buying a new car(or trying to)

[gardenweasel]

am involved in an internet negotiation for an acura tsx....was quoted a price of $25,600......

then i had the temerity to ask for a quote that included taxes,tags,title,add-ons and any other dealer fees....

the back and forth was immediate....this question seems to have caused a delay in negotiations....lol

 

[gardenweasel]

now i know why there was a delay....

"out the door" price was $28,360.92 !!...around $2800 extra.....sales tax was around $1500....i figure freight maybe a fin....registration title and plate transfer maybe 250....

:nooo: all these other fees are bullshit...

 

[vinnie]

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Berman has a one bedroom condo in one of these areas with a listing price of $15,000. He said it needs a little work, and it's in a community that doesn't allow you to rent out the property,, but still, $15,000?

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[gardenweasel]

the guy told me the destination fee was roughly a grand....that seems a bit high to me....and i know these s.o.b.`s get a hold back of around 3% from the manufacturer that`s released to them after a sale....

tough business...

i hear the new malibus are fairly nice...and much cheaper...

 

[pel7]

That TSX is a pretty sweet car.I have a 3.2TL and it has been a great car.

 

[Dead Money]

not a bad deal wease

not a bad deal wease

My 2006 was 28,200 out the door..

The 2010 has a better layout and better torque curve, all the first year issues have been resolved on the 2010 (2008-2009 model change)

The 2011 is going to have a sports wagon version....supposedly.

The engine and tranny is bullet proof....I plan on keeping mine till it falls apart..sweet ride and great gas mileage.

No more 2010's are being produced till 2011 changes if any.
Maybe you can score a DEMO? or a low mileage 2009?

 

[gardenweasel]

i like the car.....the interior is pretty much breathtaking...looks like an airplane cockpit...

http://www.acura.com/Interior360.aspx?model=TSX&modelYear=2010

 

[Dead Money]

changes for 2011

changes for 2011

i like the car.....the interior is pretty much breathtaking...looks like an airplane cockpit...


Originally Posted by DJMD
2011 TSX info from the Summer 2010 edition of Acura Style magazine:

"Acura fans familiar with the TSX will immediately notice the 2011 edition's new wheels, crisper front fascia (including a new grille and front-bumper design) and revised rear taillights. Two new exterior colors join the range as well: Gray Metallic and Silver Metallic. In its accommodating but businesslike cockpit, the base TSX adds new wood trim on the center console and, sure to please passengers riding in back, rear air-conditioning vents. The TSX with Technology Package includes even more, such as metal trim on the center console and a revised navigation system, as well as a Hard Disk Drive (HDD) that stores both navigation data and digital music files (the drive replaces the previous six-disc CD changer)."

 

[Cie]

You can save 30% buying a used vehicle in excellent condition, plus you lose the fees except T, T & L

 

[dogface]

i hear the new malibus are fairly nice...and much cheaper...

I have 48k on mine already (2009) and absolutely love it! LTZ, loaded just no sunroof! Nice, everything still tight, leather (two-tone) holding up well!

I highly recommend so far!!


dogface


PS: I have recv'd numerous comments at gas stations, parking lots etc., where people have come over to look at the car, and ask what it is. I have the black metallic paint, but it is eye catching.

 

[gardenweasel]

You can save 30% buying a used vehicle in excellent condition, plus you lose the fees except T, T & L

yeah,but you just don`t know what you`re getting...what underlying issues are gonna cause you heartaches down the road...with a newbie(in exchange for roughly 50% immediate depreciation:0008 ),you get a 4 year 50k mile warranty....

it`s strange...the fricking alero ignition/passkey issue might be resolved....

when i put the key in the ignition,instead of just turning it on or moving it to ACC(like i was) i turn rhe key one more position to ON...i hesitate before engaging it in the START position....

when i hit the ON position and stop(or just pause a beat before engaging the ignition),i hear a hum inside the dashboard.....every time....and every time i hear that hum,the mofo starts right up.....

sometimes i can start it right up from OFF....but it`s hit or miss.....and sometimes it can take a long time fooling with it to get it to start...occasionally,it just has to sit for a good long time...and that`s very f-cking aggravating...especially when you travel in inner city neighborhoods on a regular basis...

now,every time i turn the key to ON and hesitate(there goes the hum),it starts like new....

it`s a very nice car...all leather,electric seats,two-way sunroof....fog lights,am-fm/cd w/ nice speaker system....rear window defrost...sporty alloy wheels...spoiler....

honestly,its a good looking little car... with a mofo of a powerful 6 cyl engine.....

if it just keeps starting like it`s supposed to,i`ll keep my $28,300 in my pocket....

btw....i was doing serious research on the net...trying to get a handle on what kind of deal i was getting from my acura dealer.......and it`s not a bad deal....the destination charge is legit($860)...and the same price i saw quoted in two forums(w/destination and before taxes/tags/title) was what my dealer was offering(roughly $26,4 & change)....

so they weren`t screwing me....

i`m beginning to believe that theres actually very little bargaining(at least downward) beyond what they offer....from what i`ve seen on the net,their baseline offer (at least to me over the net) was as low as they usually go....

and i appreciate that....

if the alero reverts back to shitty form,i`ll revisit the tsx....

i would recommend anyone shopping for a new car to make their first contact via the internet....seems to cut through much of the bullshit...

 

[layinwood]

GW, you should check out Copart.com.

A friend of mine just got me on it. You can find companies on there that will let you bid on any auction you want. You do all the bidding online. The guy I'm using is charging me 200 which is a good deal. I've been looking for a second car to toy around in. I almost bid on one today and it was about half of what I've been seeing from dealers.

I did see a 10 tsx with 10700 miles on it that is going up tomorrow. The ACV is listed at 27k but I'm guessing it goes somewhere south of 21k. You still have a warrantee so there's not much risk.

 

[gardenweasel]

GW, you should check out Copart.com.

A friend of mine just got me on it. You can find companies on there that will let you bid on any auction you want. You do all the bidding online. The guy I'm using is charging me 200 which is a good deal. I've been looking for a second car to toy around in. I almost bid on one today and it was about half of what I've been seeing from dealers.

I did see a 10 tsx with 10700 miles on it that is going up tomorrow. The ACV is listed at 27k but I'm guessing it goes somewhere south of 21k. You still have a warrantee so there's not much risk.

i could never do that sight unseen,layin`....at least looking on the net with a local dealer,i get to lay hands and eyes on what i`m buying....

i could never spend that kind of money from afar...:shrug:

i`m old school...

 

[layinwood]

GW, you've already laid your hands on one. There all the same when they're that new and have the same features. It has a lot of pics of the exterior and interior. You can pay a small amount of money to have a professional inspector look it over for you. It really is a great way to go, especially for one that you'll get the full warrantee on. Why no if you could save 4 or 5k or more.


LOL, I understand and to be honest I probably wouldn't do it for my main car but since this is just for a toying car around then it's not as big of a deal to me.

 

[gardenweasel]

GW, you've already laid your hands on one. There all the same when they're that new and have the same features. It has a lot of pics of the exterior and interior. You can pay a small amount of money to have a professional inspector look it over for you. It really is a great way to go, especially for one that you'll get the full warrantee on. Why no if you could save 4 or 5k or more.


LOL, I understand and to be honest I probably wouldn't do it for my main car but since this is just for a toying car around then it's not as big of a deal to me.

g.l.,my brother...i hope you find a peach....let us know how it goes when you find something....

 

[gardenweasel]

trying to bait the hook...:0008

my last correspondence to the acura rep....

""as i indicated,we`re still a little off(not that much) on what i want to spend..you`ve hit your best price on the first go-round so.i`m thinking that i might wait for the 2011`s to hit the market and see if maybe we can save several hundred on last year`s model...

if we can`t find some common ground at that time,i may have to consider a buick or a vw......

you`ve been much help...and i appreciate your corresponding with me via the internet...ashamed we hit a snag....but if i don`t do something somewhere else before the 2011`s come out,maybe we can revisit the negotiation....

love the tsx`s...great vehicle...

thanks again...""


:SIB :142smilie

 

[layinwood]

The 2010 tsx went for 19100. For only 10k miles on it that's a pretty damn good deal. You still have a lot of warrantee left on that car.

 

[gardenweasel]

The 2010 tsx went for 19100. For only 10k miles on it that's a pretty damn good deal. You still have a lot of warrantee left on that car.

wonder why someone would sell a brand new tsx with 10 k miles on it?.....and basically give away almost 10 grand?

that`s what i would question... :shrug:

 

[MadJack]

wonder why someone would sell a brand new tsx with 10 k miles on it?.....and basically give away almost 10 grand?

that`s what i would question... :shrug:

It may have been a rental car :shrug:

 

[layinwood]

REPO, a lot of these cars are.