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The more traditional rental business was too late to the streaming video party.

Constant evolution and increased device support allowed red envelopes to trounce blue snapcases.

At this point, no one would confuse the winner of the 13-year Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX) versus Blockbuster (NYSE: BBI) war. One continues to grow as the other attempts one last-ditch effort after another. But last week, as Netflix reported its first-quarter earnings and Blockbuster continues to shutter locations and flirt with Chapter 11 -- despite a recent sharp uptick in the market -- the online retailer delivered news indicating that it not only won the war, but it's delivered a flaming bag of Wild Wild West VHS tapes on Blockbuster's doorstep.

Netflix finished up a stupendous quarter, earning $0.59 per share -- topping Wall Street targets by a nickel. The retailer gained a record 1.7 million new subscribers and closed out the three-month period with almost 14 million customers. Revenue for that quarter neared $500 million and represented a 25% year-over-year growth. Churn rate dropped, gross margin grew, and the company projects a stronger second quarter.

In a press release, CEO Reed Hastings referenced one of the main factors to its success. He said, "It is clear that our performance, and the overall appeal of the Netflix service, is being driven by subscribers watching instantly. On that score, we reached a milestone in the quarter as more than half of all members -- 55% and growing -- enjoyed movies and TV episodes streamed from Netflix over the Internet."

Yes, 55% of Netflix subscribers have watched more than 15 minutes of content streamed to their computer or Netflix-supported device. And the number of those devices continues to grow. The retailer has only recently added the Nintendo Wii and its 30 million American users to the fray, but its service is also compatible with the Xbox 360 (Nasdaq: MSFT), PlayStation 3 (NYSE: SNE), TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO), and decks from Panasonic (NYSE: PC), Insignia, and Seagate (Nasdaq: STX). Also, along with the highly anticipated Boxee Box, Netflix aims to add support to Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL), Android, and Windows 7 mobile devices.

That means Netflix's Instant Streaming will become more ubiquitous than it already is. In fact, the company doesn't see its chief competition coming from Redbox (Nasdaq: CSTR), Amazon (Nasdaq: AMZN), or Blockbuster, but from the advances in on-demand services from cable. According to Ryan Lawler of GigaOM, Hastings said during the earnings call, "There are a lot of competitive threats? But cable, satellite, and telcos improving their products is probably the biggest threat."

It's the at-home streaming aspect that's Netflix's bread and butter. Already two steps behind the tastes of the home viewer, Blockbuster stumbled so late to the video streaming game that Netflix had already commanded the service with dependability and name recognition -- giving it a lead that Blockbuster could never reach. Especially when the latter brings back late fees and sets up rental kiosks using SD cards rather than discs.

Netflix's image may have taken a hit with recent class action suits alleging privacy invasion and a scheme to restrain trade, but the service remains very popular. Even with titles from Warner Bros. (NYSE: TWX), Fox (Nasdaq: NWS), and Universal (NYSE: GE) being held 28 days after release, it's unlikely customers will cancel their subscriptions over the matter. If anything, it'll only hurt the studios
 

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KeGray Preemptive post: NOBODY WANTS TO WAIT TWO MONTHS FOR NEW RELEASES. NOBODY!

Sorry Netflix - :sadwave:

Bye bye! :sadwave:

You're done Netflix - :sadwave:

I am off to rent Granny Treats!
 

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Netflix's image may have taken a hit with recent class action suits alleging privacy invasion and a scheme to restrain trade, but the service remains very popular. Even with titles from Warner Bros. (NYSE: TWX), Fox (Nasdaq: NWS), and Universal (NYSE: GE) being held 28 days after release, it's unlikely customers will cancel their subscriptions over the matter. If anything, it'll only hurt the studios

This is the most foolish line ever. The studios are getting more sales revenue,more on demand return,and still charging near full retail to Netflix and Redbox after 28 days.


Why don't you watch Avatar tonight through Netflix.
Oh wait, you can't.
Avatar is already in profit mode for me and they don't even have it yet.

I will say the 28 day window doesn't hurt Netflix near as much as Redbox. Netflix has a huge catalog of titles and Redbox is limited to what they can fit in machine.


In about 2 weeks it won't matter to me though. The landlord wants to go up on my rent and a guy has made me an offer for the business and I am not gonna pass it up. He is offering me almost double what I feel it is worth.
 

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Why don't you watch Avatar tonight through Netflix.
Oh wait, you can't.
Avatar is already in profit mode for me and they don't even have it yet.



Glad Avatar is working out for you.

I will watch Avatar, but what do I care if I watch it this week, or next year. I have 2 small children and an active social life. My calender is full, and movies are way down on my priority list.

4 week delays in movie releases are obviously of concern to a far smaller segment of the population than you would like to think. You have repeatedly made your case against Netflix, but the numbers clearly indicate that the Netflix model is far more effective than the video store and kiosk models.

Anyway, I, too, would take the deal for your store at nearly 200% of value. I hope it works out that way, and I wish you good fortune in your next venture.....:toast:
 

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Thanks, it is all but a done deal. My customers are in for a shock because he is buying store and moving it to Lake Jackson. I am going on about a 6-8 month break from working.

I agree Netflix is the dominating model and the delay doesn't seem to be hitting them, but Redbox focus is about 80% focused on new titles and they are planted right next to places that have movies they don't.

The sad thing is Blockbuster normally would be POUNDING commercials(like the old days) about how Netflix doesn't have the new titles, but they are flat broke.
 

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In kegray's defense, I would guess that most people who go to the video store probably rent new releases. I think a lot of that is due to limited selection, though. The movie selection in a lot of these places seems to be Avatar or Mrs. Doubtfire, so it makes the selection pretty easy. I actually don't watch very many new releases through Netflix, but when I used to rent from the video store I rented mostly new releases.

In other news, you can now watch movies and TV shows through your Wii with Netflix. They're going to take over the world here pretty soon. :0corn
 

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Most that use Redbox or a brick and mortar store are looking for the hot new titles or in our stores case porn.

I think the biggest market is for those last minute lets watch a movie tonight people.
Netflix is a huge bonus to some and Netflix takes advantage of others lack of watching habits.
I went to friends house a few weeks ago across town and he had 2 Netflix dvds on the table. Just went the other day and he had the same 2 dvds still sitting there. He said he just hasn't had time for movies. Now he is out of town for 2 weeks.

Netflix loves this type of guy.
 

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Most that use Redbox or a brick and mortar store are looking for the hot new titles or in our stores case porn.

I think the biggest market is for those last minute lets watch a movie tonight people.
Netflix is a huge bonus to some and Netflix takes advantage of others lack of watching habits.
I went to friends house a few weeks ago across town and he had 2 Netflix dvds on the table. Just went the other day and he had the same 2 dvds still sitting there. He said he just hasn't had time for movies. Now he is out of town for 2 weeks.

Netflix loves this type of guy.

Yeah, there are definitely people that slack when it comes to watching their DVDs. That's also one of the beauties of Netflix, though -- you don't get charged late fees and the monthly fees are so low that it isn't really a big deal if you don't watch that much (especially if you do the one DVD deal, which I think is $8 a month).

The one negative I will say about Netflix, and you may have heard this rumor, is that if you watch a ton of movies used to intentionally slow down your mailings. When I first signed up I was sometimes watching 2 DVDs a day, and I noticed that there was sometimes an added day before I got my next DVDs (which was ridiculous, because the mailing center for Netflix here in WA is about 40 minutes south of where I live). If you do a search for this on Google you will see others bitching about it. Having said that, I don't think they still do it. That was 3 or 4 years ago and it hasn't happened to me since.
 

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I went to friends house a few weeks ago across town and he had 2 Netflix dvds on the table. Just went the other day and he had the same 2 dvds still sitting there. He said he just hasn't had time for movies. Now he is out of town for 2 weeks.

Netflix loves this type of guy.

They must love me!!
 

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Wouldn't it save them a lot of money if they made all of their titles available for instant watching? They would save the postage and wouldn't need as many hard copies in inventory.
 

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Last movie I rented from netflix was blazing saddles....

I love this freakin' scene.......

Dude from Carol Burnet show: Qualifications?
Outlaw: Rape, murder, arson and rape
Dude from Carol Burnet show: You said rape twice....
Outlaw: I like rape
 

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Wouldn't it save them a lot of money if they made all of their titles available for instant watching? They would save the postage and wouldn't need as many hard copies in inventory.

They get kickbacks from the USPS to not have all the titles available online. :SIB
 

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It is sad. The industry is changing, but there is always room for the people who have initative. I actually cancelled my netflix cause I found a cool rental store close by that has alot of foriegn movies, $1 rentals and yes, porn. I think if a rental store is to survive, its through niche appeal like foreign, viedoe games or porn. I am a big fan of all by the way. Bring me your best foriegn porn video game immediately! :00hour

BTW, Gray, if you read this, enter my god damn world cup pool. I'm all alone for gods sake.
 

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BTW, Gray, if you read this, enter my god damn world cup pool. I'm all alone for gods sake.

Will do and I will bring Bread and Neil to the table as well.
Kickserv should be game as well.

Where is the link??
 
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Kegray - I totally understand your customer base - not wanting to wait for new releases when they can rent them from you now. I think most guys on here, including me don't care too much about the wait. Mostly, I just like busting your horns.

GL with the business. It is a fun one.
 
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