monday ncaa...........

[gman2]

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villanova (+7) over st.josephs
villanova moneyline (+275) over st.josephs

easy st.joes faithful. not tryin to prove a point here; however i do think this is really the only team with a legit shot to beat the hawks the rest of the regular season. even though im not sold on st.joes whatsover, i think they could go through the regular
season undefeated if they win here. rhode island is MAYBE the only other team with a good shot of beating em. but lets not get
ahead of ourselves. i think villanova wins this game. theyre a live dog that rebounds the ball well (an area where joes is extremely deficient) and the cats shoot free throws exceptionally well (75%).
obviously this is a rivalry game and that in itself makes it an important game. but realistically, this might be the only time the rest of the regular season i will confidentally place my money against the hawks. in my opinion- jury is still out on em. i think villanova will be physical with them and win this game outright. villanova reminds me a lot of the california team that gave st.joes a lot of trouble a month ago.

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unlv moneyline (+120) over air force

no real write-up on this one, just playing what i think is a lot of line value. falcons have made amazing strides this year but i think its a little much to have em as a road chalk in vegas. obviously completely contrasting styles in this one. gonna be up to unlv to be disciplined in the halfcourt. i know this is a rare spot for air force to showcase their program and im sure they want to take advantage of it. but i dont see them getting out of vegas with a win. its not that i dont buy into the air force success, nor do i think theyre playing over their heads. this falcon team runs that princeton offense to perfection and what theyre doing isnt a fluke. but i still think back-to-back road games (2 in 3 nights) vs the two most athletic teams in the mountain west will be tough. afa handles san diego state, but im not sure they can pull off the weekend road sweep.
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[Woizeee]

wow i just noticed that AF has won every game by DD in the month of January (except for beating color st @ colo st by 8). AF is a solid team that executes and can shoot the ball. UNLV is more athletic and all but man they have to VALUE the ball and play under control or they will be in for a long night. AF sucks u into their style of play and many teams cant handle it and get flustered and get away from THEIR own game. This is a tough call, AF has to lose at some time, they havent lost in weeks but its tough to go against them...

GL on your play gman

 

[mjalam]

st joes will win so don't waste your money on the money line ..but as always i wish you good luck

still don't know why you aren't sold on st. joes...but i guess them winning is the only way for them to prove themselves

 

[Bombs]

Even though I think St. Joes is a legit Top 5 team, I will say that Nova is super undervalued here. They have really been coming on (especially after they started the year with that suspension mess) and have a very, very nice mix of talent. They should be real tough in this spot.

 

[Cie]

3rd straight on the road for St Joe's.

 

[Valuist]

St. Joes has shot an unbelievable 60% on 3s the L2 games but Villanova defends the 3 pretty good. At some pt, St. Joe's 3s aren't going to fall. Tonight could be it.

 

[gman2]

mjalam:

ill be sure to forward your post to coach wright and his players. since they have no shot, perhaps they will think better of it and decide to not show up for the game tonight (just breaking balls).

bombs:

thats how i look at it as well. whether or not sju is top 5/10/15 or whatever isnt the issue. i just see a ton of value in villanova, a team that rebounds, is physical, and shoots FTs well. just a solid rivalry dog imo.

again, not knocking st.joes. if they win here, their only real test the rest of the way is rhode island. but i think they stumble tonight.

 

[HoopsGuru]

nova lost to rutgers, notre dame and memphis at home. you're just waiting for st joes to lose but its not happening till the tournament so save your money with these ml bets against the hawks. yes they don't rebound well, big deal, lets see how frazier and those bums do against d jones in the middle. everytime they've needed a big game from jones he's delivered with a double double. obviously they get out rebounded when they're using a line up of 4 guards and dwayne jones a decent amount of the games. when you shoot 50 % from 3's you don't need to worry about rebounds. you obviously have something against the hawks when the majority of their games you bet against them. i agree the line is high tonight but i believe the hawks will win, with a good chance of a cover and that the ml bet is not good value. good luck with your bet though even though gonzaga is clearly not better than the hawks now. they wouldn't struggle against santa clara and san diego like the zags have.

 

[FATMAN]

Not to start more chit about st. joes but I say gonzaga goes farther in the tourney. I totally agree that going undeafeted in the regular season is an accomplishment in any conference that being said it is the a-10, name me another good team right now from that conference

Live by the 3, die by the 3

 

[Howie's Hot]

Dayton17-3...

 

[gman2]

you obviously have something against the hawks when the majority of their games you bet against them

ive bet st.joes games a whopping THREE times this year and have made money.

im not sure why some people get so offended that i feel gonzaga is better than st.josephs. gonzaga is a school thousands of miles away. there is no regional bias or bias of any sort. i just stand behind what i believe.

ive said it before and ill say it again: i have nothing against st.josephs. i just dont think you can win in march shooting the ball from the perimeter as much as they do. the game of basketball hasnt been re-invented overnight. you still have to do certain things well in order to win in march.

just the way i see it

 

[RexBudler]

ST Joes already beat Gonzaga this year Fatman....but who knows.....FYI....in ST Joes last game I believe they made 20 3 pointers and only 4 reg baskets :shrug: ....dont know if that goes into play here
good luck Gman.....Im leaning towards the points also

 

[FATMAN]

I know they beat them already................I was just saying they will go farther in the tourney..

YES that stat is correct they made 20 3's and only 4 2's

You can't and won't do that in the tourney!!!!!

their lack of an inside game is going to catch up w/ them

but their guards are studs.........period

 

[ezpickin]

I like Nova as well...that said, they are an incredibly popular pick amongst all the capping boards...if history is any indicator, this usually spells disaster...gl...

 

[mjalam]

gonzaga the team that had trouble beating san diego..better than st joes...you guys are funny


st joes beat gonzaga...but your excuse will be that turiaf didn't play a lick hardly...sorry to say it, but this team of "white" boys will never knock off st joes this year

and i doubt gonzaga goes farther in the tourney..but only time will tell...sorry to clutter your thread...good luck on your bets

 

[ZMAN]

will be at game tonight. nova season tix. sju will win going away....

 

[gman2]

gonzaga the team that had trouble beating san diego..better than st joes...you guys are funny


st joes beat gonzaga...but your excuse will be that turiaf didn't play a lick hardly...sorry to say it, but this team of "white" boys will never knock off st joes this year

and i doubt gonzaga goes farther in the tourney..but only time will tell...sorry to clutter your thread...good luck on your bets

1) when did st.joes become a team of hardcore brothers?

2) this is the same st.joes team that got eliminated by a lame auburn team last year that was the last of the 65 teams to make the field. how is this year gonna magically be different?

3) gonzagas average margin of victory is like 18 points. it aint like theyre "just getting by". so they struggled with san diego. joes struggled with old dominion. duke struggled with detroit. kentucky with austin peay. and on and on.

 

[Hoops]

2) this is the same st.joes team that got eliminated by a lame auburn team last year that was the last of the 65 teams to make the field. how is this year gonna magically be different?

As it was already pointed-out, the main factor in St Joe's losing to Auburn was the status of Delonte West. He was playing at probably less than 75% and they still had more than a good chance at beating them.

I was against Auburn getting invited to the big dance last season, but they more than proved they belonged during the tournament. That 'lame' Auburn team beat St Joe's, beat #2 seed Wake Forest, and lost to Syracuse by one point. Hardly 'lame' if you ask me.

 

[gman2]

hoops:

i knew the answer- my point was that you cant argue that the turiaf injury didnt matter when gonzaga played joes but the west injury did matter in the tourney

as far as auburn goes, that just re-affirmed my point though. even middle-of-the-pack power conference teams can present problems for a team that relies so much on the perimeter.

trust me, i KNOW st.joes is good. but i dont think its unreasonable to think they could be a first weekend casualty if they get matched up with a physical defense team who is strong on the glass. auburn was just that type of team last year.

obviously theyre gonna win their 1st game. but their 2nd round game is NOT going to be a gimmie if they face a physically tough team.

i know every team has ideal matchups and less-than-ideal matchups. all teams have strengths and weaknesses. but their lack of ANYTHING inside just cannot be ignored. i dont see how it can. :shrug: even vs. xavier, joes looked suspect. muskateers are a physical defense team and joes struggled mightily at times in that game.

(also, how can you say joes had a more than good chance of beating auburn. they led for all of like 3:00 in that game and were playing catch-up the entire game)

(hoops: also have a high respect for your basketball acumen. nothing wrong with debating and disagreeing with solid facts on both sides)

 

[caper]

gman, think the zips are 6 pts better @ home tonite than marshall?...i'm guessing tarver might make amends for a sub par performance last game...gl, caper