Fox reporting O'Connor is retiring
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8430976/
You're right, Matt, should be fun. This story link has a few guesses of replacements for her.
You're right, Matt, should be fun. This story link has a few guesses of replacements for her.
Thanks Clint.
Kennedy's already yapping about blocking any nominee that 'seeks to roll back individual rights.' I didn't hear anything from him about the ridiculous eminent domain ruling in which 4 of the 5 in the majority were liberals. And I think that ruling 'rolled back' individual rights as far as they can go.
It's going to be a total circus.
On the eminent domain note, Nosigar, O'Connor wrote the dissenting opinion on that one. She has always been very fair and level-headed. I could see your glee if it was Breyer or Souter, but not her.
Kennedy's already yapping about blocking any nominee that 'seeks to roll back individual rights.' I didn't hear anything from him about the ridiculous eminent domain ruling in which 4 of the 5 in the majority were liberals. And I think that ruling 'rolled back' individual rights as far as they can go.
It's going to be a total circus.
On the eminent domain note, Nosigar, O'Connor wrote the dissenting opinion on that one. She has always been very fair and level-headed. I could see your glee if it was Breyer or Souter, but not her.
kosar said:
Actually, I would be very happy if it were Bader Ginsburg.
But at least it's not Scalia,Thomas or Rehnquist yet. Aside from the decision on eminent domain, lately she's been more liberal, but overall pretty fair. Though she is a Reagan appointment, from back in the days when we didn't have to fight an internal enemy of the country and Bench Dictatorship, and never imagined having to do so.
My woo hoo was mostly 'cause of the battle coming. The neo-socialists will stoop to even newer lows criticizing any decent candidate.
I'm feeling like a Conservative on this issue (but I aklways forget that I'm 55% Con. anyway). I wish it was one of the L words rather than her retiring.
I hope we get a centrist replacement. If Dem pressure causes compromise, that would be nice. If the candidate is decent, but Dems get all partisan and want to block him/her anyway, then they and Ted Kennedy can bite me.
I lost any faith I had in the current court with that property ruling, as well as the medical pot one a week before. I could care less about abortion. If that's what it takes to get reasonable judges, then I'll overturn Roe v Wade in a second.
I hope we get a centrist replacement. If Dem pressure causes compromise, that would be nice. If the candidate is decent, but Dems get all partisan and want to block him/her anyway, then they and Ted Kennedy can bite me.
I lost any faith I had in the current court with that property ruling, as well as the medical pot one a week before. I could care less about abortion. If that's what it takes to get reasonable judges, then I'll overturn Roe v Wade in a second.
Gotcha on the 'yoo-hoo.'
If it was Rehnquist going first, the dems would likely give Bush a wide berth on nominees and still might with him depending on what happens here.
But with O'Connor, the fight is gonna be nasty and prolonged.
Maybe Bush is smart enough to nominate moderate conservatives and those that would not overturn Roe/Wade, but as we know, he's isn't really known for his brains.
He can get a far right person in there when Rehnquist goes, but not with this one.
If it was Rehnquist going first, the dems would likely give Bush a wide berth on nominees and still might with him depending on what happens here.
But with O'Connor, the fight is gonna be nasty and prolonged.
Maybe Bush is smart enough to nominate moderate conservatives and those that would not overturn Roe/Wade, but as we know, he's isn't really known for his brains.
He can get a far right person in there when Rehnquist goes, but not with this one.
I agree with Dr. Freeze, now we only need Scalia and Thomas to leave and maybe the court will actually function the way the constitution deemed it to act
Scalia, Thomas and Rhenquist are the only ones holding back the Reds, anarchists, fasciist-humanist athiest ACLU members who hate anyone who doesnt believe the way they do
Get rid of them and you can kiss your personal property rights, a free-market, the American Dream, free speech, freedom of religion, and many other rights away
your land will be the governments land
your money will be the governments money
what the government says you can say will be what you say
etc. etc.
Get rid of them and you can kiss your personal property rights, a free-market, the American Dream, free speech, freedom of religion, and many other rights away
your land will be the governments land
your money will be the governments money
what the government says you can say will be what you say
etc. etc.
by the way, i love the liberal logic
falls right in line with "don't chase a crook because he might get hurt"
and: "don't make a prisoner work, it is inhumane"
lol...i dont know, maybe its me, but i give an 18 year old a little more responsibility
you choose to get pregnant, or choose not to use birth control, or choose not to seek medical help after a rape, and you are also choosing to have a baby and if you want there are plenty of willing parents out there if you cant handle it
in your proposed situation, the baby gets no choice and protecting those in their most vulnerable state takes priority over killing because of irresponsibility
i cant even believe that this is still even an issue....killing a baby is just beyond imagination and i cant believe any society would allow such an atrocity
falls right in line with "don't chase a crook because he might get hurt"
and: "don't make a prisoner work, it is inhumane"
lol...i dont know, maybe its me, but i give an 18 year old a little more responsibility
you choose to get pregnant, or choose not to use birth control, or choose not to seek medical help after a rape, and you are also choosing to have a baby and if you want there are plenty of willing parents out there if you cant handle it
in your proposed situation, the baby gets no choice and protecting those in their most vulnerable state takes priority over killing because of irresponsibility
i cant even believe that this is still even an issue....killing a baby is just beyond imagination and i cant believe any society would allow such an atrocity
Freeze, I just said it will be interesting to see how the press plays it I didn't give my opinion on abortion. I do struggle with the hypocrisy of Dubya on that one though. Why is a rape or incest conceived fetus not deserving the same protection against abortion as one conceived because of too many drinks on a hot summer night?
stevied, i wonder the same thing
smurphy, how is adding a killing to a rape victim not more punishment...and since when have you been concerned about justice for victims?
funny how a left winger always tries to find the rarest of scenarios and caters all thought towards that specific situation...then conveniently does not promote providing full information of what happens during an abortion procedure as he/she dismisses the killing as an afterthought and would rather not think about what he/she is actually endorsing
but no, he thinks that blinding the world to what goes on during a baby killing, so that his specific situation, a rape victim who did not seek help can get her baby killled will not be faced with the reality of what just happened
for some reason, this twisted line of thinking permeates the media and has given way to this death culture. "Lets just all become desensitized to reality, that is the best way of dealing with all the tough issues -- that way we can just slough them off and ignore them as if they are not there"
Similarly, the left winger applies this to life: No one should work hard, no one should endure hardship, no one should overcome their hardship with hardwork ESPECIALLY. Naw, you should have everything given to you and if anything tough comes your way, We, the liberal will take it away from you, even if it means killing a vulnerable, unborn child
Smurphy, evidently you are unable to comprehend the conservative worldview, and probably will be forever blind to it. You think that ending another life is the solution to your situation and for some reason assume that every unplanned pregnancy brings nothing but misery to a parent/parents. You negect options such as adoption and assume blindly that emotional consequences such as abortion do not play a role. How about that woman who when she gets older realizes what she did to her baby which you so conveniently discarded?
smurphy, how is adding a killing to a rape victim not more punishment...and since when have you been concerned about justice for victims?
funny how a left winger always tries to find the rarest of scenarios and caters all thought towards that specific situation...then conveniently does not promote providing full information of what happens during an abortion procedure as he/she dismisses the killing as an afterthought and would rather not think about what he/she is actually endorsing
but no, he thinks that blinding the world to what goes on during a baby killing, so that his specific situation, a rape victim who did not seek help can get her baby killled will not be faced with the reality of what just happened
for some reason, this twisted line of thinking permeates the media and has given way to this death culture. "Lets just all become desensitized to reality, that is the best way of dealing with all the tough issues -- that way we can just slough them off and ignore them as if they are not there"
Similarly, the left winger applies this to life: No one should work hard, no one should endure hardship, no one should overcome their hardship with hardwork ESPECIALLY. Naw, you should have everything given to you and if anything tough comes your way, We, the liberal will take it away from you, even if it means killing a vulnerable, unborn child
Smurphy, evidently you are unable to comprehend the conservative worldview, and probably will be forever blind to it. You think that ending another life is the solution to your situation and for some reason assume that every unplanned pregnancy brings nothing but misery to a parent/parents. You negect options such as adoption and assume blindly that emotional consequences such as abortion do not play a role. How about that woman who when she gets older realizes what she did to her baby which you so conveniently discarded?
i got the inside skinny on the bush nominee.....
it`s zell miller....
keep it under your hat... :yup
:mj03: :wtf:
it`s zell miller....
keep it under your hat... :yup
:mj03: :wtf:
Sen. Edward Kennedy, a leading liberal in the Democratic Party, immediately challenged Bush.
"If the president nominates someone who threatens to roll back the rights and freedom of the American people, the American people will insist we oppose that nominee, and we will do so," the Massachusetts lawmaker said.
Would someone sober him up for a few hours and remind him what "The American People" have been insisting on in last 2 elections!
Evidently he thinks the American People are only confined to Mass
"If the president nominates someone who threatens to roll back the rights and freedom of the American people, the American people will insist we oppose that nominee, and we will do so," the Massachusetts lawmaker said.
Would someone sober him up for a few hours and remind him what "The American People" have been insisting on in last 2 elections!
Evidently he thinks the American People are only confined to Mass
I would hardly call the last two Presidential elections mandates for how the people are leaning, as the first election was decided by the Supreme Court and the second showed that people are closely divided. If anything Bush would be wise to nominate someone whom is similiar to Justice O'Connor a moderate if he wants to make a statement that he is a uniter. As far as Abortion these same people that are so up in arms about stopping abortion would be the first one's to be taking their daughter to get a abortion if they were pregnated by someone of another race. Bottom line is that you are not going to stop abortions even if you overturn Roe vs Wade, if anything you will then allow it to fall into the hands of the unskilled.
Scalia, Thomas and Rhenquist are the only ones holding back the Reds, anarchists, fasciist-humanist athiest ACLU members who hate anyone who doesnt believe the way they do
Wow I am glad they have solely held down the fort against the communist insurgents that have made every attempt to ruin this country, but if they actually ruled by the constitution should not the Reds, Facist etc.. have the rights of freedom of speech and religion? Too bad they have not done such a good job holding back the wacko religious right whom want to trample on the constitution and force people to live under their rules regardless of what the constitution states.
Scalia, Thomas and Rhenquist are the only ones holding back the Reds, anarchists, fasciist-humanist athiest ACLU members who hate anyone who doesnt believe the way they do
Wow I am glad they have solely held down the fort against the communist insurgents that have made every attempt to ruin this country, but if they actually ruled by the constitution should not the Reds, Facist etc.. have the rights of freedom of speech and religion? Too bad they have not done such a good job holding back the wacko religious right whom want to trample on the constitution and force people to live under their rules regardless of what the constitution states.
