete tool.

1992-1733-76 53% 2,207.78

260 games above .500 and a whopping 2,200 "up"?????:shrug: (Maybe if you only played the chalk at -300 or more next year, you could brag about hitting 60%?) Of course, you would be about -10,000 "dollars".

edludes has made a carreer out of looking like an ass here at MadJacks. He is everything a "handicapper" is not. The entire board can see that, yet he fails to see the forest for the trees. The guy "bets" every game on the board, and would have you believe he is for real. A mid-schooler with a USAToday can match his plays with edludes.

This season, ludes wants me to look at his marvelous in the NCAA football catagory. Last season it was "I'm a whiz at NBA!" (Because that's what sport his coin was clicking in at that point in time.) He is, always was, and always will be, a joke.

He states, "You tried to compete on a level playing field with me at bestbettor.com and lost." That is a complete lie, but he lives in his own world, and probably convinced himself that is the truth. He has lost at both "contests" we have had, and he will lose at every other one we would have in the future. Do I have to crank up that shitty "edludes blows" account again, and hand you your weak ass for a third season???????

If any of the pay boys had done that you'd be going down on them,but they start documenting then quit in disgrace when the numbers show them to be big losers,just like you did YYZ

I post my numbers with every single play I make......can you say that, stud? Strong or weak.....they get posted.

I've also finished in the top ten in baseball the last two seasons.

I forget. Tell me again how much that pays over there at bestbettor???

As for poor "ndhorns",I very politely outlined why his play on his beloved ND vs the 'Cuse was likely to be the big 20 point public loser that it was,I said nothing rude to him.

I suppose that comment isn't rude, either? poor ndhorns? His "beloved" ND????? 'Cuse was likely to be the big 20 point public loser that it was????? No.....That's not rude!

I don't know which is worse. The fact that you are a dumbass, or the fact that you are too stupid to see it! And when you go BACK into his thread to say, "I told you so", it makes it even worse. Maybe I'll start coming into your threads and sucker punching you. You post your plays about once a week. Perhaps some folks here should wind you up, too?

Pick the next sport you want me to beat you in, and I'll give you one more chance to "be the man"!


Oh.....and since you wanted to bring up my "bad play" on Miami in the opening week of the season going tits up, I thought I'd bring this "gem" of yours to light:


Could not agree more 4bubba!I show the dolphins winning by 6 myself and an over as well.Let the fans cry and the handicappers get paid.GL either way

Final score: NE 12 MIA 0

(I guess you must be a "fan", huh?)

Look on the bright side, edludes.......You didn't include the "over" in your 18 bestbettor plays for last week's NFL action, so you went 5-13 instead of a heartbreaking 5-14.

Every shitty play of mine that you want to re-hash, I will be happy to post five of yours.



Ctown.......For what it's worth, I am not from Canada, I am from Wisconsin, and in my post above, I clearly stated that I thought horns behavior towards Jack was out of bounds.
 
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Well yyz, I can see there are some real issues you have with edludes that I admit I don't have or haven't seen. By no means am I trying to change your mind about that.

Just saying that some of that is going to happen because this is a public forum and it is not owned by the posters and people, right or wrong are going to get ragged on etc, if they can't take it or give it back then they can leave like ND did, but not threaten the owner.

I'm sorry but I guess I missed the part of your thread that clearly stated your feelings about ND behavior, but no matter, you have every right to agree or not and I do apologize about putting you in Canada, even though Wisconsin probably should be :D

Just kidding:D
 

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Here you go, ctown


yyz said:

I just can't see telling Jack who can stay, and who should go. I'll admit, I have questioned Jack in the past about certain posters, and why they are still here, but I never said "Them or me". Shit, no one is that fuking big around here.

Wisconsin SHOULD be in Canada! I would feel like I was making far better money at the toll booth.
 

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Re: Defamation of character

Re: Defamation of character

no pepper said:
I am not a lawyer. (In fact, I am a simple caveman). But for a "defamation of character" suit to hold any ground I thought you had to hold some type of celebrity status; you must be a somewhat well known public figure. Don't think nd2003horns is a household name.

The law has nothing to do with celebrity status.
 

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I WILL MISS THE GUY... IT WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT IF HE WENT TO A PAY SERVICE LIKE THUNDER. POOR THUNDER IS GETTING BASHED LEFT LEFT AND
RIGHT SINCE HE WENT TO PAY SERVICE. I UNDERSTAND JACK'S THOUGHTS,
BUT TOO BAD TO LOSE HIM.
JMAC
I FEEL HE HAS MORE SUPPORTERS HERE TO SUPPORT HIM THAN ME. I MADE
SOME GOOD MONEY OFF THE GUY
 

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JMAC said:
I WILL MISS THE GUY... IT WOULD HAVE WORKED OUT IF HE WENT TO A PAY SERVICE LIKE THUNDER. POOR THUNDER IS GETTING BASHED LEFT LEFT AND
RIGHT SINCE HE WENT TO PAY SERVICE. I UNDERSTAND JACK'S THOUGHTS,
BUT TOO BAD TO LOSE HIM.
JMAC
I FEEL HE HAS MORE SUPPORTERS HERE TO SUPPORT HIM THAN ME. I MADE
SOME GOOD MONEY OFF THE GUY

Jmac r u serious, as much as I liked horns he could not take any criticism, and anybody that goes pay, gets bashed for every loss. Their is no way he would have lasted like that.:rolleyes: But like everybody's else has said, he is leaving on his own free will, so let him go, he lives in the USA now, phoenix I am pretty sure, the man is old enuff to make up his own decisions on where to post. But I still believe this is the best site on the net.
 

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countinguy:

completely agree with all your posts in this thread.

this is clearly the elite capping site on the net. threatening or claiming to take your ball and go home (or post elsewhere) doesnt make much sense, given the fact that there is not a site that is more professionally run, nor is there a site that has better cappers from top to bottom.

while i dont condone any sort of bashing (deserved or otherwise), it seemed a little much that horns got that upset over pretty trivial stuff.

in my case, ive got wage.rtalk idiots stalking me and bashing me every now and then on this site (they actually waste their time registering, receiving a password, and then punching their 'mental time clock' and bash like theyre getting paid for it). ive had guys try to slander me and take all kinds of shots at me. the stuff they make up about me is beyond comprehension. im amazed some of these guys that bash me arent professional fiction novelists. their stories and slander are amazing. all i do is continue to post and contribute and let jack deal with the losers and guys that waste their lives bashing and concocting nonsense.

im a little surprised that horns out and out left the site, just like im surprised he got that bothered by certain posters.

hell, certain posters are losers and ego hounds (guys like anthony richkas, who might be the best fade on this site) but for the most part, this site is EXTREMELY civil compared to the sh1tholes ive encountered and posted at in the past.

jack CARES about his site. he legitimately wants it to succeed. that cant be said for a lot of sites around the net.

anyone is free to go elsewhere. problem is, its a step down anywhere you go.

i think horns will be missed. just wish his skin was thicker. i HATE when people lie about me and bash me. but ive learned that the internet attracts a lot of losers. all this site can hope for is that for every 100 guys that register, 90-95 are normal people who legitimately want to contribute.

the internet, just like our world, is not a utopia. lots of losers on these boards. just gotta learn to roll with the punches and form alliances with those who ARE LEGITIMATELY GENUINE PEOPLE. theres a LOT of those guys here. but theres always the stray losers. just gotta ignore em
 

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You gotta love the internet it brings out the other side of people at it fullest. Cry me a ****n river, I'm leavin on a jet plane! Some of these people need to get a life or get laid either one. This happens all the time at every board everywhere on the net. Me,me,me,me,me.

YYZ LMAO!

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