Conference final games

boomer1

Registered User
Forum Member
Feb 27, 2008
3,738
1,214
113
Birmingham Al
Watch Alabama crush OU. No one will ever be Saban but DeBlower needs to go. Do you like him? Do you think he’s worthy of wearing the Crimson? GL as always.
I’m not qualify to make a call on the coaching situation. There is so many layers to those decisions and I’m just a casual. I want to like him. He’s won everywhere he’s been, but there’s just no intensity. Saban would have overtime contingencies for Mercer! 😂 Like you said earlier, those days are gone. I’m gonna enjoy these playoffs no matter who is in them!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: T and MadJack

LonghornMM

Registered User
Forum Member
Oct 30, 2003
4,682
371
83
Deer Park, TX
Watch Alabama crush OU. No one will ever be Saban but DeBlower needs to go. Do you like him? Do you think he’s worthy of wearing the Crimson? GL as always.

Whoever wins between Alabama and OU will get beat in the next round. Both teams aren't all that good and certainly aren't in the upper eshelon this year.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jord20

T

Registered
Forum Member
Sep 1, 2012
10,580
1,196
113
I’m not qualify to make a call on the coaching situation. There is so many layers to those decisions and I’m just a casual. I want to like him. He’s won everywhere he’s been, but there’s just no intensity. Saban would have overtime contingencies for Mercer! 😂 Like you said earlier, those days are gone. I’m gonna enjoy these playoffs no matter who is in them!!
Damn you nailed it! ZERO INTENSITY in this coach or team. Saban had any player playing at an ELITE level.
 

Jord20

Sharp
Forum Member
Jun 27, 2002
45,850
7,588
113
Chicago, IL
Bama beating an Oklahoma team with zero offense that the Irish would be a 6 point favorite over will prove absolutely nothing. If they had a different name on the Jersey, they wouldn’t be here
 
  • Like
Reactions: redsfann

boomer1

Registered User
Forum Member
Feb 27, 2008
3,738
1,214
113
Birmingham Al
Bama beating an Oklahoma team with zero offense that the Irish would be a 6 point favorite over will prove absolutely nothing. If they had a different name on the Jersey, they wouldn’t be here
Yeah Bama sux ass but they’re a pickem AT Oklahoma that you say has zero offense. Then maybe it’s Oklahoma we should be discussing shouldn’t be there? Who is there best win? Alabama 😂 ? Anyway you were -22,000x in college foots this year and I was in the red as well, so we may not be the best two to determine who’s good or bad and who should be in or out 😂. I say that tongue in cheek of course. We both have been here for a while and I have much respect for you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rocky mountain

Goldylock$

Registered
Forum Member
Jun 2, 2022
2,115
1,165
113
Panhandle FL
Yeah Bama sux ass but they’re a pickem AT Oklahoma that you say has zero offense. Then maybe it’s Oklahoma we should be discussing shouldn’t be there? Who is there best win? Alabama 😂 ? Anyway you were -22,000x in college foots this year and I was in the red as well, so we may not be the best two to determine who’s good or bad and who should be in or out 😂. I say that tongue in cheek of course. We both have been here for a while and I have much respect for you.
Boomer fired up, we even got the TIDE logo back! Ha!
 
  • Haha
Reactions: OtroPex

Jord20

Sharp
Forum Member
Jun 27, 2002
45,850
7,588
113
Chicago, IL
Yeah Bama sux ass but they’re a pickem AT Oklahoma that you say has zero offense. Then maybe it’s Oklahoma we should be discussing shouldn’t be there? Who is there best win? Alabama 😂 ? Anyway you were -22,000x in college foots this year and I was in the red as well, so we may not be the best two to determine who’s good or bad and who should be in or out 😂. I say that tongue in cheek of course. We both have been here for a while and I have much respect for you.
Oklahoma being out would be fine with me. I actually love Bama in that game. Still means nothing to me about who should be in.

Nah - 1 year record has zero do to with knowledge.
 
  • Like
Reactions: boomer1

Smitty

Registered User
Forum Member
Jan 5, 2005
7,554
2,124
113
Upstate NY
Bama beating an Oklahoma team with zero offense that the Irish would be a 6 point favorite over will prove absolutely nothing. If they had a different name on the Jersey, they wouldn’t be here
c'mon, jord, you gotta be kidding. sure, alabama ain't what they were a few years ago, but to say they don't belong in the playoff this year is foolish.

they went 7-1 in the best conference in the country (you're not going to argue THAT, are you?)

yup, they lost to what turned out to be a crappy FSU team in the season opener, when simpson was making his first start.

and, yup, they lost at home to a decent OK team. the sooners offense may be shit, but their defense is pretty good. and alabama dominated that game (406 yards vs 212, 23 first downs vs 12, 9 minute edge in TOP). but they gave up a 42-yard punt return, setting up OK's opening FG. then OK had a pick-6. then alabama fumbled a punt, leading to OK's 2nd TD. later, alabama had a 36-yard fg blocked. and, finally, alabama fumbled at their own 28, leading to OK's go-ahead fg. sometimes a team dominates a game, but loses because of a few bad bounces. that was clearly the case here. OK had one drive over 40 yards the entire game.

you seem to conveniently forget that they won AT georgia. never trailed in that game, in fact.

do you think they should be punished for an awful performance in the SEC Championship game, when ND was sitting at home?

both teams were 10-2 in the regular season. alabama did that against the 6th-toughest schedule. ND had, if i recall correctly, the 44th-toughest.

at one point, alabama won 4 straight against ranked opponents. ND played 4 ranked teams all year (2-2).

you can definitely make the argument that ND should be in the playoff. but over alabama? get real with that nonsense.
 
  • Like
Reactions: rocky mountain

boomer1

Registered User
Forum Member
Feb 27, 2008
3,738
1,214
113
Birmingham Al
Boomer fired up, we even got the TIDE logo back! Ha!
😂😂 nah man! I’m just having fun. If you really knew how little Alabama football worried me you would understand. And Jord has forgot more about football handicapping than I’ll ever know. I follow him over my own plays most of the time 😂. This is my off season and well, I have the time 🤣
 
  • Like
Reactions: Goldylock$

TurdofDoom

Registered
Forum Member
Mar 1, 2019
783
382
63
Merica
ND resume highlights…
10 point win over USC
Doubled up Pitt
3 TD win over Smurf turf

Alabama
Win @ Georgia
double up Vandy
win @ Misery
3 score win over Tenn

Oklahoma
double up Michigan
win @ Tenn
win @ Bama
handled Misery

ND has to step up that schedule.
 

Smitty

Registered User
Forum Member
Jan 5, 2005
7,554
2,124
113
Upstate NY
that's hilarious.

only problem... if they're now guaranteed a playoff berth if they're in the top 12... then not facing any real competition will guarantee they are in the top 12.

how the fuck does ND get THAT deal? all the people whining about alabama getting preferential treatment... why aren't they upset with this ND deal? it puts in writing the exact favoritism they are accusing alabama of getting.

talk about preferential treatment due to the name on your jerseys.... holy shit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bevo_one

rocky mountain

Registered User
Forum Member
Sep 24, 2005
7,876
2,065
113
c'mon, jord, you gotta be kidding. sure, alabama ain't what they were a few years ago, but to say they don't belong in the playoff this year is foolish.

they went 7-1 in the best conference in the country (you're not going to argue THAT, are you?)

yup, they lost to what turned out to be a crappy FSU team in the season opener, when simpson was making his first start.

and, yup, they lost at home to a decent OK team. the sooners offense may be shit, but their defense is pretty good. and alabama dominated that game (406 yards vs 212, 23 first downs vs 12, 9 minute edge in TOP). but they gave up a 42-yard punt return, setting up OK's opening FG. then OK had a pick-6. then alabama fumbled a punt, leading to OK's 2nd TD. later, alabama had a 36-yard fg blocked. and, finally, alabama fumbled at their own 28, leading to OK's go-ahead fg. sometimes a team dominates a game, but loses because of a few bad bounces. that was clearly the case here. OK had one drive over 40 yards the entire game.

you seem to conveniently forget that they won AT georgia. never trailed in that game, in fact.

do you think they should be punished for an awful performance in the SEC Championship game, when ND was sitting at home?

both teams were 10-2 in the regular season. alabama did that against the 6th-toughest schedule. ND had, if i recall correctly, the 44th-toughest.

at one point, alabama won 4 straight against ranked opponents. ND played 4 ranked teams all year (2-2).

you can definitely make the argument that ND should be in the playoff. but over alabama? get real with that nonsense.
Smitty breaks down the specifics like nobody's business!!!
 

Smitty

Registered User
Forum Member
Jan 5, 2005
7,554
2,124
113
Upstate NY
Smitty breaks down the specifics like nobody's business!!!
i'm always down for a good debate. :)

obviously i respect the hell out of jord, but i find it hard to believe he honestly thinks alabama doesn't belong in the playoff. maybe he's a ND fan? or there's some inherent bias? i understand why people are sick of alabama. and the SEC in general. but no other conference is currently even close to the SEC in talent from top to bottom.
 

rob22278

Registered
Forum Member
Sep 9, 2006
100
58
28
New Orleans
i'm always down for a good debate. :)

obviously i respect the hell out of jord, but i find it hard to believe he honestly thinks alabama doesn't belong in the playoff. maybe he's a ND fan? or there's some inherent bias? i understand why people are sick of alabama. and the SEC in general. but no other conference is currently even close to the SEC in talent from top to bottom.
It’s the metrics smitty, they don’t lie.
If you want to give bama a pass for losing by 14 to a shitty 4 win fla st team in week one due to a qb making their first start, then you have to give ND a pass for losing their first 2 games to the #7 and 10 teams by a total of 4 points by a freshman qb making his first starts. All the metrics have ND higher than every team in the sec. What makes the sec so good? That they are all ranked to start the season?

Miami: SAG 6, SP+ 9, FPI 7, GC 6
Notre Dame: SAG 2, SP+ 5, FPI 3, GC 5
Alabama: SAG 7, SP+ 12, FPI 6, GC 7
Georgia: SAG 8, SP+ 6, FPI 8, GC 11
Oklahoma: SAG 13, SP+ 13, FPI 16, GC 9
Ole Miss: SAG 10, SP+ 7, FPI 12, GC 10
Texas A&M: SAG 9, SP+ 8, FPI 10, GC 8
 

rob22278

Registered
Forum Member
Sep 9, 2006
100
58
28
New Orleans
i'm always down for a good debate. :)

obviously i respect the hell out of jord, but i find it hard to believe he honestly thinks alabama doesn't belong in the playoff. maybe he's a ND fan? or there's some inherent bias? i understand why people are sick of alabama. and the SEC in general. but no other conference is currently even close to the SEC in talent from top to bottom.
It’s the metrics smitty, they don’t lie.
If you want to give bama a pass for losing by 14 to a shitty 4 win fla st team in week one due to a qb making their first start, then you have to give ND a pass for losing their first 2 games to the #7 and 10 teams by a total of 4 points by a freshman qb making his first starts. All the metrics have ND higher than every team in the sec. What makes the sec so good? That they are all ranked to start the season?
 

Smitty

Registered User
Forum Member
Jan 5, 2005
7,554
2,124
113
Upstate NY
If you want to give bama a pass for losing by 14 to a shitty 4 win fla st team in week one due to a qb making their first start, then you have to give ND a pass for losing their first 2 games to the #7 and 10 teams by a total of 4 points by a freshman qb making his first starts.
um, i did. see post #4 https://www.madjacksports.com/forum/threads/notre-dame-get-off-your-soap-box.6986282/

It’s the metrics smitty, they don’t lie.
If you want to give bama a pass for losing by 14 to a shitty 4 win fla st team in week one due to a qb making their first start, then you have to give ND a pass for losing their first 2 games to the #7 and 10 teams by a total of 4 points by a freshman qb making his first starts. All the metrics have ND higher than every team in the sec. What makes the sec so good? That they are all ranked to start the season?

Miami: SAG 6, SP+ 9, FPI 7, GC 6
Notre Dame: SAG 2, SP+ 5, FPI 3, GC 5
Alabama: SAG 7, SP+ 12, FPI 6, GC 7
Georgia: SAG 8, SP+ 6, FPI 8, GC 11
Oklahoma: SAG 13, SP+ 13, FPI 16, GC 9
Ole Miss: SAG 10, SP+ 7, FPI 12, GC 10
Texas A&M: SAG 9, SP+ 8, FPI 10, GC 8

and "the metrics"???? seriously? c'mon, you're joking, right? the metrics in college football are practically worthless. what is that, Sagarin? that has ND as the #2 team in the country? with THAT schedule? the computers give them credit for beating a bunch of tomato cans. it's really difficult to take anything seriously that has ND as the #2 team in the country.

please tell me which conference is better than the SEC. top to bottom.

ND and Alabama finished the regular season with identical records. Are you going to tell me ND had a tougher schedule than Alabama? Go ahead. Look at their schedules. Hell, you like Sagarin? Check this out.

1765511864026.png

ND was 2-2 against the top 30 teams in the country. Alabama was 7-2. 7-2!!

OMG, Sagarin is hilarious. They have Penn State ranked as the #14 team in the country!! FPI has them as #17!

Metrics.
 

rob22278

Registered
Forum Member
Sep 9, 2006
100
58
28
New Orleans
um, i did. see post #4 https://www.madjacksports.com/forum/threads/notre-dame-get-off-your-soap-box.6986282/



and "the metrics"???? seriously? c'mon, you're joking, right? the metrics in college football are practically worthless. what is that, Sagarin? that has ND as the #2 team in the country? with THAT schedule? the computers give them credit for beating a bunch of tomato cans. it's really difficult to take anything seriously that has ND as the #2 team in the country.

please tell me which conference is better than the SEC. top to bottom.

ND and Alabama finished the regular season with identical records. Are you going to tell me ND had a tougher schedule than Alabama? Go ahead. Look at their schedules. Hell, you like Sagarin? Check this out.

View attachment 6971946

ND was 2-2 against the top 30 teams in the country. Alabama was 7-2. 7-2!!

OMG, Sagarin is hilarious. They have Penn State ranked as the #14 team in the country!! FPI has them as #17!

Metrics.
Um, vegas uses metrics.
I guess they’re fucking stupid.
 
Bet on MyBookie
Top