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The Carlyle White House
By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Columnist


Tuesday 14 November 2006


It was bad enough when the Carlyle Group bought Dunkin'
Donuts last year, forcing millions of conscientious caffeine
addicts to look elsewhere for their daily fix. Now, it
appears Carlyle has added 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue to its
formidable portfolio of acquisitions.


The Carlyle Group achieved national attention in the
early days of the Iraq occupation, especially after Michael
Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" exposed the firm's umbilical ties
to the Bush family and the House of Saud. For the
uninitiated, Carlyle is a privately-owned equity firm
organized and run by former members of the Reagan and Bush
Sr. administrations.


Currently, Carlyle manages more than $44 billion in 42
different investment funds, which is an interesting fact in
and of itself: Carlyle could lay claim to only a meager $12
billion in funds in December of 2001. Thanks to their
ownership of United Defense Industries, a major military
contractor that sells a whole galaxy of weapons systems to
the Pentagon, Carlyle's profits skyrocketed after the
invasion and occupation of Iraq.


Some notable present and former employees of Carlyle
include former president George H.W. Bush, who resigned in
2003; James Baker III, Bush Sr.'s secretary of state and
king fixer; and George W. Bush, who served on Carlyle's
board of directors until his run for the Texas governorship.
One notable former client of Carlyle was the Saudi BinLaden
Group, which sold its investment back to the firm a month
after the September 11 attacks. Until the October 2001
sellout, Osama bin Laden himself had a financial interest in
the same firm that employed the two presidents Bush.


How has Carlyle managed to acquire the White House? The
newest edition of Newsweek begins to tell the tale in a
story titled "The Rescue Squad": "Bush Senior has been
relegated to watching all those political talk shows his son
refuses to watch, wincing each time he hears his son's name
being mocked or criticized. George H.W. Bush has been, in
effect, sidelined by nepotism. He has repeatedly told close
friends that he does not believe it is appropriate or wise
to second-guess his son, or even offer advice beyond loving
support. This time, however, was different. A source who
declined to be identified discussing presidential
confidences told NEWSWEEK that Bush 41 left 'fingerprints'
on the Rumsfeld-Gates decision, though the father's exact
role remains shrouded in speculation."


There is much more to this than Big George simply trying
to shove Little George in a different direction, because Big
George never travels alone. All of a sudden, two of the
elder's main men - James Baker III and Robert Gates - are
back in the saddle. Baker has spent the last weeks riding
herd over the Iraq Survey Group, a collection of old foreign
policy hands tasked to come up with a solution to the Iraq
debacle. Gates was a member of this group until he was
tapped to replace Don Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. The
Iraq Survey Group is slated to produce some tablets of
wisdom come December.


A third member of the Iraq Survey Group, former
congressman Lee Hamilton, is the rope that ties this curious
historical package together. During the Reagan days,
Hamilton was chairman of the committee investigating the
Iran/Contra scandal that nearly submarined Reagan's
presidency and haunted Bush Sr. until his defeat in 1992. In
essence, Hamilton took Reagan's people at their word when
they assured the chairman that neither Reagan nor Bush were
"in the loop" regarding the arms-for-hostages deal.


History and investigation have proven this to be quite
separate from the truth, and Hamilton later admitted he
should not have bought what Reagan's people were selling.
The fact remains, however, that Hamilton let these guys slip
the noose during what was, at the time, an investigation
into one of the most serious abrogations of Constitutional
law in our history. It is worthwhile to note that the man
who brought the most pressure upon Hamilton within Congress
to be "bipartisan" and avoid a protracted investigation was
then-Wyoming representative Dick Cheney.


One of the men spared prosecution in the Iran/Contra
scandal, thanks in no small part to the gentility of Mr.
Hamilton, was Robert Gates. Gates, then a senior official
within the CIA, was widely believed to have been neck-deep
in the plot. During the investigation into the scandal,
Gates parroted Reagan and claimed not to remember when he
knew what he knew about everything that was happening down
in Ollie North's office. In 1991, he was nominated and
eventually appointed to be the head of CIA by Bush Sr.
During his confirmation hearings, according to the New York
Times, it was revealed that "Mr. Gates [had] distorted
intelligence reports so they would conform to the political
beliefs of his superiors."


That sounds familiar.


Gates's nomination to the post of secretary of defense
was field-generaled behind the scenes by James Baker III,
who has suddenly taken on a muscular role within the Bush
White House since the spectacular Republican wipeout during
the midterm elections last Tuesday. Baker's return, along
with the new prominence of Bush Sr., has been hailed in the
mainstream press as a healthy step toward stability and
sanity.


One is forced to wonder, however, which masters Mr.
Baker is actually serving. Baker's Carlyle Group has
profited wildly from the conflict in Iraq, which begs the
question: will the bottom line, augmented by Carlyle's
defense contracts, trump any attempts to establish a just
and lasting peace? It must also be noted that Baker's law
firm, Baker Botts, is currently serving as defense counsel
for Saudi Arabia against a suit brought by the families of
9/11 victims. The connections between the Bush family and
the Saudi royals has been discussed ad nauseam, and Mr.
Baker is so closely entwined with the Bush clan that he
might as well be a blood relative.


The weakening of George W. Bush, in short, has opened
the door for an alumnus of the Iran/Contra scandal, Robert
Gates, to gain control of the Pentagon - his nomination, as
yet, has met with little Congressional resistance. This
process was managed by James Baker, whose Carlyle Group made
billions off the Iraq occupation and whose fealty to the
American people has all too often taken a back seat to the
needs and desires of the royal family of Saudi Arabia. These
two, along with Hamilton, have been instrumental in
crafting, by way of the Iraq Survey Group, what by all
accounts will soon be America's foreign policy lynchpin in
Iraq and the Middle East as a whole.


Behind it all is George H.W. Bush, former employee of
Carlyle, who has somehow managed to refashion his reputation
into that of a grandfatherly, level-headed, steady hand, a
foreign policy "realist" whose mere presence will soothe and
calm the troubled waters we sail in. Unfortunately, his
"realism" is a significant reason the United States finds
itself in its current mess - until the Gulf War, Saddam
Hussein was a boon confederate of both the Reagan and Bush
administrations in their fight against Iran - and the team
of experts he has brought with him have done more to
undermine the national security of the country than any
other three people one could name.


The winner in all this, of course, is the Carlyle Group.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times and
internationally bestselling author of two books: War on
Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know and The
Greatest Sedition Is Silence. His newest book, House of Ill
Repute: Reflections on War, Lies, and America's Ravaged
Reputation, will be available this winter from
PoliPointPress
 

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A lot of disgusting facts presented. This is an interesting one:

It must also be noted that Baker's law
firm, Baker Botts, is currently serving as defense counsel
for Saudi Arabia against a suit brought by the families of
9/11 victims.

Based on DTB's tirades against Ramsey Clark, I would assume he would be even more outraged against Baker for this. Right? Please present a good spin on this one.
 

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to the best of my knowledge, all those facts are true, as most of this I have read through other sources. What I like best, is how the Carlyle Group has increased its worth from 12 BILLION, TO OVER 44 BILLION SINCE SEPTEMBER 11TH. About the same time the National debt started to double. Bush Cheney Rumsfeld, all these **** suckers should be hung as traitors.
 

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It's hard to argue against it when the numbers are laid out like that. They've pospered at the expense of the country.
 

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A lot of disgusting facts presented. This is an interesting one:



Based on DTB's tirades against Ramsey Clark, I would assume he would be even more outraged against Baker for this. Right? Please present a good spin on this one.

Smurph i have asked him this very question 15 times and he hasn't answered it once. Maybe you can have some better luck.
 

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to the best of my knowledge, all those facts are true, as most of this I have read through other sources. What I like best, is how the Carlyle Group has increased its worth from 12 BILLION, TO OVER 44 BILLION SINCE SEPTEMBER 11TH. About the same time the National debt started to double. Bush Cheney Rumsfeld, all these **** suckers should be hung as traitors.

I have been screaming about a lot of this stuff for weeks and everyone thinks im out in Pluto somewhere. I even started a post about why should anyone trust this prick Baker or the father. The father has somehow position himself to be this great guy all the sudden when he is as dirty as dirty can be. This is also a major reason i want no part of Hillary. All that budding up around the father that Clinton did makes me worry they got Clinton to bite with them. I could be wrong about that but i also could be right. Now they have Hillary in the President role who knows how powerful these pricks can be. I also said how this Scummy Carlyle group is invested heavily in arms and when you start wars you make huge amounts of money. This is why the republicans are strong in defense. Not for the troops but for their huge pocketbooks.
 
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Smurph You'll have to excuse me --I got as far as Truthout org and quit reading--have spent too much time in past ripping these liberal blogs with split/half quotes--opinionated press with no sources ect

As with this thread will let you -stevie shamrock and sponge carry on your own personal "think tank" via these liberal blogs without further interruption. :)

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Some of its prominent contributors include William Rivers Pitt, Jason Leopold, Scott Galindez David Bacon, Dean Baker, Tom Engelhardt, William Fisher, Dahr Jamail, Ray McGovern, J. Sri Raman, Norman Solomon, David Swanson and James Zogby. The organization has reported extensively on the anti-war movement and helped to put Cindy Sheehan on the map by publishing many of her writings. Focus is also provided to issues concerning the environment, labor, women, health, and voter rights. It's articles are now carried by many international publications including World News , scoop.co.nz/ and California News

The website also has an active blog where visitors can discuss various issues or specific articles.

---in fact I believe these were same kool aiders that said Rove was indicted and still standing by it--
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051306W.shtml
need I say more::mj07:
 
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So you fully support James Baker's law firm defending Saudi Arabia against 9-11 victims. Nice.

Just because something comes from a source you don't like, doesn't always mean it's untrue. But it does provide you with a nice spin-out, an easy way to simply drop out of the conversation and not deal with the issue.
 

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Once again Dogs cannot argue when facts are present. Sponge I agree with you 1,000 percent about Hillary and Bill Clinton. They are just too Chummy with Bush Senior. Also she accepted money from Murdoch. Non of these Neocon creeps are to be trusted.
 

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Dogs,

I really want you to stay on topic here. The subject matter in that article is what's important - not the agenda-driven source. From MSNBC...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3067906/

THE OPENING DEFENSE SALVO in what promises to be a bruising legal battle was fired last week when a trio of lawyers from Baker Botts, a prestigious Houston-based law firm, filed a motion on behalf of Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, the Saudi defense minister. The motion attacked the 9-11 lawsuit as a ?broadside indictment of Saudi government, religion and culture.? It also argued that, as the third-ranking official of a foreign government, their client is immune from any U.S. legal action and that he should therefore be dismissed from the case altogether.

Yeah, I know you still don't like this source, but it's better, right?

The point is the facts anyway. James Baker's law firm is on the side of Saudi Arabia over the 9-11 victims. It's a cut and dry case of taking the money, is it not?

Please give your opinion in that, not on blogs or liberals. Please - it's so hard to set you down and get you to address the actual issue. That's all I ask.

....members of the Saudi royal family and the country?s wealthiest businessmen?many of whom are defendants in the case?have offered up seven-figure retainers to some of the toniest and most politically connected law firms in the country.

Baker Botts, Sultan?s law firm, for example, still boasts former secretary of State James Baker as one of its senior partners. Its recent alumni include Robert Jordan, the former personal lawyer for President Bush who is now U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia.
 
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OK, apparently Wikepedia is on your "Approved Sources" list, otherwise you wouldn't have used them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Botts

Baker Botts
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Baker Botts L.L.P. is a major international law firm of about 700 attorneys, with a long history, significant political connections, and a long list of corporate clients.


[edit] History
The firm traces its history to 1840 in the Republic of Texas, with the beginning of legal practive by founding partner Peter W. Gray. By 1874, the firm was called Gray, Botts & Baker, when Grey left the partnership and the 2 remaining partners, Colonel W.B. Botts and Judge James A. Baker, renamed the firm Baker & Botts. In 2000, the firm renamed itself Baker Botts.

In 1900, Captain James Baker, son of the founder, helped investigate the murder of William Marsh Rice and effect the intent of his will, the establishment of Rice University. The university has maintained ties to Baker Botts since that time.

After leaving public service, James Baker III joined the firm as a senior partner.


[edit] Notable partners and employees
Claude Allen, associate, 1991-1995
James Baker III, senior partner as of 2006
Peter W. Gray, founder, partner, 1840-1874
Joe R. Greenhill, of counsel
Robert Jordan, partner
Thomas Phillips, partner
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Botts"
 

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Once again Dogs cannot argue when facts are present. Sponge I agree with you 1,000 percent about Hillary and Bill Clinton. They are just too Chummy with Bush Senior. Also she accepted money from Murdoch. Non of these Neocon creeps are to be trusted.

Yeah stevie the Murdoch money is another thing that makes you want to scratch your head. I can see it now that simpleton McCain is getting all siked up to run and they are gonna pull the rug out from under him for the tenth time. He is a glutton for punishment which means i don't want a simpleton like him running the country either. Fox news has cut down their heavy criticism of Hillary since Murdoch gave her that money. I like to see Biden get some publicity. If he can make a move than i will re register to a democrat and vote for him in the primaries. If she is in the lead i won't even bother. Another thing that concerns me is the way she never denounces her stand on the war. Is this to get the same simpletons to vote for her like they did for that power hungry prick Liberman?
 
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This is why with Dem's now in charge and have the soprina power. We do need some investigations into some items. If the American people are going to have trust in there government again. And time for congress to finally do it's job. We should have answers.
 

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I think if everyone would do a little research instead of this right vs. left and libs vs conservatives BS........they would realize how Bush SR. has had his input and his people in control since Reagan took office in 1981.......and dont think Bush Sr. had no infuence on Clintons years either..........they appear to be against each other but Bush Sr, Jr......and Bill and Hillary are a lot closer than people realize.............I even think we will never see any real investigations,charges or impeachment proceedings because the Dems now in charge are still on the same team as the former republicans.........people will laugh at this......BUT.......notice how Nancy Pelosi took impeachment proceedings off the table when t was a possibiliy she would become leader of the house.......and now all this talk of "working together" and "forming a working coalition between Dems and Reps".......lovey dovey talk but really no action to speak of............the Dems were doing a lot of talking about this and that before the elections but when it comes to actually achieving some results...........WE SHALL SEE.........
 

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I think if everyone would do a little research instead of this right vs. left and libs vs conservatives BS........they would realize how Bush SR. has had his input and his people in control since Reagan took office in 1981.......and dont think Bush Sr. had no infuence on Clintons years either..........they appear to be against each other but Bush Sr, Jr......and Bill and Hillary are a lot closer than people realize.............I even think we will never see any real investigations,charges or impeachment proceedings because the Dems now in charge are still on the same team as the former republicans.........people will laugh at this......BUT.......notice how Nancy Pelosi took impeachment proceedings off the table when t was a possibiliy she would become leader of the house.......and now all this talk of "working together" and "forming a working coalition between Dems and Reps".......lovey dovey talk but really no action to speak of............the Dems were doing a lot of talking about this and that before the elections but when it comes to actually achieving some results...........WE SHALL SEE.........

Mav, what i dont understand is the dems have been basically ridiculed and embarrassed for six years. Now to drop all investigations and "lets work together bullshit" makes you shake your head. So its either two things. 1. they get fooled time and time again because it was the repulican's who first brought up the notion of the dems tying up everything instead of working for the people when it is all these pricks did with Clinton. Or two these two groups make lovely bed partners. Honestly if you think about it these are not super paying jobs. The job does come with power tho. Lots of power.
 

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Mav, what i dont understand is the dems have been basically ridiculed and embarrassed for six years. Now to drop all investigations and "lets work together bullshit" makes you shake your head. So its either two things. 1. they get fooled time and time again because it was the repulican's who first brought up the notion of the dems tying up everything instead of working for the people when it is all these pricks did with Clinton. Or two these two groups make lovely bed partners. Honestly if you think about it these are not super paying jobs. The job does come with power tho. Lots of power.


You hit it right on the head.........its because the Dems in power have to be very careful what they really investigate because the people they investigate may turn the tables on the ones in power............now you know why they all voted together on so many things like the war,the military tribunals, and the patriot act.........

All the impeachment stuff with Clinton was just for show........in fact if you look at the facts it was some of the republican leaders who called off the dogs and ended that.............

Look at this.......regarding John Conyers

Saturday, while everyone was shopping or watching football or whatever is the current fad for Amurikans, John Conyers, the progressive congressman from Michigan, quietly pulled back the carrot he and the Dems have been holding out for over a year with his announcement that he, as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, will not be seeking impeachment against Bush. The story we are now inundated with is how grand it is that the first black man to ever chair this committee, has finally arrived. What a grand and inclusive country we have.

I can hardly stand it I'm so happy.

For over a year, the Dems and Conyers, personally, have promised impeachment if only Americans would give them another chance in Congress. Only days after the election is over, Conyers and the Dems are giving the millions who just put them in control, a collective frak you (for my BSG fans).

On December 21, 2005 Conyers had this to say,
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on the closing hours of the session over the weekend, I introduced House Resolution 635, which creates a select committee to investigate the administration's intent to go to war...and to make recommendations regarding possible grounds for impeachment.


On November 11, 2006, four days after the midterm election results were in Conyers had this to say,
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Impeachment is off the table

Sorry to be a buzzkill for all the hardcore Democrats that visit this site...actually, I'm not sorry, you guys/gals need to wake the f@ck up and stop playing their game. As is often said the Dems are just one half of the Business Party. This is just yet another in a long line of events that proves it.


So now we have the 2 of the leading Dems....Conyers and Pelosi..........making so much fuss in the past and NOW when they have a little power they dont want to do anything.........

If americans cant see through this charade then they need to wake up......... as you say "these 2 parties make lovely bed partners".......

Think of this possibility.........Hillary wins in 2008 and 2012.........then steps in Jeb Bush for 2016 and 2020..........another 16 years of the past people running things........
 

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You hit it right on the head.........its because the Dems in power have to be very careful what they really investigate because the people they investigate may turn the tables on the ones in power............now you know why they all voted together on so many things like the war,the military tribunals, and the patriot act.........

All the impeachment stuff with Clinton was just for show........in fact if you look at the facts it was some of the republican leaders who called off the dogs and ended that.............

Look at this.......regarding John Conyers

Saturday, while everyone was shopping or watching football or whatever is the current fad for Amurikans, John Conyers, the progressive congressman from Michigan, quietly pulled back the carrot he and the Dems have been holding out for over a year with his announcement that he, as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, will not be seeking impeachment against Bush. The story we are now inundated with is how grand it is that the first black man to ever chair this committee, has finally arrived. What a grand and inclusive country we have.

I can hardly stand it I'm so happy.

For over a year, the Dems and Conyers, personally, have promised impeachment if only Americans would give them another chance in Congress. Only days after the election is over, Conyers and the Dems are giving the millions who just put them in control, a collective frak you (for my BSG fans).

On December 21, 2005 Conyers had this to say,
Quote:
on the closing hours of the session over the weekend, I introduced House Resolution 635, which creates a select committee to investigate the administration's intent to go to war...and to make recommendations regarding possible grounds for impeachment.


On November 11, 2006, four days after the midterm election results were in Conyers had this to say,
Quote:
Impeachment is off the table

Sorry to be a buzzkill for all the hardcore Democrats that visit this site...actually, I'm not sorry, you guys/gals need to wake the f@ck up and stop playing their game. As is often said the Dems are just one half of the Business Party. This is just yet another in a long line of events that proves it.


So now we have the 2 of the leading Dems....Conyers and Pelosi..........making so much fuss in the past and NOW when they have a little power they dont want to do anything.........

If americans cant see through this charade then they need to wake up......... as you say "these 2 parties make lovely bed partners".......

Think of this possibility.........Hillary wins in 2008 and 2012.........then steps in Jeb Bush for 2016 and 2020..........another 16 years of the past people running things........

Im sure people like dtb and garden weasal will call you a conspricacy theorist. This is a code word for "lets stop the debate" They are just to clueless to reconize it. I think George Carlin actually says it best. He says about 400 people actually run this country and we are just living in it. By the way nice stuff
 
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You know the conspiracy talk doesnt bother me in the least.........these are people who are just to lazy or to stupid to look at all the possibilities.........

Are there conspiracies...........sure..........but there are also things that happen that are not conspiracies...........to me its just a matter of checking into things and trying to analyze things for yourself............20 years ago this would be a hard thing to do but today with the internet anyone can study and learn any topic they choose..........


Take the time and look into the events at Waco and Oklahoma City...........I was shocked to hear all of the evidence from citizens, investigative reporters close to both situations and this led me to some research and after this research I realized how much BS we are all fed from the mainstream print and media.......both stories turn out to be completely different from what we all learned in the first place........I choose these 2 instances because the facts are there with both of these events........government coverups......
 
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