why do people hate wal-mart so much?

[Glenn Quagmire]

I can honestly say I've only been in 2 or 3 different Wal-Marts in my life. However, no matter what kind of area it was in, the white trash was there in droves. They're like moths to a flame. I think there are two reasons for that: people with less money go there because they can get good deals, but other people STAY AWAY because they know what the typical clientele is like (as has been mentioned in this thread).

My main reason for avoiding the store is because, as far as I'm concerned, they don't specialize in anything. They have clothes, but they're certainly not the first place I think of when I need to buy clothes. They have groceries, but when I need groceries I just go to a grocery store. They have jewelry, but my girlfriend would kill me in my sleep with a butter knife if she found out I bought her Wal-Mart jewelry. To me Wal-Mart is kind of like asking for Dwight Howard in a trade and being offered Jerome James.

 

[blgstocks]

penn and teller have an episode of bullshit coming up this week and its main topic is walmart

might want to check it out on showtime

 

[bear]

Wal-Mart is the single largest contributor to the growth of Chinese factories and the closure of American factories on the planet.
We cannot compete with near slave labor!!!


bear

 

[ageecee]

Whoa... we certainly don't shop at the same Wal-Marts. The mistreatment of employees notwithstanding, my biggest beef with Wal-Mart has always been the lack of open lines. I can honestly say that on at least 25 different occassions, I've said to myself while in line, "I'm never coming here again," because of having to wait and wait just to buy a couple items. I pretty much had to go after 11 p.m. for it to be otherwise. But it was always the closest store so I kept going back.

Also, this was the case for four different Wal-Marts in three different states. Thankfully I've been able to avoid Wal-Mart since moving here.

You hit the nail on the head.



40 cash registers and only 6 lanes open. Lines backed up 30 feet deep. Simply inexcusable

 

[IntenseOperator]

Everything is cyclical in retail

Walmart's business philosophy is a known commodity. Today, they aren't doing anything different than most retailers out there. There growth is not in existing markets but in new ones. They can't build stores forever to show growth. It doesn't work that way. There are whole new chains of retailers already taking massive chunks of Walmart's demographic away by selling even shittier Chinese crap at lower prices (I saw Jaek at my local Family Dollar buying pens yesterday). They don't just shit on their suppliers, they clean them out of all they can and then throw them to the side of the road.

Not today or tomorrow or even in the next ten years, but Walmart will go the way of the Dodo bird no matter how much the population of Indiana loves them.

The only thing Walmart fears today is Target. And they should. Target has a customer base with an income double that of Walmart customers. They get higher profit margins on better quality items that they sell to a consumer that always has money and is willing to pay more for better quality all while getting the high traffic volume.

In short, Walmart is currently getting hit from the bottom of the food chain and especially from the top. It's a matter of time.

Let me also add that you never hear Target taking the quantity of bad public hits media wise that Walmart takes on a constant basis. Image is going to shit slowly.

 

[IntenseOperator]

for what it's worth.....

heard on some early morning business radio show that the US has double the retail footage needed for the population. Some pencil pushers somewhere know how much retail space in a given area will adequately supply a population. Somethings got to give sooner or later. They have been closing grocery stores down in the Chicago market for a number of years and many more expected soon. Expect to see some big chains and many malls taking a dive. Hope this is the end to a strip mall on every corner. Ugly crappy eye sores those are. They also do nothing but bring a bad element into what was once a nice area. I have never eaten at a buffet style joint in a strip mall and I don't ever plan on doing so.

Of course those businesses hire societies lame asses so I guess they serve the same filtering purpose as Walmart. Better those fine skilled staff working at Walmart than working for me.

 

[3 Seconds]

I can honestly say, I have never been in a Wal-Mart.

 

[hsams]

Walmart is a evil, vile corporation----they have put more people out of work than any other corporation in US history-fact......they sell more foreign merchandise by % than all other comparable corps-fact......they have been proven racist in coursts of law all over the country-fact....When the Walton family farts the stock market reels for a week--take it from a stockbroker(me) that is no good!!

 

[Agent 0659]

Any other problems we can solve for you Jackson?

:shrug:

 

[fatdaddycool]

The whole issue on why Walmart is in lime light it is they won't unionize--might be why you have all the political hoopla from side that unions give financial support to--ya think.

DTB,
That may be the MOST IRRESPONSIBLE statement I have ever read. I am what many may consider to be a very high ranking official in a very large trade union. I work very closely with many of our legislative directors. Exactly how much money do you think us unions pour into Capitol Hill in an effort to stimulate WalMart propaganda? The AFL-CIO unions have never held a card drive at Wm, nor have we tried to actively organize them. I am speaking for all AFL-CIO unions which is the majority. We don't pay money to anyone for propaganda and absolutely nobody whatsoever in Congress has anything at all to do with whether or not WM is unionized. Thats simply idiotic.
Let me assure you that any of the donations that are made to a political candidate are raised with the intent to improve working conditions for union workers, such as eliminating the ability for companies to abrogate their pensions to the PBGC when in bankruptcy and then allowed, by law of course, to exit out of bankruptcy and still have no physical pensionable liability to the workforce, thereby giving them a distinct financial advantage over companies that didn't take that way out. In case you don't know the PBGC is Tax dollar funded and you are paying the pensions of hundreds of thousands of retired employees through your tax dollars...............do you know who or what corporation spearheaded the abrogation bill? I know you don't but I will tell you, Wal Mart. I, we, all of us put together do not donate one tenth of what WM and other large retail corporations do to political funds. Us union guys, that know what the hell we're talking about, could care less if WM unionizes or whether or not they like unions. They do not supply our membership with anything including good paying jobs.

To say that the union backed incumbents are basically the cause is absolutely ridiculous and ignorant.

 

[hawkeye]

People protest against them and everything but the minute they open the parking lot is full. When they open up in out of the way places they are really needed so people don't have to drive 50 miles to astore, etc.

 

[MadJack]

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[The Sponge]

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:142smilie

 

[The Sponge]

DTB,
That may be the MOST IRRESPONSIBLE statement I have ever read. I am what many may consider to be a very high ranking official in a very large trade union. I work very closely with many of our legislative directors. Exactly how much money do you think us unions pour into Capitol Hill in an effort to stimulate WalMart propaganda? The AFL-CIO unions have never held a card drive at Wm, nor have we tried to actively organize them. I am speaking for all AFL-CIO unions which is the majority. We don't pay money to anyone for propaganda and absolutely nobody whatsoever in Congress has anything at all to do with whether or not WM is unionized. Thats simply idiotic.
Let me assure you that any of the donations that are made to a political candidate are raised with the intent to improve working conditions for union workers, such as eliminating the ability for companies to abrogate their pensions to the PBGC when in bankruptcy and then allowed, by law of course, to exit out of bankruptcy and still have no physical pensionable liability to the workforce, thereby giving them a distinct financial advantage over companies that didn't take that way out. In case you don't know the PBGC is Tax dollar funded and you are paying the pensions of hundreds of thousands of retired employees through your tax dollars...............do you know who or what corporation spearheaded the abrogation bill? I know you don't but I will tell you, Wal Mart. I, we, all of us put together do not donate one tenth of what WM and other large retail corporations do to political funds. Us union guys, that know what the hell we're talking about, could care less if WM unionizes or whether or not they like unions. They do not supply our membership with anything including good paying jobs.

To say that the union backed incumbents are basically the cause is absolutely ridiculous and ignorant.

Welcome to the world of DTB. He has billion dollar views but a middle class pocketbook. By the way those dues we use for pac is money well spent. Don't let Fox news think this tho. I saw a commercial where they dug up two unsatisfied union workers complaining about this practice. I doubt they were even union. Guys like DTB would like it if Unions had no backers so we can all make ten cents an hour.

 

[Penguinfan]

Let me assure you that any of the donations that are made to a political candidate are raised with the intent to improve working conditions for union workers,

Speaking of irresposible statements!

If you don't mind, since your such a high ranking union guy, can I have my $600 (after taxes) back that I have no choice but to pay each year?

Of course, if you really are a high ranking union official you probably don't think $600 should matter much since it's probably only half a month's car payment for you, you know, the car us working folk pay for.

Joke.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

quote hsamsWalmart is a evil, vile corporation----they have put more people out of work than any other corporation in US history-fact......

The actual FACT is the U.S. largest employer----doesn't that mean they put more people to work than anyone:shrug:

FDC a copuple questions please--
Your Union may not--what about unions in general?

Which party do unions support with union dues?

If you have 100,000 workers and 50% vote the other way--why are they forced to have their dues support the other party?

Don't get me wrong--I'm not against unions--I'm trying to tie in why the dogging of walmart and whose behind it.

You see I have hard time understand those so adamantly against Walmart.

You have
--largest employer in U.S.

--largest retailer in the world (must be doing something right)

--Most charitable Corp in U.S.
"America?s Largest Corporate Cash Contributor
"Last year Wal-Mart was recognized by the Chronicle of Philanthropy as the largest corporate cash contributor in America. In 2006, Wal-Mart gave more than $270 million to support its 4,000-plus U.S.-based communities. Charitable contributions from Wal-Mart support a variety of causes and issues in the areas of education, the environment, health and human services, civic and community groups, and culture and the arts."

---and by far the most shopped store in America--so might add a "little" customer satisfaction.

so I'm confused why others pick on this store--

---and amazing those lauding Target over Walmart--you might find this article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune of interest.
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/walmart/2005/target_better.php

Believe you will find Walmart has higher pay and benefits.

--and one more question--if I'm wrong about the dogging being from unions/Dem party--why is it the king dogger of all Wake-Up Walmart is hidden in what sounds like a real org but actual is funded by UFCW union and Paul Blank,who was former politacal directer of Howard"screamin" Dean.
Why try to hide it:shrug:

I would be curious on your perspective on article link FDC--and if you think its credible or bogus and why.

 

[IntenseOperator]

I'm not very computer litereet......

maybe somebody can check out Costco's growth and expansion numbers

like a freaking weed!

(Boyz you owe me a sawbuck)

 

[IntenseOperator]

Any other problems we can solve for you Jackson?

:shrug:

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[fatdaddycool]

Speaking of irresposible statements!

If you don't mind, since your such a high ranking union guy, can I have my $600 (after taxes) back that I have no choice but to pay each year?

Of course, if you really are a high ranking union official you probably don't think $600 should matter much since it's probably only half a month's car payment for you, you know, the car us working folk pay for.

Joke.

Hey flightless bird fan,

Earlier in another post you posted the following directly to me;

Here's what I expect to see when you post:






THIS MESSAGE IS HIDDEN BECAUSE FDC IS ON YOUR IGNORE LIST
__________________
"I'll sleep when I'm dead"---Warren Zevon

So at which point are you lying now or then ..............Liar. Thank you for speaking...........for a minute I just thought you were a complete idiot, thank goodness you finally removed any doubt for everybody...........liar.

Answering your question though Liar, I do not get a car allowance I bought my vehicle from Five Star Ford in October of last year. Also I have worked for twenty years in this profession and have just recently ascended to the rank of International Representative of more than 93,000 members. Funny thing is liar, I was elected at large to that position with a majority vote of just shy of 89% with a no show factor of 4% so I am not only proud of that, as I should be, but I am also proud of the sparkling track record that I provided in arbitration cases.
So in closing let me assure you of some things. One, we have already established that you are a liar and that leaves you absolutely zero right to question my integrity concerning business matters. Mostly because you are a liar.

Two, I still work and have done so for close to thirty years so, I am happy that you were able to secure some sort of union job somewhere that certainly pays you far more than a normal miserable fuhkin lying wretch would get paid.

If you would ever like to compare credentials and anything else for that matter you just let me know. I am positively sure that you get sick time, I mean after all, you are union, right?

Just one more thing "Clerical Workers"? Certainly not an AFL-CIO union.

 

[shamrock]

dogs, honestly who cares if your the nations largest employer of $8 dollar shitty jobs?


Wal-Mart benefits


http://www.democraticwings.com/democraticwings/archives/womens_rights/001318.php