2005 ncaa tournament: thursday round one .....

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deacs had a world of trouble against the southern conference two years ago in tampa when east tennessee state took them to the wire before losing 76-73. would like to think prosser and company will have learned their lesson, but im not real sure. wake has really been lame in the first round of the dance under skip. won 79-78 over #13 seed vcu last year, won 76-73 over #15 seed etsu in '03, and won 83-74 over #10 seed pepperdine in '02. still think deacs win it all, but dont like the way they go through the motions in the first round. wouldnt be a huge surprise to see utc keep this one around 10 or 12.

creighton
west virginia

talk about a matchup of two teams that shoot way, way too many 3s. west virginia has attempted 1716 field goals this year. 795 of 'em have been from behind the arc (46.3%). creighton has attempted 1770 field goals this year, and 687 of 'em have been from behind the arc (38.8%). just for some perspective, a normal % is somewhere around 28%-34%. wvu has attempted more 3s than free throws this year -- 795 against just 517. creighton's split is 687 against 647. to some, this might be pointless esoterica. but i think this game is impossible to cap for the reasons above. neither team gets the ball inside. neither team draws fouls and gets to the line consistently. and both teams run hot and cold from behind the arc. creighton is a little more balanced, but thats just relatively speaking because they are awfully perimeter-oriented themselves. this is truly a coinflip game where it will come down to who is knocking down their 3s. both teams played outstanding basketball in their respective conference tourneys. gut feeling says creighton will win this one.

uw-milwaukee
alabama

love this draw for the panthers and fully expect them to win outright. not gonna try to twist the numbers and make alabama out to be a terrible team -- theyre not. but i just dont think the average fan realizes how good uwm is. they completely outclassed everyone in the horizon league this season but their narrow escape against detroit in the conference championship game is (unfortunately) what sticks in a lot of minds. thats fine with me. that struggle was expected because perry watson's teams are always tough mf'ers and never an easy out in the horizon tourney. this much i know -- uwm is friggin good. and theyre every bit as good as alabama on a neutral floor. they are one of the few midmajors that can match the size, athleticism, and shooting of the power conferences. bama's earnest shelton has knocked down 40% of his 3s and 89 overall. milwaukee can match that with ed mccants at 37% and 94 overall. panthers take care of the ball well, and they can compete on the glass. they could be playing this game on any neutral court and id be comfortable backing milwaukee. but here's something that i think should not be overlooked: a lot of these venues are foreign to both teams before tipoff. but milwaukee is very familiar with this arena, as they play here every season against cleveland state and were just here a few weeks ago. uwm should be familiar with the backdrop, the lighting, the tightness of the rims, and all that kind of stuff. will that be the deciding factor in the game? of course not. but at this time of year, every advantage helps, especially when it can level the playing field for the underdog. the panthers have a comfort level in the city and its very likely that the casual fan will be pulling for the horizon league team since the game is being played in a horizon league arena. this one is my strongest play of the first round.

pennsylvania
boston college

tough game to figure here. not in a hurry to go against a quaker team that has won 16 of its last 17. but almost get the feeling that boston college is gonna be one of those teams playing with a chip on its shoulder. eagles did stumble down the stretch (although id be more inclined to just say they regressed to where they should have been throughout the year) but they are still a solid team that can string together some wins. penn isnt a particularly great shooting team and i think the boston college zone will bother them. not going anywhere near this one, but think the eagles will take care of business here and not let the dog hang around long enough to think it can win.

working on the rest. will post more later.
but played milwaukee very big. and have futures all over the place on wake forest at various prices from 7/1 to 10/1 from before the year started and at various stages of the season.
 
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West Virginia starting guard Mike Gansey is CSU guard Steve Gansey's brother and a graduate of Olmsted Falls High School in Cuyahoga County. I'm guessing he has had some opportunities to get in this gym to play in the off-season. Not a great advantage, but another reason for me to stay off this game.
 

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gansey's improvement since high school is really impressive. gotta give him credit. he was a decent shooter in HS but his overall play really blossomed at st.bonny and now at wvu. think the younger one has a long way to go toward being as good as big brother. btw- not sure if spang mentioned anything to ya but we were up in the club level between the buffalo/toledo and wmu/akron game trying to catch up with you. no luck though. you were probably in the can or grabbin a cold one, lol. we tried! enjoy the tourney bud. best of luck
 

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fairleigh dickinson
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almost pointless to write anything up about the 1/16 games. to me, theyre coinflips that ultimately come down to whether or not the chalk wants to run it up or not. i will say, however, that i think this is the most formidable group of #16s in quite some time. montana is halfway decent and fairleigh isnt a complete scrub team either. knights actually had a string of solid efforts in december against pepperdine, buffalo, california, and arizona state. still gonna be up to illinois to name the score. if i had to pick one #16 seed to cover the number i think this would be the one. but im certainly not touching it.

nevada
texas

not a whole lot to offer on this one aside from saying that i think nevada is grossly overrated. fazekas is a stud and can really play, but nobody else on that team impresses me. theyre susceptible to long scoring droughts and theyre also a godawful 3pt shooting team. with the way the game is played today, its amazing that nevada is as good as they are considering they shoot a dismal 27% from 3pt land. to be fair, nevada offsets that pathetic shooting with solid defense and good rebounding and size on the interior. i just look at nevada and see a team that has to play almost a perfect game to win here. horns are jekly and hyde but think they have enough to take this game.

eastern kentucky
kentucky

intriguing matchup but not interested in throwin any money on it. both teams have a lot of the same personel from last season and kentucky dropped 100+ on 'em and shot almost 65% from the field. wildcats always seem to jam me one way or the other. outside of sparks, they really struggle to knock down jump shots. obviously they hammer the shit out of you inside, but if eku can limit the amount of inside damage, i think they can stay inside the number. my only hesitation is that i dont think kentucky will call the dogs off if they get up by 15 or 20. i dont think it will matter one bit that ford is part of the kentucky family. doubt tubby could give two shits about guys who played under pitino and i think the cats (assuming they got up big) would want to hammer eku and make their bluegrass hegemony known. gun to my head, id play eku for the first half. kentucky has a tendency to start slow sometimes and if eku doesnt cover the 1h, i dont see them covering the 2h or game.

iowa
cincinnati

relatively short line for the cats, but im not gonna overthink this one. no secret that cincy has had their share of tourney struggles but (call me crazy) i think cincy can get to the elite 8 this year. theyre the #1 defensive team in the country and they would match up well with kentucky in round 2 and force the wildcats to generate offense from the perimeter. of course, they would have to take care of business in round one first, and i think they can do it. both teams can really run hot and cold, but i think this is a good draw for UC. nobody really expects a whole lot from them and many are quick to put the choker label on huggins guys. ill go to war with huggy bear on my side and hope for the best. gonna play cincinnati here as my only play from the indianapolis set of games.
 

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"...make their bluegrass hegemony known"

OK, this has got to be the first time in history a capper has used the term "hegemony". You may have to have a link to dictionary.com in your signature so degenerates like me can easily look that term up. :)

Sorry I missed you guys at the tourney. It was a blast, until the last 15 minutes of the championship game.
 

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fairleigh dickinson
illinois

almost pointless to write anything up about the 1/16 games. to me, theyre coinflips that ultimately come down to whether or not the chalk wants to run it up or not. i will say, however, that i think this is the most formidable group of #16s in quite some time. montana is halfway decent and fairleigh isnt a complete scrub team either. knights actually had a string of solid efforts in december against pepperdine, buffalo, california, and arizona state. still gonna be up to illinois to name the score. if i had to pick one #16 seed to cover the number i think this would be the one. but im certainly not touching it.

nevada
texas

not a whole lot to offer on this one aside from saying that i think nevada is grossly overrated. fazekas is a stud and can really play, but nobody else on that team impresses me. theyre susceptible to long scoring droughts and theyre also a godawful 3pt shooting team. with the way the game is played today, its amazing that nevada is as good as they are considering they shoot a dismal 27% from 3pt land. to be fair, nevada offsets that pathetic shooting with solid defense and good rebounding and size on the interior. i just look at nevada and see a team that has to play almost a perfect game to win here. horns are jekly and hyde but think they have enough to take this game.

eastern kentucky
kentucky

intriguing matchup but not interested in throwin any money on it. both teams have a lot of the same personel from last season and kentucky dropped 100+ on 'em and shot almost 65% from the field. wildcats always seem to jam me one way or the other. outside of sparks, they really struggle to knock down jump shots. obviously they hammer the shit out of you inside, but if eku can limit the amount of inside damage, i think they can stay inside the number. my only hesitation is that i dont think kentucky will call the dogs off if they get up by 15 or 20. i dont think it will matter one bit that ford is part of the kentucky family. doubt tubby could give two shits about guys who played under pitino and i think the cats (assuming they got up big) would want to hammer eku and make their bluegrass hegemony known. gun to my head, id play eku for the first half. kentucky has a tendency to start slow sometimes and if eku doesnt cover the 1h, i dont see them covering the 2h or game.

iowa
cincinnati

relatively short line for the cats, but im not gonna overthink this one. no secret that cincy has had their share of tourney struggles but (call me crazy) i think cincy can get to the elite 8 this year. theyre the #1 defensive team in the country and they would match up well with kentucky in round 2 and force the wildcats to generate offense from the perimeter. of course, they would have to take care of business in round one first, and i think they can do it. both teams can really run hot and cold, but i think this is a good draw for UC. nobody really expects a whole lot from them and many are quick to put the choker label on huggins guys. ill go to war with huggy bear on my side and hope for the best. gonna play cincinnati here as my only play from the indianapolis set of games.


You and your Thuggins infatuation. I bet you are a closet criminal justice major a mere 74 hours shy of a degree
 

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Sorry I missed you guys at the tourney. It was a blast, until the last 15 minutes of the championship game.

truer words have never been spoken. what a damn collapse.

sun tzu --- :mj07: :mj07: i couldnt go against huggins two years in a row, right? went big on east tennessee state in last years first round. that had upset written all over it. but actually think that cincy can make a little run this year. low expectations and a good defense make it possible. then again, this is cincy were talking about so who knows.
 

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Gman greatly appreciate your write ups man.

Gman I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the many MAC teams in tomorrows NIT tourney.

Drexel/Buffalo

TCU/Miami

Kent State/Western Kentucky

TYhanks Gman
 

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while drexel is no prize, i wish you could have seen the crushed, dejected looks on the faces of the buffalo fans as they were walking out of gund arena on saturday night. i mean they were absolutely stunned. they all made the 4 hour drive on thursday, friday, and saturday and were less than 1 second away from an ncaa tourney berth before getting their collective heart ripped out by leon williams and ohio university. somehow, i just cant see an enthusiastic turnout by the buffalo fans for this NIT game. and i have to wonder about the mental state of the buffalo players. with 15:00 to go in that mac title game and buffalo up 19, their fans were rowdy as hell. the team was playing inspired ball. they were tasting the ncaa tourney...... and then they just folded. i think it would take major balls to lay those points with buffalo tomorrow. theyre a terrific team but its gonna take a big time coaching effort by witherspoon to get his team focused for this NIT game, especially since drexel is a less than inspiring opponent.
im not sure if im going to play drexel, but i know for sure that i wont be playing buffalo. i think the over might be the best bet there because i dont see buffalo coming out with any defensive intensity at all.

im not real big on NIT chalk but i think miami will dominate tcu in that one. redhawks discipline and halfcourt sets will pick tcu apart. frogs not disciplined enough to stay in that game.

no clue what to think on kent state. their loss to ohio was puzzling. flashes just sat on the perimeter and jacked 3s all night. ohio played a zone and kent did nothing to attack it. they just played catch and then someone would take a 3pter. when kent is playing well, they are arguably the best team in the mac. but when they go into their 'passive mode' where they just sit on the perimeter and shoot jumpers, they become incredibly mediocre. tough game to figure out. it all depends which kent team shows.

hopefully that helped in some way.
 

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Gman thanks again.

One thought I would like to share.

I was able to see the Buffalo/Ohio game on ESPN and let me say it was a tale of 2 different halfs.
The way Buffalo was dominating Ohio in the 1st half really made me feel like they were deserving of an NCAA berth but Gman the way Buffalo got hammered on the boards and out muscled by Ohio in the 2nd half was really dissapointing.

I was telling my friends how I wish I would have seen more of this team play this year but after 25:00 of ball I saw a totally different team.
The way they stood around and weatched Ohio steal that game from them was extremely shocking to see.

Thanks again for the insight Gman
 

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great work gman, ur typing and thinking machine ...

i was wondering, what do you think of under in blue jays/WV game--if they both toss that many treys and prob will be preparing to defendi it more, and b.g. and such I could see it playing into lower than total #

?????

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gregg:

i keep on forgetting that olympic and pinnacle and all the books have already posted totals on these games. i have to admit that i was thinking the exact same thing you were about that creighton game and was waiting for a number to come out. figured it would be 130ish or so. just looked and its 134.5 right now. to me, thats far too high. half of the reason creighton is in the dance right now is because their defense has been excellent. they havent allowed more than 60 points in any of their last 5 games and havent allowed more than 68 points in a game since before valentines day. i just cannot see either team threatening 70pts. i absolutely would lean under. think we're looking at 65-61 one way or the other.
 

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FYI
UB feels they got jobbed. Everyone up here on talk radio including Reggie feel they should have gotten an at-large-whcih is of course a joke. They choked it away-deal with it-but with 3 important Seniors Reggie knows it will be awhile.
So atmosphere is not kill Drexel and St Joes.
Seems they are complaining and not focusing.
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Thanks for the info on Gansey, BGFalcon. I had no ideal he is a former alumni of Olmsted Falls. It should be another fun weekend in C-Town.

WAR - Winking Lizard
 

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A big concern forUWM is Alabama has much more size a will try to pound the ball inside. UWM was smaller than every team they played this year but this is a very athletic Alabama team. I can tell you one thing for sure is if you watch this game don't blink because they are going to run and pressure Alabama non stop. No lead will be safe in this game huge runs will be made. Total is at 141 I see both teams scoring in the 80's.
 

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They want to speed game up with their philosophy to wear Alabama which only goes 7 deep. UWM has been dow in over half their games and eventully their constant pressur,trapping and running gets to their opponents in the second half. Anyways straight from Bruce Pearls lips they want a 94 foot game up and down.
 
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